Yesterday I brought Summer to PetCo for some kind of collar that would give me better control and the guy at PetCo recommended a prong collar. He fitted it on her & showed me how to use it and it seriously feels like the best thing I have done for her. She walks SOOOO much nicer now. We seen 3 squirrels this morning and she acting like she was going to take off until I tightened the leash and she just carried on walking. I can't believe I didnt do this sooner.
I was just wondering if it hurts her? I do not yank it or anything and she doesnt act uncomfortable. My friend Lisa got one for her dal/lab mix and she put it on her husband before the dog and her hubby said it didn't hurt that much.
prong collars - i had a wild rescued lab that we couldn't get under control in obedience classes and they suggested a prong collar - when i saw it i freaked out but they carefully explained to me that it really doesn't hurt them, it is actually safer than the standard choke collar and has less potential for causing neck/throat damage as you only need to put a small amount of pressure on it. the prongs are blunt. in less than 3 seconds my lab was under control. to me it is a way to get their attention - i'm a loving tender person with my pets - some need more stern methods of learning and/or getting their attention. for us it was a temporary measure as my dog learned quickly from the use of this collar to pay attention. we were able to graduate to a harness and now when we walk he stays right at my side. there will always be different opinions on any topic, but, don't feel bad about using this collar you will no doubt discover that you won't need to use it very long.
althought i never put one on myself...i have used them on several of my dogs...one shepherd was not leash trained and we got her at 2...she was a maniac...she does real nice with the collar..and when we took the schnauzers formobedience last year or so ago...the trainers recomended and fitted both with them...they pulled and were horrable in class at first...barking and being bullies...but they cooled their jets after a go round or two...they have been using the retractable leashes agin for nature walks in the field...so they are back to being maniacs...but i still have their prong collars...and i think they are more humane then yanking them around...my opinion...good choice if walking nice is a problem
I debated a long time before I used one on my small dog. The trainer said if used right they were safer than any other collar, as they don't put pressure on only one part of the neck or throat. My girl did wonderful with it right from the start. She doesn't need it any more. I slowly weened her off of it by turning the prongs away from her, than removed it altogether. I think they are great.
I've put them on my own arm many a time to prove to people and make them put them on themselves.
I like them and when used correctly most dogs can be weaned back onto a normal buckle collar. Half of the purpose of the prong collar is just to teach the dog what the leash and collar and pulling actions MEAN. Lots of dogs dont get it, they don't pay attention to their owner and they just bulldoze down becuase it is not really that uncomfrotable for them on a regular collar.
I use one too, acey. I think they are more humane than having your dog choking himself on a buckle collar for the entire walk, as opposed to one or two corrections and they walk nice.
Even though my dog is only 10 lbs, I still use it on walks. It keeps her from going bullistic when another dog or jogger passes by. Did you get one for acey, too, or just Summer?
A little hint: Praise, praise, praise, when you correct and she gets back in line, cause after a little while, they get used to the corrections and it doesn't bug them so much anymore and they start misbehaving even with the collar on. So make sure you reinforce the good behavior with praise.
***Edited By: lalayla on 9/26/2005 11:27:59 AM*** Reason: add
I just got it for Summer. Ace is easy to control, he doesn't pull very much, and when he does I am able to get him back into control. Summer, on the other hand, was driving me crazy and making me look like a lunatic on walks. Darcy's roommate is going to London on Oct. 4 for 14 days and I was going to make Darcy take Summer while his roommate is gone because she was getting on my nerves that much. But as long as I've got this I don't mind taking her outside anymore :)
How exactly are they supposed to be worn? The PetCo man told me to make sure the chain part was the part at her throat and the prongs were at the back of her neck. But, the part where you clip her leash is also on the chain part, so when I walk her it turns up and the chain part is at the back of her neck and the prongs move down to the throat.
Is this wrong? How can I prevent this? Does it mean I should remove another prong from the collar? Lotsa questions, sorry guys! :D
I am having the same problem one of my links turns up also .. I took my dog back to Petco for grooming and asked them to show me how but I am still confused. I ended up having to buy another link to make mine bigger and it was like putting a puzzle together..lol..they did say make sure it is not to tight because with this type of collar you need room....It's seems to work alright even if I am putting it on wrong...
What happens if you don't have it, it breaks, whatever - then what will you do?
---Ill buy a new one.
It's more safe to simply train your pooches IMO.
---This collar aids in training. I dont plan on using this collar forever. Have you ever trained a hound dog? Because it is not easy. Summer chases squirrels in such a focused way this collar was the last option. She is almost 2 years old. Even my aunt, who trains german shepherds, recommended this collar after seeing the way Summer walks on a regular collar. I have blisters on my left hand from her pulling on her leash so hard. The collar was the final straw.
I just started using them on Bessy and Bobby. We live on a farm and when I take these 2 out they see a cat, chicken, duck, etc. they lose it. So I have been using these collars for a week and they are doing great. It's just a training device, I would hope they will not have to use them permanently. They are so big and strong, they were practically pulling my arm off.
I use the prong collar for Koda because of his long fur. He cannot feel the corrections of other collars. He walks like a dream with it on and I hardly ever have to correct him, I use it also because Koda weighs 80+ pounds and has run me into the back of a truck before(yes, it hurt) I am not a big person and when I am walking my girls(3 and 5) I need to know that I can watch them and not have to worry about my dog pulling me. He gets excited when I get his collar out, he does not think of it as a bad thing, he thinks of it as his cue that we are going for a walk. You put the prongs on the undersicde of their neck and you can use on clip for training and the other that provides no correction. My trainer actually showed me and said she NEVER sells them to people unless they can prove to her that they know how to use it.
I only use it when I walk my dog in a really crowded environment now, like downtown on a weekend. The only problem I have with them now is that it work soooo well that sometimes I'm stuck on using it all the time, even tho Taz can walk equally well without them on in most situations.
Acey, the chain part is at the back of hte neck. It constricts like a martingale collar.
The prongs circle the neck in a horseshoe. It should be tight enough that it sits mid neck without being constricted. It should not be on the top of the neck and it should not be at the base. You want it at the muscular middle of the neck.
It should never be loose. If it is, take out prongs. It should not be tight but it should be snug.
Aceyfacey2: What happens if it breaks while you are on a walk? I have worked with several breeds of dogs and many with major issues, many with strong prey drives (including two I own) never had use for a prong in 15 years, hope I never will. Yes it's a training tool, sadly most people don't even know how to use them properly. They can also be dangerous, and I have seen the results of them being used incorrectly. I don't think they should be sold to the general public, they should only be used if used at all under the direction of a proper trainer, then again a really good trainer would need one...
Acey I don't leave home without it. All of my dogs wear them. Heidi is my biggest puller and it stops her dead. I tried the halti head thing and the anti pull harness and none of them work. I used a regular choke chain and she would about choke herself to death. I put the prong collar on her and she doesn't pull at all. They work great.