Both of my min pins Harley (13 weeks old) Bailey (19 months old) are using the bathroom ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE!!! Harley is in the process of being litterbox trained and I understand him not grasping the concept yet, I know it's gonna take some time with him, but I REALLy don't know what to do...... Bailey is supposedly trained to go outside and has a few accidents in the house. Both of them together you can't watch their every move.. they'll sit right beside me on the couch and watch t.v., I'll get up for ONE second and there will be a big puddle on the couch and on the covers. The bed is the same way.. I don't know which one is doing it... Bailey has hicked up his leg and peed on the ferret's cage, the walls, and fake flowers in a vase sitting in front of the fireplace. I have pee smell all in my clothes, even after washing them. Today one of them pooped on the computer chair and either my husband or I sat in it, but there was nothing on either one of us!?!?! Am I doomed to smell of poop and pee forever? I take Bailey outside once every hour and when we catch Harley going on the floor we tell him "bad potty" and put him in the litter box and tell him "good potty." If we catch him in time and he uses the bathroom in the litterbox I'll give him plenty praise and treats! Do any of you guys have ANY suggestions at all????? Thank you in advance!!
Oh, and also I have been crating Harley at night time to help when we are sleeping.
I'd be confused too if I were being treated like a cat.
Why cant the dogs go outside when they need to instead of giving them permission to go in the house? Litter box or paper.
Maybe you should keep them in crates if their behavior is so out of control.
Or maybe you can get one of those play pens to keep them in, instead of give them free roam of the house. You can also keep their litter box in there until "they get it."
Seems you have been around this website for a while, and youd know more of what to do to keep them under control.
I have a mini pin too, and he doesnt do any of that, infact penny and rosco all three of my dogs are house broken because they have RULES and scheduals they go out side in.
They all sleep in their crates at night, I get up and let them all outside in the AM. They know to run to the door to go out.
They come in the house and know if it isnt feeding time to head for their crate for nap time.
They wake up and go outside, then at night they come in to sleep in their crates,
Its all ruetine to us all and it keeps my house CLEAN.
Of course they get on my bed and roam my house WITH OUT ACCIDENTS.
If you cant watch them every minute then those minutes should be spent in their crates.
If you cant discapline yourself enough to discapline your dogs properly then you have to live with the pee smell.
Because their behavior will not change without YOU Showing them the RULES with confinement inside their crates only letting them out to go outside to use the bathroom, until they LEARN and know the RULES to go by, they will remain out of control because they know right now you wont do anything about it.
Once they have the same thing happen to them everyday thats what they will do everyday, like robots. Its up to you to make their day happen and what is done to control this problem without ever having to yell at them, or wonder who is doing what.
Buy two crates. Make sure it is only big enough for them to stand in. Put them in the crate at night. Let them out in the morning. If they do not do number 1 and 2 put them back in the crate and try again in 30 minutes. I would not leave them alone if I were you not even for a second. They are sneaky. I had a foster who would poop as soon as I turned my back. In the crate he went and now he is housebroken. Crate training is not mean.
peanutmypoodle, I know better, but the lack of experience with dogs hasn't given me much of a choice other than "being run over" by my dogs. You're right.. I have been around this site for a while, but I've not had Bailey too aweful long, I just adopted him and getting used to him. Harley is still very young and I'm doing the best I can with training him. I cannot let them outiside and roam around all the time.. I do not have a fenced in yard, so I have to leash them and go outside with them all the time. I'm in no way complaining, just explaining, I live in the country so there are many dogs in our neighborhood that aren't in fences or tied up, so they come in our yard often and I'm scared Bailey may try to attack them? They are mainly basset hounds.
I do need to get another crate, that is a good idea. I'm not trying to litter-train Bailey, just Harley for the moment.
***Edited By: hearts4harley on 10/14/2005 10:42:54 PM*** Reason: +
MinPins are the hardest little buggers to house train! I have two as well and what I did when I adopted the second is I put them on the exact same potty schedule, even though the older one didn't really need to go but heck he went! Don't bother with litter training, I find it just a pain, if you can start them both over from the very begining. Two crates are good, that's what I do, they are big crates mind you, I like to pile in the blankets, those pins love fleece!!!!
Hearts! It will get better, LOL! You do need two crates ASAP, put them in it, take them out to go, if they go, let them out in house, if they don't, back in the crate. Always must go before being lose in house. Also if they are going poo many times a day, consider a better food. Go easy on the treats, makes them go more. Don't leave food out all the time, feed them on a schedule, after they eat, take them out. Good Luck!!!!
