I was looking at Petfinder and came across some Keeshond crosses at a shelter in another city. I was wondering if anyone here had/has one and could tell me their experiences? I did send an information request (I guess I'm a glutton for punishment...promised myself I would never talk to another shelter) for the puppies, but was hoping someone here would have actual experience with them. Everything I'm reading about them sounds good so far. Anyway...would appreciate any input.
I have limited experience which is probably no help at all... My boyfriend's parents had one, which they had to put to sleep last month due to cancer. It was 11. It was a strange, neurotic dog. I know nothing about the way they raised it, but this was a weird dog. It would only go to his parents. Would not come to me, didn't like me to pet it, nor anyone else. would not pay attention to anything but his mother and food. It was not a very smart dog. He kinda had that blank stare like no one was home!!! He was extremely shy with people and dogs, and anything. And he would NOT leave their neighborhood. You would take him on a walk and he would not turn left at a certain corner which led out of their neighborhood.
Like I say, I know nothing about what they put IN to their dog in raising him, I met him near the end of his life. But I gotta say, I never liked this dog.
Sorry to sound negative. That's just my only experience.
Thank you for your response. You know, negative or positive....that's okay. I just want as much information as I can get about these dogs. This is a cross and I don't know what it's crossed with, but they sure are cute. I just want to make sure that, if we do decide to get one of them, we have some idea of the good points and bad points of them.....knowing, of course, that they are mixed and that they are shelter puppies. I don't even know why I looked at Petfinder today...but when I saw them, well, I just had to at least ASK about them, right?!?!
Shaunna, I have talked to a breeder about Kees, I was looking (and possibly still am) at Kees, the person that I talked to said that they were very similar to poms in there attitude. MAJOR grooming. I will write more later, I am REALLY tired and can't think right now.
Not all shelters are bad. I don't know if you went with a rescue or the pound. I know your background from what you told us. Next time don't volunteer information. I know you had no idea they were going to take the dog away. I am sorry they did....it made me very angry when you told us. All dogs go through a puppy stage and teenage stage. These people at the shelter don't really know a whole lot about dog behavior. I know they said my dog was aggressive...yeah right! Anyway, forget about the people who work there just focus on the homeless dogs. Just tell yourself you could give a flying you know what about the people ... you are there for the dogs.
Keeshonds is NOT the correct plural, Keeshonden is.
They don't smell like people say they do nor do they shead a lot as some would say, but they do blow their coats twice a year. If a Keeshond smells or sheds a lot then it's because the owner isn't grroming them properly. Or, their diet isn't right.
Anyhow, they're great dogs. Adaptable, eager to please, and forgiving.
If anyone needs a place to discuss Keeshonden then they're welcome to come to KeesTalk, http://www.keestalk.net/forum. KeesTalk is a new discussion forum for Keeshond owners, breeders, exhibitors, rescuers, and everyone who loves the Keeshond.
***Edited By: Kayzhond on 11/19/2005 7:28:13 AM*** Reason: minor edit
Am sorry to hear the Kees was put to sleep because of cancer. Cancer is a common concern for our breed. However, living to age 11 is not. The typical lifeexpectancy for our breed is 12 to 15 and it's not unheard of for a Kees to live well beyond 15 to 17 or 21 even. This is why when someone needs buys a Keeshond they need to buy one from a responsible, reputable breed who breeds for not only health, but longevity as well.
I don't know why that Kees acted shy like that, but shyness is NOT a characteristic of our breed. Keeshonden should always be lively and outgoing in nature.
Perhaps they got their Keeshond from a pet store where puppymills are known to supply them or they got it from some BYB. These dogs are known for a lot of health problems, behavioral problems, and are even aggressive. The millers and BYBs don't breed healthy and well-balanced dogs at all. If the Kees died at 11 from cancer then cancer was somewhere in the miller or BYB's line. In fact, his shy behavior may have even been a direct result of the cancer itself if the cancer was neurological in nature.
And yes, Keeshonden are very smart dogs and because they're eager to please their people they have been successfully trained tos erve as guide dogs for the blind. However, their size has prevented them from being more widely used.
I also love the fact that they're protective of their owner without the aggressiveness that often makes some breeds difficult to predict or manage.
But all in all their intelligence makes them a good choice for the dog owner who is willing to help a dog learn for the right lessons. Keeshond ownership, when the dog and human have worked together to become a good pet and a good pet owner, is a very positive experience. However, they easily get bored and can be a bit stubborn so it's not uncommon for a Kees to re-invent something when this happens. Thus, in order to get the best out of a really smart dog requires a really smart owner. If you can'y outwit a Kees then they may not be for you. Plus, they really like structure in their lives. So, if you can't offer structure then you may need to re-think your choice in breed.
hsaunna i have a keeshond chow mix named thunder. i know what parts of his personality are definitely chow chow but i dont know if the kees adds to that or not. i read a dog fancy article about the breed a few years back and he was every bit the clown they porttray them as. he is a funny dog... has a sense of humor ... but a devilish sense of humor at times also. he is THE most intelligent dog i have ever come across. he really uses his brain to think and reason out things. almost annoyingly so because you have to be one step ahead of him all the time. grooming is a must because they matt up easily ...... we shave thunder down during the summer months ... because we had no air conditioning until just this past summer so this summer we didnt shave him down. he was extremely easy to obedience train .... learned things and perfected them very quickly, usually took only one time to show him what you wanted from him and he had it down pat. it was a breeze. but then he gets tired of doing the same thing over and over so keeping him stimulated enough to comptet in an obedience ring is a challenge. we tried agility with him and he learned that easily also ... but wouldnt do things more then once or twice or you could tell he got bored wuick. if you can handle hair i think you would be happy with one for sure.