We're having some issues with Brandy and I need some help...please!
First, she won't stop jumping on people. Me, my husband, the kids. She's clawed my face and my chest up really bad. She's clawed my husband. She's clawed both the children and knocked them both down (one ended up with cactus in his hand because she knocked him right onto a cactus). We've yelled OFF and turned away, but then she just jumps on our backs (it's what we were told to do by a trainer). It's hurting and it's making it impossible to play with her.
She nips, bad. A nip from her is more like a bite. We've told her No teeth and stopped playing with her, but as soon as you respond to her at all, she starts again.
Outside/inside. The dog does not want to be inside? She spends a large part of the day outside because we didn't want to keep her confined to the crate during the day. Now, she doesn't really want to be inside at all. We try to bring her in when we get home and she just keeps whining and going to the door. When we try to put her in the crate for the evening, she whines or barks and claws at the kennel. I didn't want to keep her outside full time!
Messing in the kennel. We were told to feed her twice a day, so we do. 7:00am and 5:00pm. We take her out for the last time at 12:00am. She still poops in her kennel at night...even when we've made SURE she goes! What's up with that? My DH thinks it's because she doesn't want to be in there.
This stuff is making it impossible for the kids to play with her and I really don't prefer to be around her because she hurts (big doggy). What should we do?
When she jumps up, lift your knee into her chest. We used to do that to Abby, our GSD, because she would knock people down. Knee up, right in the chest. Say OFF! when you do it, too, like you have been.
As for the bite/nips, you can do the scruff shake and say in a growling voice, NO. Or put hot sauce all over your hands and let her have a go. A couple times of that and she wont bite your hands anymore.
As for being outside, I dont know. I wouldnt want my dog out 24/7 either. I guess she will have to get used to sleeping inside.
Edit: how old is she again? You may have to take her out once more around 3:30am...puppies cant hold it overnight sometimes.g
***Edited By: aceyfacey2 on 10/19/2005 10:33:44 PM*** Reason: g
Kneeing him on the chest works. I also had a problem with my GSD jumping and putting paws on people. He doesn't do that now. As for nipping, you should yelp like a hurt dog when he nips. If he does it again yelp louder. Third time yelp very loudly and turn your back on him and walk out of the room.
She is about 6 months old now I guess. We don't have an actual date of birth. We got her from the local shelter. She's a really loving dog...just those behaviors are getting a little irritating. Besides...we can't have her messing in the kennel, winter is around the corner and she's too big to bathe inside! I don't want her getting too cold or anything. We take her out at midnight and again at 6:00am. We feed her at around 7:00am (sometimes earlier) and again at 5:00pm. At six months, shouldn't she be able to hold it for 6 hours?
I will try the knee in the chest thing. We also got a pinch collar. She's a little different when it's on too....calmer...like she knows.
We got some bitter apple, I was thinking of trying that. I like the pepper idea too.
The shelter told me to yank on her leash hard with the pinch collar on anytime she jumps or bites. They said I should be yanking her off her feet. She's over 40 pounds already!!! Sounded a bit....intense? She's a really sweet puppy and I don't want to take it too far, ya know?
How big is her crate? I forgot to ask earlier. She might be doing #2 because the crate is too big. It should only be big enough where she can stand in it and turn around absolutely no bigger or the crate training will fail.
Her crate is big enough for her to sit and I think stand (she only ever sits in there). I know she can turn around...she does it all the time. When she lays down, she's touching both the back and the front of the crate. I guess this one might be big (only width wise)...but the next size down would require a shoehorn and lots of vaseline to get her into! This was the smallest that she still fit in. Since we were planning to upgrade the crate to a bed when she gets housetrained...we didn't worry about whether it would be big enough forever...ya know? I just hope she doesn't grow out of it before we've gotten that far.
Shaunna, I have taken to using the fly swatter with Faith. She knows what it is,and I usually only have to tell her I'm goning to get it(using fly swatter for "it",lol)or ask her if I need to get it. She will stop what she is doing and put her head down,looking up at me"like NO,I'm a good girl!" I have only used it on her behind maybe three times since I started maybe a month ago now....and when I had to use it,it was only in the beginning,until she knew what it meant....now I just mention it on rare occassion. Just make sure that if you're going to do this,you keep the fly swatter up high,since she'll want to tear it up,lol!
