I know this is dishonest and I wouldn't recommend it under normal circumstances, but from everything I have read, you would be an excellent home, and this is stupid. Don't you have a friend or older relative that could help you out getting the puppy and then let it permanently....run away...to your house :)
I never thought of that honestly. I never imagined in a million years that I'd have to have a reponse of any kind for that of all things (not getting a dog because of having children). I'll have to mull that around a bit because...though I'm not a dishonest person and I try really hard to follow the rules...I just really don't get this one at all. It's for sure an idea though and I thank you for brainstorming with me on this! Maybe I'll have my husband call her from work just to see how she responds to a man with "no kids".
I agree places like this are stupid. All the moaning and groaning about not enough homes and they do stuff like this. Have to have a fence, can't have kids, someone has to be home all day, come on!
Seems like some of these people have power trips. And then they turn around and want hugh donations to save one seriously injured or sick dog. Prioritize, people. There are too many healthy dogs with good temperments that need homes to squander valuable resources on one badly injured or sick animal.
I just know that, since I'm not good enough to save an animal from one of those shelters, I definitely won't ever donate to one. I mean, afterall, my children might have touched the money, or toys, or food.....
The very next time I see one of their pitiful cry-for-help ads in the paper, I'll write a letter to the editor too.
Here's the temperament description from AKC's website: Temperament The Border Collie is energetic, intelligent, keen, alert, and responsive. An intense worker of great tractability, it is affectionate towards friends but may be sensibly reserved towards strangers. When approached, the Border Collie should stand its ground. It should be alert and interested, never showing fear, dullness or resentment. Any tendencies toward viciousness, nervousness or shyness are very serious faults.
Here's another good site for you: http://www.bordercollie.org/bcchar.html And from the same site, but different section: Around seven weeks old, puppies need to make a general attachment to humans as a species, not a specific attachment to a particular human. A young pup raised around small children is not a guarantee the pup will grow up being good around children. Nature is as important as nurture in determining if an individual Border Collie adores children, is intimidated by children, or tries to control children.
Some Border Collies will use submissive behavior to manipulate and control us. Others will bark and carry on like they're having a temper tantrum. Still others will use every expression and gesture you have ever found cute to get their own way. Living with a young Border Collie is like living with an intelligent toddler. It requires dedicated time and effort to survive the experience! http://www.bordercollie.org/lwbc.html
I had a border collie name Fluffy when I was a kid. Great dog. I also had a lab as a younge adult. Labs are my choice b/c even tho they shed, the hair isn't as long. However Labs chew forever, it seems. I don't remeber the collie being such a chewer. I now have a miniature schnauzer and he is awesome. Thats all the dogs I've had. Siamese cats are cool too!
<<<The very next time I see one of their pitiful cry-for-help ads in the paper, I'll write a letter to the editor too.>>> You are correct. Power trip is the word. One lady offered over 10 grand to one of the rescues I know about, but the rescue people were so closed about how they got and placed dogs that she kept her money (and she did not want a dog, she had her own--this would have been a pure donation). I get a lot of requests for pups from people who are tired of waiting for replies from any number of rescues they have contacted. There are a LOT of good homes out there--but if the rescues place all their dogs, they would have no reason to ask for money.
See, I like labrador retrievers and I really like Golden Retrievers. I had a golden when I was little and he was so much fun to play with. I remember him so fondly. I'm not so annoyed with the chewing thing...there are ways to help that...lots of proper chewing toys and redirecting to those toys! I don't know about the border collie...guess I'll have to do some research and maybe meet the parents..couldn't hurt. My favorite cat ever is the Maine Coon Cat. They are just too awesome!
shaunna...are you dead set against the shepherds? Please keep in mind that labs are like top 5 popular dogs...that sadly means they are over bred and it has changed the breed over time also...Please research...and if at all possable meet the parents...watch the temperment of them as well as the pups...with the bad experence you have had you dont want to have another...then soon your hubby and you will give up...you will see plenty of news articles of viscious labs and retrivers too...not the whole breed mind you...but poorly bred ones from puppy mills and back yard breeders who dont care how they get their breeding stock..and dont test it once they get it..good luck...its great to talk about it...and get others point of view...I'm sure it will work out just fine...
Oh No! I'm not dead set against a German Shepherd at all. I might be slightly dead set against ever buying one in Montana though. I would love to get a well-bred, wonderful German Shepherd. I just can't seem to get anyone to allow us to rescue one because I have children and I can't seem to find a breeder that's either a)close enough to drive to or b)will ship AND that I can trust to find a good dog for me. I've met one particular breeder who is so far very helpful at answering my email questions and has beautiful, adorable puppies. I'm just scared as heck to be taken advantage of or not get a good dog. It's hard because you really want to trust people, but then you read so much about how you absolutely shouldn't. Then there's the cost....everyone in Montana is STARTING at $2500 for a pet and it just goes up from there....I was told I was insane for paying that for the other one. I don't even know where the prices should really begin or anything. It's just a really confusing situation to try and sort out bad from good (breeders and dogs), to try to temperment test dogs or find a breeder who honestly knows how to do it, to try to get the dog here, etc. I'm not against a German Shepherd at all...prefer them actually. I just started looking into retrievers because those are actually raised here (montanans like to hunt) and they seem to be easier to find....of course your warning about overbreeding could explain why....ARGH! See what I mean? Too hard to find a dog here.
I have two children, boys ages 3 and 10 but I raise shar peis and shih tzus and both are great with kids. The peis are very loving with children and very protective of them. In my opinion there isn't a better breed. I do like labs but I've grown partial. Responsible breeders won't mind answering questions or even allowing you to visit the facility and they should inform you of any and all problems associated with whatever breed you choose. Either way shelters should not "choose" where the dogs go in such a manner. It's common knowledge that people who have pets live longer and are happier when they're able to care for a pet. Good luck to you...
I believe that pets are extremely healthy for people to have. Thanks for the info on the sharpeis and the shih tzus, however my husband and I are more medium to giant dog people...that's why we keep picking dogs in the German Shepherd, Golden Retriever, Labrador Retriever size range. I'd still love to know what a pyr is though...
I'm sure when pyrmom gets a chance, she will answer that question. A pyr is a Great Pyrneese (sp?). Pyrmom has her own site and it is excellent when it comes to information. They are beautiful and majestic dogs.
We've actually thought of St. Bernards and Newfoundlands because you can find them here...but I've never even seen a Great Pyrenese here before. I had a St. Bernard when I was really little and he was AWESOME! Do they have really good temperments? I'd love to hear more about them. I like bigger dogs.
Saints are big teddy bears. My brother has one female saint puppy for sale right now. They are big cuddle bugs, I think they're very cute. We had two saints while I was growing up too and I just loved them. The Great Pyraneese (sp) are very pretty dogs, they kinda remind me of the Akitas. The shar peis only get around 45-55 lbs on average but saints and great pyr and akitas' they all get pretty big. I like the temperment of a saint and the peis ofcourse. Can you tell I love dogs :) One day I'd like to have a farm so I can have lots of them. I am a realtor and would like to just spend my time with my kids and dogs so that's the goal. I hope you find the perfect pet.