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Giant maso mastiff ~Another OLD topic resurrected.
anyone else heard of it?
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Posted: 8:11:10 PM 9/1/2005
I was looking up Old English Mastiffs.The breeder I was looking at also bred Giant maso mastiffs.They seem really great! !has anyone else heard of this breed?Do you guys think they would be a good breeder to get a pup from?Thanks

***Edited By: Icyhound on 9/1/2005 8:37:15 PM***
Reason: Pretty sure the website adds as advertising.
Posted: 8:33:28 PM 9/1/2005
Great, just what this world needs. Another dysplastic mastiff cross. The site, as far as I could see, doesn't explain what these dogs are mixed with. They do explain though, that these dogs are quite a bit larger than English Mastiffs. I can tell you right now that these dogs will be very dysplastic. This breeder seems to be doing nothing but breeding over-sized English Mastiffs.

Then they claim that the price is great, that it's only HALF of what they charge for a purebred Mastiff. I wonder why? IT'S A GIANT MUTT! It will not live longer than a normal English Mastiff, why would it? It's bigger, more massive, no doubt MORE dysplastic. They only guarantee the dogs hips until 5 years old. Do you want a dog with crippling hip dysplasia at 5 years old?

The general opinion this breeder holds on 'designer dogs' is appauling. No one is going to create 'Super Mutt'. I wonder if anyone realizes how many giant mastiffs turn up in shelters and rescues across the country? Honestly, dogs have been mixing species without our help for ages. Yet, we act like we're god when we come up with a 'new' mix that has no doubt already been duplicated thousands of times.

I give this breeder, and the Maso Mastiff, a big thumbs down.
Posted: 8:37:51 PM 9/1/2005
i wouldnt buy from them. for at least one reason, other then they breed mastadoodles. their health guarantee is based on the new owner feeding the pup a supplement for the rest oif its life. if you dont feed this supplement everyday for the dogs life and it comes down with a problem then you are SOL. like they think this supplement is the end all to all canine genetic health problems. if that were the case no one would have unhealthy dogs. i dont buy it. sorry.
Posted: 8:40:23 PM 9/1/2005
I didn't even see the part about the 'mastadoodles'. Do yourself a favor and stay away from this BACKYARD BREEDER.
Posted: 9:12:33 PM 9/1/2005
I have actually spoke to a kennel that raises the Maso Mastiff's and they are indeed a mutt. They are Mastiff's mixed with Cane Corsos.
Posted: 6:08:07 PM 9/2/2005
Ugh. That proves it. I feel that AT LEAST 80% of Canes out there are unsound, both physically and mentally.

Posted: 7:28:49 PM 9/2/2005
Could you please tell me what about the Corso's makes you feel that way? They as a whole are an extremely confident, level headed dog mentally and as far as physically they are taking the weighting pulling compititions, irondog compititions and shultzhund compititions by storm. There are several being used for law enforcement work and search and rescue work. They are a very obidenient and easy to train dog. No to mention they are great with kids. So I find your statment about them to be untrue.

***Edited By: cschimizzi on 9/2/2005 7:34:26 PM***
Reason: add
Posted: 10:45:37 PM 9/2/2005
Yes, the Corso is SUPPOSED to be a level headed, even tempered dogs. But keep in mind about WHO is doing most of the Cane Corso breeding in the U.S. Puppymills, backyard breeders, people like this have caused this breed to go down the drain. The breed isn't alone. American Pit Bull Terriers, Bullmastiffs, and Rottweilers are also suffering.

Working in dog rescue, I see Cane's a lot. The ones that aren't aggressive are incredibly dysplastic.


If I ever found a sound, well-mannered Cane, I wouldn't hesitate to adopt it. They CAN BE good dogs, but they have to have a good breeding behind them.
Posted: 11:04:06 PM 9/2/2005
I agree with what you say but I find that to be true with EVERY BREED out there not just the ones you mentioned. I have seen some horrible labs, gsd, irish setter and so on. I find that most of your toy and smaller breeds are effected the most with bad breeding and gentic defects. With ANY breed you have to do your homework and find good responible breeders. Every breed out here is suffering due to byb's and puppymills. I personally have seen several Corso and thank god all of my dealings with them have came from great breeders with wonderful dogs and wonderful bloodlines with all genetic testing being performed. The only "ill" corso I have ever seen was the first one I ever adopted and he was an import straight from Italy. Yes he was dysplastic and yes he had lots of issues. Just to name one he suffered terribly from seperation anxiety. I have a 16 month old female that so far is nothing but perfect. She is the perfect picture of health and very level headed. I also had a male that I had to send back due to entropian but that is nothing that couldn't be fixed. He was neutered and placed in a pet home so that it couldn't be passed along. So again I say with any breed there are going to be people that don't do right by them and that is very sad!!!

