Minniyar, thanks for the info from the lab club. No, we are not so ignorant as to breed Moose to a close relative with long hair just to try to get more long haired dogs. We both come from rural backgrounds and have extensive experience with both cattle and horse breeding and know that inbreeding can cause serious health problems. Besides, all of the other long-haired labs from the other litters were male - now, that would be a whole other discussion =) Moose is a gorgeous dog - both in physical appearance and in personality. He is very athletic and loves to hunt and swim. I know he is far from the standard, but I wouldn't trade him for anything.
All of the other long coat labs are male? Wouldn't it be fascinating if this gene in labs is sex-linked? Like in cats, all calicos and turtoise cats are females? I've never heard of a gene in dogs that is sex linked, but hey, life finds a way! I only wish that everyone who had an unusual occurence when breeding dogs had the same sense of responsibility you have had! You should read the horror stories of albino dobermans =/
I have heard and seen far too many horror stories in both dog and horse breeding. It is such a shame that people think they can play God when they really don't have a clue what they are doing. It causes an awful lot of pain and suffering for so many - animals and humans.
moose is adorable.....and minniyar, not all calico's are female...it's VERY rare but some are males. ( show on Animal Planet said so:) ) maybe someday the pair that had moose will give a female longcoat pup...wouldn't that be something? and best of all they wouldn't be a mix! lol
Yeah I think that male calicos are actually XXY, usually that's a genomal abberation that causes the resulting animal to be sterile. Any animal, human, cat, dog, etc that carrys the Y chromosome is technically male. But in order for the calico coloring to be properly expressed, they have to have XX in their sex chromosomes.
I have a litter of 6 week old labs. The momma dog is a registered black lab and the daddy is a registered chocolate lab. I got 4 pups, all males. Two of them have short hair and are black. One is a long haired black and the other is a long haired chocolate. I have no clue as to where the long hair came from. All the pups love to play in the water and even the long hair sheds water just like regular lab hair. I plan to sell these pups but will not issue papers for the long haired ones. I will just sell them cheaper as pets.
That's really interesting, have you got pictures of the puppies, the sire and the dam? I'd think the black one will look like a heavier bodied flat-coated retriever. I find it very interesting that all the people I"ve heard of that have had the long-coat gene crop up in their lines have them from hunting lines.
They look so cute. Do you hunt with your dogs, out of curiosity? I guess it's unsurprising that there's a real longcoat gene in labs, because some labs have really short smooth coats, and some have coats that are a little longer, and some have almost wavey coats, etc.
I have never hunted with my dog even though she has a fantastic hunting background. We got the dog with the intention of my son training her to hunt. Shortly after getting her, my husband got sick and we were unable to hunt with her. After he passed away, the dog got very attached to me. My son doesn't want to take her away from me. I bred her so my son could keep a female puppy and train her to hunt. Wouldn't you know that I got all males! So we are selling these and will try one more time since he really wants a pup from her. I do not plan to sell the long hairs with papers. I am only going to sell the short haired ones with papers.
minniyar, with hunting dogs or anyother working people often try to sneek in a another breed to create a better line. I know it is a common thing in malinois. many that have pedigee's only remotlely resemble the dog.