I live in the city WITHOUT a yard & I have to train Beau to go outside because there is NO WAY I am going to clean up his messes in the house when he is 75lbs!!
So what the breeder suggested we do is to take him out on his leash & take him directly to his designated elimination spot & stand there & let him walk around as far as the leash will reach until he goes potty. Sometimes this may take up to 15 minutes (so the breeder says), but usually we finish up in 5 to 10 minutes. If he doesn't go, bring him in & put him in the crate & try again in about 15 to 30 minutes later & repeat until he gets it. Beau doesn't like the rain, so this is sometimes more difficult depending on how hard it is raining.
What I did was I put a bell on the door so he could let me know when he needs to go out. He has been using his bell for 2 weeks already with high success rate & he has just turned 12 weeks old on Thursday.
I live in Eastern Canada, so it has started to get colder & will get really cold before long, so I understand not wanting to take the dogs out on a leash to do their business, but I just bought a new jacket with a soft fleece lining so I can stay fairly warm.
This designated elimination spot is working out really good for Beau cause whenever I take him out for walks, he doesn't mess or pee until we get back around our house.
***Edited By: MyWeim on 10/14/2005 11:50:22 PM*** Reason: +
Thank you guys! I will go out looking for another crate this weekend and hopefully I can get this bad sit. turned into a good one. Thanks for all of the advice it helped alot! peanutmypoodle, I see no reason to get offended, your rudeness doesn't bother me in the least little bit and I see no reason to even worry about it, I know I'm a good mommy to my babies.. being inexperienced I know how determined I am to be good to them and try my best to raise them properly, teach them manners, and have them housebroken. I'm a good-hearted person, so sticks and stones.... I'll keep you guys posted on how things are going and thanks again for your advice!!! :) Laura
myweim, that is also a good idea, but I really want to stick to litter training Harley.. I know I can do it and I think it'll be well worth it in the end. Harley isn't going to get too big and we have very large litterboxes already. I may stick to taking Bailey outside depending on if he picks up on the litter training later on or not. I do take Bailey for a walk everyday because he is kinda chuncky, but he's down to 18.5lbs which is pretty good. Have any of you ever tried doggy breath mints? I bought a toothbrush and toothpaste for dogs at wal mart and brushed Bailey's teeth because they were turning yellow, but it came with beef flavored toothpaste, so obviously it did nothing for his breath lol. I was wondering if the dog breath mints were safe for dogs? And also I don't know if this has taken effect in your wal mart or not, but here they are selling dog brownies?? I thought dogs were absolutely NOT supposed to have chocolate?? What is up with that?
A little bit of chocolate is OK. I know because I gave my dog chocolate as a kid. I never knew dogs weren't supposed to have them. Mind you I did not give him a whole candy bar either. Anyway, it might not be real chocolate. Did you real the ingredients on the back?
No, I didn't read the ingredients, but I think I will next time I go to Wal-Mart just to see. I was always in such a hurry that I passed 'em right by and I'm like "huh?" Just thought it was weird, but I'll make sure to do that and let you guys know. It's a pretty good size brownie though.. like the size of a little debbie I guess you'd say.
It's probably fake chocolate. Wal-Mart also sells chocolate cookies for dogs. They looked like peanutbutter stuffed oreos to me. Looked pretty good. I too did not read the ingredients. I doubt Wal-Mart would sell food that can potentially kill a lot of pets. I doubt they want the negative publicity and the lawsuits to follow.
More than likely the dog brownies, cookies, etc. are made of carob which is safe for dogs. I can't imagine a store selling chocolate treats for dogs when there is so much public knowledge how dangerous chocolate is for dogs.
boy...2 min pins...i had 3 a year or so ago...those little buggers...althought i really loved them...they were adults when i got them..and they would Not house break...and my feeling is...the bad they learned could not be undone..they peed in their crate..we made them a big pen to put all three crates in...so they could get out and poop/pee instead of doing it in the crate...they were the worst...even the females marked like the male..they peed all over my new carpet in front room...and we put them in basement family room...they messed up that carpet too...and the stinkers peed on the furnature too...frustrating..the male if his crate was closed...no matter if he was out 3 to 4 hours earlier...he would pee right in his fuzzy bed...or even his food and water bowls that were attached to the sides...I personally dont go for the litter box deal...especially hard to do an older dog... Stay on the same schedule with both...and keep them alsways in your sight...and try the lap bands if need be...I for one cant deal with a dog who is resistant to being turned around...that isnt a good pet to me..so...do what ever you can to turn the pooch around...good luck