i have been reading some interesting discussions about this topic. i have heard ideas ranging anywhere from leveling it, building a stronger levee system and allowing only commercial properties build there so if this should happen again there will be minimal lives lost, to of course rebuilding it in its entirety....and all arguments in between.
i have heard blame put on the fact that had the levee been updated and repaired like the governor of NO has been asking for this would not have happened. i also heard arguments that fixing the levee wasn't fought for hard enough.
i would like to see if we can have some opinions expressed, facts presented etc....without a holy war developing.
my personal thoughts.....i do not know enough technical information to know whether there is a levee system that would be able to withstand a hurricane of that magnitude again. though i have heard the netherlands do have a pretty good one in their country. if there is no guarantee that this would not happen again, i would vote for not rebuilding it back in to a residential area. level it, put a state park in there, something other then residences.
more thoughts ?............
also if anyone wants to express their views on the governments handling of this disaster feel free also.
***Edited By: Scout1 on 9/6/2005 7:26:30 PM*** Reason: add
I believe New Orleans should be built back the way it was, only stronger. The place is full of history and that shouldn't be just left behind for commecialism or anything else. I visited there once and I just loved it. I understand the devastation a hurricane causes, and this one was obviously one of the worst, but come back from it. Stronger, most definitely, but do come back from it. Just my opinion....
This whole thing is such a mess. I honestly cannot see rebuilding something that was built below sea level. I just think these people have been through enough and I would like to see them start over elsewhere. It was a fantastic place, but they knew the big one was coming.
I don't know anything about building stronger levys, but its water and water has lots of power and when it wants to be some place I don't see how some wall is going to stop it.
The government certainly didn't move fast enough to help these people. But I will say those people didn't help themselves. Instead of trying to work together, they went nuts and turned against each other.
What was that in the Super Dome? Come on! There was no reason for all of that. Those people should have been helping one another instead of killing, raping, etc.
I don't totally blame the government, but they certainly needed to move faster.
In part Yes... the original city save... the oldest area... move the rest and rebuild in a safer area.. if land is available...
Since Insurance and Government Money will In most part be used to rebuild ... rebuild in a Higher land area.
Being a Owner of Home Construction Company... From what I see it's too much damage to go in and drain the water and try to rehab what is left. toxic water damage, mold... on and on... the cost to Rehab is way more than to build a New Structure....
Plus the Money to build a better Barrier to keep storm waters back... and better water pumps...
***Edited By: IVYdragonn on 9/6/2005 10:18:49 PM*** Reason: crt
I think they should rebuild. think of it as its happened once in how many years? Yet people in flood plains rebuild when they get flooded soemthimes every year. Thats a little pointless. As long as the levy is strong I say they should go for it.
I must say to rebuild would be the american way. However most of us lose the fact that mother nature is unpredictable and her damage is unmeasurable. It was built hundreds of years ago, however to build a dwelling "below sea level" has to have serious consequences, as we witnessed many years later. To rebuild after terrorist is one, but to rebuild after something of this catagory? Its a question that will go on for years to come. I think its a wake up call. God bless all that it has encountered. I for one would not want others to see such destruction happen even long after I am gone. Just my 2 cents. It will be a long time before that is considered, look at the Twin towers they cant even come up with a plan, and thats 2 buildings, not an Entire city.
I think people don't want to lose the $$ they have invested in thier property they own there, but I don't care. I think it is moronic to rebuild it there. I think if insurance companies pay someone to re-build there this time, they should never have to pay out to them again. If you want to say there, I shouldn't have to pay for it with my premiums. I don't live underneath Mt. St. Helens, they shouldn't live there. Bummer I always wanted to go to Marti Gras.
i think if it is rebuilt build it differently. like above, a park nearer the ocean or something, it seems insane to build a city below sea level right on a coast in the paths of where hurricanes would likely go.
riley i think that is one of the problems they are facing. i dont think anyone could be prepared for a cat 5 hurricane, and there is no levee system that could withstand the force of one.
i think it is sad but i think it is the people who made new orleans what it was, not the actual city.
another one of the things to consider is what the toxicity levels will be when all is done. people have already contracted viruses from this, imagine what will breed and cause problems in the future. its like a toxic waste dump.
supamod you just joined today. What do you know about who follows the rules and doesn't? You must be someone who was banned from here - troll.
Oh I agree - I just mean if they are going to rebuild they should do better for the people. The city should have been better prepared for the hurricane by means of having extra food and water, backup generators, and busses should have evacuated people without cars.
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 9/6/2005 10:49:18 PM*** Reason: add
Well Riley- It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that since I only joined today and I obviously know how some get away with following the rules and some do not, that I am a member that was banned.
Suprmod...Not to start something, but if you were BANNED then you must NOT have followed the rules at some point, so you are a hipocrite for pointing it out to others. Don't like the way the thread is going, don't reply.
I think the question you pose scout is one that we've all asked ourselves. I for one have wondered how a city that was built below sea level has survived all these years without this ever happening. I feel bad for everyone who has lost loved ones, belongings, pets in this whole ordeal. I don't think I would be able to go back there after all thats happened if I had experienced what they have. I don't know anything about building levees or what not, but I think if they are going to rebuild they need to be careful to have a plan that will look out for the longterm future, something that will make the city stronger so they will be more prepared next time. Because it will happen again, whether its in our life time or hundreds of years later. Its just how it is when it comes to mother nature. You can't plan when and where she will strike. If there is a way for them to build it stronger I say go for it. If not, then maybe its time for those people to look elsewhere. It would just be a shame for such a beautiful and historic place to be wiped off the place of the planet.
3/4 of the population of New Orleans is NOT on welfare, and there are no 20-story projects. In fact, there are very few 20 story buildings of any kind in New Orleans. It is a "short" city. The projects are no more than 4 stories tall, and most of them aren't that tall.
The city is terribly, terribly poor because salaries are pitiful. In New Orleans, you would make about half of whatever you are making now, and most jobs don't come with benefits. I have a master's degree and have never made more than $18,000 a year.
There are people who work full-time for the city and still live below the poverty level.