Salutations and hello to eveyone. Just thought I would share my photos of my corded standard poodle with all of you. This is Pioneer's Winston, a silver brindle standard poodle in a historically correct corded coat.
Corded poodles look so interesting. I have seen one other, a white one.
Just had to input.... Brindling is a striping pattern (dominant in some breeds, recessive in others) that causes black stripes of varying width to show up in the coat. I don't see any striping in your dog, and if I did, brindling is not correct in poodles (though the corded coat is). Why do you say he is silver brindled? He looks like a regular silver poodle to me though the cords do give his coat a mottled look..
Winston was born brindled, the striping quite evident, but with all fade genes as he has, the brindling fades with age. If you look at the coat, the variations in shading still show some of the brindle striping.
I learn something new here everyday that I sign in. Never heard of corded poodles before today, but I looked it up on http://www.poodlehistory.org and here is what they say...
"The profuse and long coat of this dog has the pecularity that if not kept constantly brushed out it twists up into little cords. At one time it was suggested that cordeds and non-cordeds were two distinct breeds, but it is now generally accepted that the coat of every well-bred Poodle will, if allowed, develop cords.
....[Discussion of corded coats, immobilize the dog, corded Poodle cannot be kept in the house because of necessity of oiling the coat, after washing, coat takes hours to dry and meanwhile dog must be kept in warm room because otherwise he's liable to catch cold, therefore corded Poodles almost invariably dirty, smelly.]
"Points of the Perfect Poodle.... [familiar, except:] Coat: --Very profuse, and of good hard texture; if corded, hanging in tight, even cords; if non-corded, very thick and strong, of even length, the curls close and thick, without knots or cords....It is strongly recommended that only one third of the body be clipped or shaved, and that the hair on the forehead be left on....
"When the curly-haired shepherd was bred with the hunting breed, some of the puppies got corded coats and others were "woolly". Corded hairs development and growth is explained thus: the hairs in the curl donít die at the same time. Part of them die and others keep growing. New hairs are connected to the spiral, the old hairs fall away and so it keeps forming. The cording seems to be trait, which has formed through breeding. Unfortunately it must be noticed, that the poodle has developed much worse during the time. Strebel explains that the corded poodle put the woolly poodle aside. The woolly poodle had been very successful in Germany before that.
"The Corded poodle is not easy to breed or take care of; very few people are capable doing this. And the people begun to fear germs and bacteria and they started to avoid corded poodle which is much uglier despite the groomers abilities. Today the woolly poodle is much more popular than the corded one in Europe."
he is georgious...i have admired the corded poodle for some time...but i too only saw a pic of a white one...i love the silver color...i have teetered on the thought of getting standard/standards but right now isnt the best time to do that...maybe in the next decade...lol...but i can still look and appreciate the regal look of them...thanks for sharing...tell us more about him and yourself
I have always loved the corded look, but in all the years I've never seen a corded poodle at a dog show.
I have enjoyed some photos of them, however.
Why did you decide to cord your dog?
He is quite handsome.
Here is what the Poodle Club of America has to say about color in poodles:
Color The coat is an even and solid color at the skin. In blues, grays, silvers, browns, cafe-au-laits, apricots and creams the coat may show varying shades of the same color. This is frequently present in the somewhat darker feathering of the ears and in the tipping of the ruff. While clear colors are definitely preferred, such natural variation in the shading of the coat is not to be considered a fault. Brown and cafe-au-lait Poodles have liver-colored noses, eye rims and lips, dark toenails and dark amber eyes. Black, blue, gray, silver, cream and white Poodles have black noses, eye rims and lips, black or self-colored toenails and very dark eyes. In the apricots while the foregoing coloring is preferred, liver-colored noses, eye rims and lips, and amber eyes are permitted but are not desirable. Major Faults: Color of nose, lips and eye rims incomplete, or of wrong color for color of dog. Parti-colored dogs shall be disqualified. The coat of a parti-colored dog is not an even solid color at the skin but is of two or more colors.
Actually I came across the idea to cord him from a friend that wanted to use him for the 'Mrs. Bones' catalog cover. We both knew it would be a project that would take a year or more to complete. So I started to research on how to cord and found absolutely nothing for technique, so after much running around I contatcted some puli breeders in the UK and they directed me to Heather Wells in England and she instructed me on how to do it. It is a very long process and frustrating to say the least as your poodle looks like a napped up hedgehog for the better part of a year. Now after a year he looks absolutely georgous. So I am now starting to cord my other two male standard poodles, a Piebald parti named Dekias and a white male named Riot. My other two standards are females that I will keep in brush coat to show the contrast. My one cream female is from the same breeder that the famous white corded female that everyone knows about is from. She is out of Pioneer Kennels and her name is CH Jolettes Lexus Has Returned.
All poodle coats will cord...but the quality of the cords is totally up to what sort of bloodline is behind the dog. Thats sounds weird, but if you have a poodle with a poor coat from bad breeding and sorry bloodlines, the cords are going to reflect that. The cords are very much like a puli's cords, but different too. I have 5 standards, two from one breeder, their coats are like sheep wool. Then I have two from another breeder, but different bloodlines. The white male has hair like cotton and very dense and the black female has thick but very fine hair. Good hair both, but I would cord the white male before the black female because I think her cords would break off too easily when they all go out and rough house. My piebald parti male has hair that may cord nicely, but it seems alittle weak as well.
Your dog is very pretty. I have been going thru all my animal (horse, dog, and cat) magazines to sell on ebay, and I found one that had a beautiful cover of a corded Poodle. Very striking, and I must say I prefer the corded look to the show cuts.
The first year getting the cords is the hardest, after that Winstons coat is now a breeze. Smelly, good question. You have to really watch the mold and mildew that could form in the cords very easily. I live in Virginia Beach and the humidity is my ENEMY! Drying time in the humidity is a trick. I force dry Winstons cords right after his bath for about 25 to 30 min. Then towel squeeze with about 10 towels. Then he is under a crate dryer, normal air, not heat for about 90 min, then it is about 18 to 24 hours air dry. Now in winter he goes into a sweatshirt after the crate dry so he lays and squzeezes more dampness from his coat and then right before bed the sweatshirt comes off and he air dries. I have had people actually comment that he does not smell, but that is only because I am so stringent on his drying method. One side of his neck ruff hair started to smell and I went crazy and became even more fanatic as I refuse to have a stinky corded dog. Corded dogs are not just wash and wear, you really have to stay on top of the drying as their coats become almost waterproof and then when they finally wet through, you have wet cords in the inner core of the cords that takes a long time to dry.
I regularly Bath a Puli, and her coat drags on the floor. She also reaks all the time. They Bath her every month or so, but doesn't last long. I don't know how they live with it. The poodle seems more controlled then the Puli, even her face is all clumped up and I'm tempted to clip it. But the owners would never let me.