I have a lab that has green eyes and a pink nose.. he is 100% lab... i heard that i cant mate him because then his pups will come out sick.. i think that is crazy.. and i would like to know what everyones input is on this.. because he IS 100% lab.. he may just be a mix of a yellow and a chocolate lab.. do you think that i can mate him? he is a little over a year
No you should get him fixed. And his parents should be fixed too.
From the akc site Eyes--Kind, friendly eyes imparting good temperament, intelligence and alertness are a hallmark of the breed. They should be of medium size, set well apart, and neither protruding nor deep set. Eye color should be brown in black and yellow Labradors, and brown or hazel in chocolates. Black, or yellow eyes give a harsh expression and are undesirable. Small eyes, set close together or round prominent eyes are not typical of the breed. Eye rims are black in black and yellow Labradors; and brown in chocolates. Eye rims without pigmentation is a disqualification. http://www.akc.org/breeds/labrador_retriever/index.cfm
***Edited By: joce on 8/30/2005 4:55:10 PM*** Reason: i
this is a reply to STDOGZ.. first of all i am very educated with the chatactersitics and everything.. i heard this from somebody and i wanted everyones opinion.. second of all he is my sisters lab and she wanted to know.. i would appreciate it that if anyone has anything bad to say keep it to yourself.. i didnt ask for your rude comments thank you
are you trynig to tell me that if the color of his eyes are off then he should be neutred because his personality might be harsh or aggressive.. if that is what your saying and correct me if i am wrong.. i think that that is insanee
I am saying he is badly bred,not of standered adn YES he should be neutered. If you know so much about the breed why come here asking us. Its ok to admitt that you don't know abuot it. There are many labs looking for homes that are of standered,unstandered ones dont need bred.
Thats not insane its the right thing to do.
And no one said anything rude.
***Edited By: joce on 8/30/2005 5:02:47 PM*** Reason: t
first of all LOL you are funny.. i know very much about the breed.. just because i am asking a question doesnt mean i dont know anything.. i should have never asked anything.. most of the people her are very critizising LIKE YOU.. it is insane.. some of you people exaggerate a lil too much with neutering.. please dont answer back.. i dont like people like you.. your just gross.. the way you answer a question gets someone very upset.. just so you know.. if you dont have something nice to say dont say it.. i asked for an opinion thats all
I'm going to try and play peacemaker here, so please bear with me.
Is he AKC registered? If not, any litter he produces will not be registered AKC. If it is a limited registration, no puppies will be registerable. He may be 100% Labrador. That doesn't mean he is of AKC Standard. AKC Standard is what the conformation shows use as a basis for judging. The standard shows hazel eyes, but not green. Green is an eye color that would not be allowed in show and an undesirable trait to be passed on genetically to his puppies or their puppies.
The whole point of breeding (mating) is to produce a better quality (closer to the standard) puppy then the prior generation. To improve the good points and try to remove the undesirables. Those dogs and bitches with undesirable traits should be neutered or spayed to prevent passing those traits on.
If your sister has her Labs pedigree, you can look at his parents, grandparents and great grandparents. A conformation champion will have Ch. in front of their registration name and their name will be in red. Champions in the bloodline show that his ancestors met the standard when they were shown and achieved Champion status.
Can you mate him? Yes. Should you mate him? NO. Not if he has undesirable traits. It serves no purpose. If he's neutered, he won't care about breeding. I'm sure he is a lovely dog. I'm sure everybody says how beautiful he is. I'm sure everybody loves him and he loves everybody, but not every dog is meant to father puppies.
Wow. Ok breed your dog that I am sure is your sisters. its fine that it doesn't meeet the standered because its what you want to do.
Is that what you wanted to hear?!
You are the reason that so many of these breeds have gone down hill.
No one,especially me,said anyhting rude to you. I didn't even go into what else might be wrong with your dog,I quoted form tha akc site about what was wrong with your dog. Wasn't even my opinion! You have some serioues problems to be coming to a forum and acting like this.
It sounds like the lab is what's called a 'dudley'. Basically it means that the dog has no black pigment. This is basically a yellow lab with the chocolate dilution gene so all the points on the lab show up in browns/livers instead of black. Any dog with the coloration, while it can be a great dog.. green eyes are abnormal in dogs of all breeds and may be indicative of potential vision problems.
EIther way, he is far from fitting the breed standard for labrador retreivers, and thus should not be bred. Labrador retrievers are insanely popular right now. There is no point in breeding this dog that haas so many obvious physical faults that are not desirable in the breed over all.
Labs are VERY popular right now which really isn't a good thing for the breed.
The labs I see now have bad temperaments, most don't look anything like a pure lab, etc. (why, because everyone is breeding their lab for several reasons...they're popular so they want to make money or they're just cute or they want another puppy like their dog or everyone loves my dog). I've seen more Labs with a bad temperament in my neighborhood alone than in any other breed that I've come accross with. [I'm not saying your/sister's dog has a bad temperament but it's just an example of what happens when you don't follow the breed standard and you breed any dog without looking at the true important aspects first]
In my newspaper everyday (this is in Idaho, I'm in Boise) there are AT LEAST 17 different ads for Labs most are pure and some are mix. For the second most popular breed (Golden Retriever) there are usually 3 ads. I'm not saying that there aren't poorly bred Goldens because there are, there is in EVERY breed because some people have the same reasoning to breed their dog as I mentioned before.
The same thing is happening to the Lab as it did to the Dalmation when the movie 101 Dalmations came out. I remember several years ago when the movie came out and I went to the humane society and saw all the Dalmations. Now all I see is Labs.
There are many in shelters and rescues too. Just look at the Idaho Humane Society (which is the biggest humane society in our state). Count how many Labs and Lab mixes there are. These aren't even all of their dogs, just a select few they put on their website every week. http://www.idahohumanesociety.org (I just counted 21 lab and lab mixes)
I'm really not trying to bash you or be mean just trying to help you and your sister understand why it's so important to follow the breed standard and to be responsible.
***Edited By: lovekelsey on 8/30/2005 8:48:44 PM*** Reason: add
May I comment here? I raised quality AKC Labrador Retrievers for over 24 years and I do not believe that you should breed a yellow lab with either green eyes nor a pink nose.
Neither the green eyes nor the pink nose are breed standards for AKC. In fact, "A thoroughly pink nose or one lacking in any pigment" is a disqualification in Labs. You cannot show this dog and there is no way that you should use a dog such as that for breeding.
The eyes on a yellow Lab should be brown, no other color is acceptable by AKC.
If you know so much about Labs, than you must already realize that your Lab is NOT up to standards and should be neutered. Don't even consider using it for breeding, since the main reason for breeding is to improve the breed, not to diminish it.
Neuter your dog and enjoy him to the fullest. Labs are a wonderful breed. Try training him in agility, they are awesome at that and it would be in your best interests to put your energy into something other than breeding an inferior animal.