Faith listens very well now most of the time. She has even quit nipping at Mandy(my cat),which she used to do every time Mandy came inside,when she was sleeping,trying to get attention,etc. Now,she just nudges her with her nose and then looks up at me,lol!
She still tries to nip the kids and the other human people around at times,but that's when I use the fly swatter as a deterrant(sp). She looks at me,then walks away,but at least she quits doing the bad behavior.
I would try the knee to chest thing as well. I believe that since they are both so young,they weren't taught manners by anyone prior to you and I aquiring them. Sad,but probably very true!
Maggie is 7 months old now. Sometimes, she makes it thru the night, and sometimes not. But she always lets us know when she has to go out. We usually take her out for the last time around 10:00-10:30pm. On good nights, she will sleep till maybe 6am. But often, she will get us up at 4am (or whenever) to go out. You might want to try feeding your pup earlier in the evening, and then cutting food off for the rest of the night. That might help with your poop problem. As for jumping on people, Maggie does this, too. One thing I have found is, she HATES the squirt bottle! I have one in just about every room of the house! If I just pick it up, she will stop what she is doing-I don't even have to use it! Of course, this doesn't help when a bottle isn't handy. I tell people not to touch her until she is sitting. I'm trying to get her to know that she won't get any attention when she is jumping on people. So far, it's not working real well, but it's getting better! By the way, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one with these problems, lol!
The knee to the chest is how our lab was trained not to jump. Also since the wheather here (PA) is cooler i find that our lab wants to be out most of the time, however when it gets really cold out he will start being in the house more often. I think the dogs just enjoy being out when its nice. Our puppy (6 month mini dachshund) would love to be out with him, but i can't trust him yet. Good luck
Jumping has been well addressed, the knee in the chest works great.
Get one of those leashes that is nothing more then a handle and attach it to her for control.
Feed her once a day.
If she is pooping that muh she may very well be getting *too* much food. How much are you feeding and what are you feeding? It may not agree with her.
Shes not to big to bathe inside but it can be a pain.
What temp is your house? It very well may be to hot so she wants to be outside where its cooler.
Nipping - Grab her muzzle and SQUEEZE it hard when she yelps ignore her. Muzzle squeezes are a good communcator, shes not understanding 'no bite' or wahtever so muzzle squeeze her while SNARLING no bite at her. Sometimes remember you need to sound very mean becuase they understnad voice tones. Don't be afraid to bare your teeth sometimes, shes a dog not a kid so she understand dog language much better.
If she whines and barks and screams in hte crate, ignore it. It rarely takes long for them to figure out they need to deal. She dosent have Seperation Anxiety otherwise she woulnt want to go outside.
How vigorously does she claw at the kennel? The clawing combined with the pooping indicates a possible fear issue here. Fear can cause a dog to eliminate.
Also, have you taught her a replacement behavior for getting your attention? Working on not jumping is good, but you also need to show her what she should do instead of jumping. What do you do when she jumps on your back? If you turn back around or say anything to her (even a simple repeat of the off command), you are giving her your attention, and thus rewarding the jumping.
When she bites your hands, instead of saying, "no bite," try wimpering like a puppy. This method doesn't work on all dogs, but it does work on some.
Please do not knee the dog in the chest. You can put your knee up to block his jump but do not knee him intentionally. It can cause alot of damage to the dog. The best thing to do is put Brandy on a leash with her training collar on, have someone hold her and have another person get her excited and basically set her up, when she jumps up, give her a correction and have the person she is jumping up on tell her "off". As soon as her paws are back on the floor, they can tell her "good off" and give her a treat. Once she has got the "off" command down, work on making her sit before she gets pet. If you have kids around, do not let her be around them off leash, until she has the "off" command mastered. Most dogs learn this VERY quickly. Also, with the prong collar, do not pull the dog off, give the leash a quick but firm snap and release, if she still jumps give another, just a little stronger. Do not do so much as to hurt her, just enough to get her attention. As soon as she does what you ask, praise her like crazy! Setting her up like this will train her without risking injury to an unsuspecting person. Once Brandy will not jump up on anyone in her family, get friends to help, she will need to know that no matter where she is(train in different places) or who she is around, that jumping in unnacceptable.