***Edited By: cschimizzi on 9/2/2005 11:06:28 PM***
Reason: added
Posted: 11:10:15 PM 9/2/2005
Agreed. While I love mastiffs, they aren't the breed for me :) I'm a Pit bull-type person.

The reason I named the breeds I did is that they seem to have the MOST structural problems. 'Pit bulls' are being bred by novices to look like a keg on sticks. Rottweilers, already having their time as the 'fad breed', are almost comepletely ruined. Mastiffs have always been somewhat dysplastic, it's a common occurance in massive breeds.

The difference between a temperamentally unsound Chihuahua and an unsound, say, mastiff is this: When BSL comes rolling around, legislators ARE NOT going to point fingers at the Chihuahua, they will aim all their efforts in banning bull breeds, mastiffs, and working dogs. . . Among others.
Posted: 11:22:28 PM 9/2/2005
Agreed.....I understand completely with what your saying. Not only do I share my home with my Corso. I also have Rottweilers and a Pit so I know where you coming from.
Posted: 9:31:50 AM 9/20/2006
I have a giant maso that I purchased from the breeder you are referring to. He is the nicest dog I have ever had, perfectly healthy and submissive. He looks like a pure breed mastiff, and was potty trained when he came to me from the breeder at 6 weeks old. This new breed has been around for 6 years, I am completely satisfied with my dog and wouldn't trade him for the world.
Posted: 11:49:55 AM 9/20/2006
>>He looks like a pure breed mastiff, and was potty trained when he came to me from the breeder at 6 weeks old. This new breed has been around for 6 years, I am completely satisfied with my dog and wouldn't trade him for the world. <<

SIX WEEKS OLD??? he was WAY too young.

If he looks like a purebred why didin't you just get a QAULITY dog? a purebred mastiff? Or go to the shelter and rescue.

It's not a breed, it's a mutt.
Posted: 2:45:08 PM 9/20/2006
Hi There,

I have a Giant Maso Mastiff. Her name is Molly and she is 18 months old. She is AWESOME! We did get her from a breeder in Virginia. I, personally, have never met a dog who was more laid back and gentle in my life. She weighs 127 pounds and I expect she'll top off at 140 pounds (so much for them supposedly being so much bigger than the Old English Mastiff). Everyone that has met her says she's the best dog they have ever been around and they would LOVE to get "another Molly". She is wonderful around the elderly and especially with small children. She is the love of my life and I thank God every day for her. I can guarantee you that anyone out there that has a Giant Maso Mastiff will tell you the same thing. I would absolutely recommend (and often do) having a Giant Maso Mastiff!!!

By the way, the vet is thrilled with her. She is in excellent health.

Also, I understand that the Cane Corso is also in the Mastiff family, so I'm confused why people keep saying that she's not all Mastiff.

***Edited By: Pamela on 9/20/2006 2:53:09 PM***
Reason: To add something.
Posted: 3:09:55 PM 9/20/2006
They are in the group called Mollosians.

Mollosian Breeds are Rottweiler, Hovawart, Boxer, English Bulldog, Shar Pei, Morrocan Bulldogs, Presa Canario, Cane Corso, Mastiff (is a breed not a group), Bull Mastiff, Bordeaux Dog, Neapolitan Mastiff, Dogo Argentino, Fila Brasileiro, Tosa Inu, Great Dane, Saint Bernard, Caucasian Sheepdogs, Spanish Mastiff, Newfoundland, Great Pyrenees, Leonberger, Anatolian Shepherd, Tibetan Mastiff, and Bernese Mountain Dogs.

I do alot of research on dogs, although I did have to look up a few breeds lol
Posted: 4:08:23 PM 9/20/2006
Everytime this topic comes up, I just want to throw up! I love mastiffs, and the intentional production of these mutts is a disgrace to the mastiff breed.
Posted: 10:38:43 PM 9/20/2006
Mods, I thought cockerlover name was already taken by the senior cockerlover?
Just curious
Majorlover
Posted: 10:40:26 PM 9/20/2006
Majorlover -- check the date! This thread was started a long time ago!
Posted: 10:43:09 PM 9/20/2006
I didnt catch that, but that was still her sign in
Majorlover
Posted: 10:53:07 PM 9/20/2006
I think it means she was a junior member when she posted this back then.
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