does anyone have shiba pups or has anyone actually lived through shiba puppyhood? we have 2, kayman is 8 months old and keiya is 6 months old, and mommy here is going crazy!!!!
i have raised and shown australian shepherds but i can't seem to get anywhere with these two....help!!!!!
i'm getting to the point where i just want to cry, they don't listen, they destroy everything in sight, they run away, they ignore every method i have used so far to just get them to be good, treats are the only thing that gets their attention and i am having a hard time beleiving that our lives have to continue on the "reward system to keep them from doing something wrong instead of rewarding them for doing something correct".
I'm a Shiba mommy as well- Kuma is 5 months old. I can't say he's nearly as "bad" as your pups sound, but maybe that's because he's crate training right now, and when he's out of his crate it's only in a confined area i.e. bedroom.
Shibas are known to be a handful, esp when they go through that "teenage" period. They're also notoriously known for listening only when they feel like it.
Obedience training is strongly recommended.. I would also suggest lots of toys and long walks to tire them out.
I agree that obedience classes are a must. I would crate train your dogs too so they cannot destroy things. Crate training is not mean or cruel. It actually gives the dog a sanctuary. A crate is the dog's den. I think every breed goes through the teenage years. You will get through it with patience and hardwork.
maybe it's because i have 2....when i have either one of them by themselves, while the other is either in their crate or outside, then the one who is with me seems quieter and calmer, its when the 2 are together.
your right though i do need to get them to puppy training and soon!
it's just amazing to me though how much damage they can do in a matter of a few moments...does kuma chew on everything? They have so many toys i think they don't care about them anymore and now their chewing on my new house, the air conditioning unit, my new trees, and the patio furniture. i have even tried apple bitter to deter them from chewing.
maybe i just had a hard day with them and needed to "boo hoo" for a moment. thanks so much for responding.
hey there, not certain if this piece of info's gonna help. was juz browsing the forum when i came across ur posting. anyways, when training dogs, it's always wiser to seperate them both and train seperately- nvr 2gether. coz they'll have a natural tendency to play. one wud establish authority over the other and the other will follow suit. hence, u'll not be looked upon as leader in either dogs for the dog's concentration wud only be on each other. when training seperately, u'll ensure dat your dogs pay full attention to you and ur commands would hence be registered. 2ndly, it's not pratical to train a dog in the "dog's territory" eg. the garden the dogs sleep in. juz like introducing a dog to a new pup/dog, always do it elsewhere, preferably outdoors, where the dog's exposed to distractions. by training outdoors, u'll teach the dogs to obey even when there are distractions around. there are lots of obedience training methods available eg, choker training, treats training et cetera. be sure to check them out and enquire throughly for different methods yield different results. they've all got their pros and cons. from a dog owner to another, i wish u good luck
He only chews on things of mine when he doesn't have anything else to chew on. There's usually a bunch of rawhide and a greenie rolling around on the floor that he picks up and chews on. Occasionally I'll catch him trying to chew on a wire or cable but a sharp "NO!" does the trick. Kuma also really likes to rip up tissues and paper products. Have you tried bitter apple?
yes, i've been using the apple bitter, which does seem to work when its freshly applied, i haven't used it on the outside things yet, maybe i'll try that tomorrow...thanks so much!
and as far as *gerri* goes, thanks also for your advice, that does make sense cuz like i said before when i have them seperated each of them seems to do so much better with me, lots calmer and better apt to listen to me, when their together its like dogz gone wild....i have definately been challenged with the dominant alpha issue...i have even been trying the laying them down on their side while i lay on them trick, to show them that i am alpha, that works soemtimes but out of sight out of mind seems to be the golden rule with both of them.
my little girl, keiya, is sweeter by nature but she also seems to have dominance over him, but kayman, my little boy, tries to stand on me like i am "his" mountain, his domain... does anyone have any tricks to win dominance over them? I am definately going to start looking for the right training...i have to....i have never been so frustrated with any of my pets as i am with these 2...even my 2 11 year old kitties are getting beat up all the time...
Honestly, at their age, you could keep them in the crate at hours at a time, depending on the situation.
Between 6-8 months, the Shibas are gonna battle it out for the alpha position, so stand your ground. They're going to constantly test your limits so you have to be firm and patient. They're supposed to be stubborn as it is.
I believe Minniyar pointed out in another post that separate crates are better, because even though they get along real well, what if they were to have a fight and you weren't there to break it up? They would be trapped together in the same crate. I've always heard that it's best not to get 2 puppies at the same time-they will bond with each other rather than you. I wish you the best of luck with these guys! I'm having a hard enough time training just one pup, lol!
Shibawoesx2....I feel your pain!!!I have been in your same boat! I bought 2 Shiba puppies 6 months apart and was ready to tear my hair out BUT I lived through it. They have turned out to be the most wonderful dogs and I love them both!!! The trick for me was crate training. I totally agree with everyone about the seperate crates,as this has worked very well for me. I also have a fenced yard that they play in everyday to burn off their energy. Before the fenced yard, I walked them at least every other day. I have found that if they have no way to release their energy, they turn very distructive. My dogs love chewies and stuffed animals with long parts that they can play tug of war with(with eachother of course). My male is very dominent but he knows his place in our household. I was cracking up when I read that you were laying on them....that is what I did with my guy : ) Don't give up on them! It is so worth everything that I had to go through to get where we are at today. I wish you all the best ; )