As far as her pottying in her crate, take a few steps back. Put her on a tighter schedule, take her out every couple of hours, in the night, set your alarm and wake her up if you have to, do not give her the chance to mess up. She will catch on real soon. After a week or so of every couple hours, stretch it out to every 4 hours, and so on. If she messes up, take a step back, that just means she wasn't quite ready.
As far as her wanting to be outside, some dogs prefer it outside. Koda can't come in the house because he starts hyperventilating. He has a problem with his lungs that is similar to re asthma and so he stays outside probably 80-90 percent of the time. Chingy is probably going to be outside most of the time too when he is older because even now he gets too hot in the house, he will pant and pant like crazy. I have his crate by the AC just so he can sleep at night. He likes playing outside alot, so I let him. I hope some of this helps......good luck!
I have to agree 100% and wholeheartedly with KatzPomDogz Post. I personally used the Prong collars on my dogs, with the proper training from my trainer and it works wonders But, someone such as a trainer should show you the proper ways of using one. You never pull on it without releasing and praising. Never Yank hard. a Quick snap and release is the proper way. Not doing this correctly is only going to confuse the dog. ALWAYS make sure you give alot of praise, Not just verbally but pet her, talk to her, if she is food motivated, offre a treat. Something small like a Piece of hot dog, Cheese or similar.
I would again, Highly recommend you and your dog signing up for Puppy kindergarden, Obedience classes, Not only is it going to help your dog but it will help you with the proper training methods and to understand what your dog is doing and why.
Just for Curiosity sake, What breed is the dog? I realize its from a shelter but did they say what Mix they thought her to be?
You should report that boob as that is NOT a qualified trainer. I am a dog trainer and if you yank the dog off her feet in a pinch collar you can kill her or seriously damage her windpipe.
This dog just sounds like she needs more exercise. See if you can find a nice fenced in area to let her run like crazy, chase a ball, etc.
The jumping can be remedied by what KatzPomDog said (forgive me if I got your screenname wrong) There should be 2 people, one holding the leash, the other encouraging the dog to jump up, without using her name. And when she tries, she should get a quick pop and release on the pinch. When she just sits there, she should get TONS of praise. This isn't going to fix overnight, you should plan to do 3 or 4 10 min sessions per day with her. She sounds like a high energy dog.....it will be good brain food for her!
Also the pooping in the crate could be a few things. 1) the crate could be too big 2) she may not be voiding it all when she's outside. She may just pee but may have to poop, too. 3) She may be in there too long
All can be adjusted
The nipping can be remedied by using a spray bottle filled with vinegar and water and give her a good "NO BITE!" command and a spray in the mouth. Eventually she will stop. And then give her something she CAN bite on, whether it's a bone or chewie, etc.
Good luck. Obedience classes will help everyone involved.
When you lift your knee, you are not kneeing the dog. You simply lift your knee. If the dog jumps into it, then she jumps into it. You do not have to exert any force whatsoever, just lift the knee. The dog will learn that if he jumps he will be jumping into a knee. It causes no damage to the dog, according to the trainer at PetSmart who told my mom and grandma this.
Thank you so much for all of the advice, wow. We'll definitely be trying some of this out.
I got a call from the shelter today and they asked me how Brandy was doing. I explained some of the behaviors we were dealing with and they just told me that she is not a good fit with our family and they think we should bring her back in!! I thought that was a little premature, no?
The "boob" who told me to jerk Brandy off of her feet with the pinch collar was the director of the shelter here. Yeppers, that's the one caring for all those dogs.
Okay, we are feeding her Iams Large Breed Puppy. We had been trying to switch her to Purina ONE, but it upsets her tummy and so we're going back (that is just started today). I think the pooping will take care of itself because we're going back to a food that works for her. She just doesn't seem to handle the Purina at all. Loves the Iams though. We're feeding three cups in the evening and three in the morning. She is 40 pounds and just about 6 months old. Is once a day okay for a puppy? I thought they needed to be fed twice a day. My mom is freaking out because she thinks the dog needs food down all the time. I'd never get her trained then!
Our house is kept at around 72 degrees. Is that too warm?
Brandy is a Saint Bernard/Border Collie Cross (that's what the shelter says. We think she may have some GSD though.
There are no obedience classes available in my area right now. I've called three trainers. I have to wait until spring.
I think (I hope) I covered all the questions I was asked. If not...please let me know and I'll answer them. Thank you, thank you, thank you for all of the advice, we really appreciate it!