You just wont believe what happened last night. We put the girls to bed at ten as usual and they slept until almost eight in the morning! AMAZING!!! I couldn't believe the alarm clock. WOW. We have a new problem though and I NEED your expertise. Okay so we keep in them in the kitchen with the news papered floor, toys, and water dish. Well Nikki the biggest is climbing up and over the baby gate in the kitchen! She roams the house. She knows it's bad though and sometimes we will leave and she wont climb out. It's like a fifty fifty you know? The second problem is this. We put them out about every two hours now but they are still peeing/pooping in the kitchen in between potty breaks and almost every time we bring them inside from going out potty they will still sniff, and squat somewhere before they go back into the kitchen. What's the deal??!! Ever heard of either of these things? Why do they pee in between potty breaks so much? Should I take up their water in between meals or what? And why are they still squatting IN the house? AAHHH! Besides that they've been good girls. Still having problems with them jumping up though. Should I try the vinegar with jumping as well? They respond to that really well. Hannah let me know what you think. Anyone else going through similar issues I welcome any feedback!
Thats Awesome they slept so long!! Try nailing chciken wire to the baby gates.it worked for my dogs.Also they are going in your house because they have learned that OK (the newspaper). Anyway as old as they are they should be able to hold it for 2 hours.Are they really going potty when they are outside? I dont ever have water down all day even with my adult dogs.They get it when they eat and that 2 or 3 times a day.I may give it to them one time again in the middle of the day then take them bakc out 10 minutes later or 15 minutes later.
Hannah, So what do you suggest for the kitchen paper though? I apaered the whole kictchen to start with and when I only paper part of it so they will go in a smaller area and learn to adapt to a smaller spot so I can gradually move the paper they pee where the paper used to be! I have to paper the WHOLE kitchen every day! ARGH. So you think I should put down the water bowl with meals (3 times daily) and they will be better about going all the time?! I had a feeling about this but I wasn't sure if they needed the water all day long. It makes sense though why they pee all day long if they have water access all day long! Chicken wire attached to a baby gate? I wouldn't know where to start. So when I take them out I'll make sure EACH does their business and keep up water unless they just walked or ate! That sounds like a plan!
I have never paper trained,becuase they will always think that it OK to go in the house even if the paper is moved outside.I crate train and take them out every 2 hours and make sure they go if not its back in the crate for half hour then I will take them back out again.I never let them make the mistake,its probably hard with 3 pups but I think its possible.I can housebreak a puppy in 3 weeks at the most and never have one accident.little dogs dont need as much water as they lead on.Like I said give them water with their food and maybe one other time through out the day.If you dont want to crate train try making their space in the kitchen a tad smaller.
Yes put chicken wire on the gates,the dogs dont like the fill of the chicken wire,so it discourages them and they can climb it either.So it corrects the behaviour with out you sitting there doing it.
With the jumping tell them No Off and either push them off or just walk away and that will knock them off and they dont get the attention they wanted either.If that dont work try the vinegar.
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Do you think it's TOO LATE???? If I want to crate train them for real....I would bring the crate out into the living room with me each morning after they get up out of it??? They sleep in their crate each night in our room so do you just drag it out each morning too? I understand they stay in it all day except for potty breaks, food/water and play...so where do I feed them and when do they play and for how long do you think? There are three of them so it will be harder for me to keep an eye on them if they are out. And if they are almost three months how long do they live in the crate for? Until they are fully housebroken? And how do I know when that is?
I am tired of papering the kitchen and them not understanding that they shouldn't go in the house so I am deifinitely willing to try crate training during the day since I know they wont pee at night I'd hope they know to hold it during the day as well.
Hannah I SOOOO appreciate you being my FutureVetCounselor! If I am ever asking too much or you want a break from training my pups just let me know. I don't want to overwhelm you with questions okay! I ordered a pom book ver a week ago maybe it will come this cenutry! Thanks again hannah!
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Keep the crate in the room if you want,my crates are all in the garage.So it doesnt matter where.They shouldnt be in it all day,just in there when you cant keep an ey on them.If you cna keep an eye on them they will never be of a leash.keep with your regular schduel.all feedings and potty breaks at the same time.Dont feed them in their cage.feed them where you are now....do everything you are doing now the same way just put them in a crate instead of the kitchen.Let them play for a few hours ech day if you can watch them that long it dont have to be all together,take them out one hour and then bring mback out later if you want.Split it up if its too much at one time.Make sure they go potty before they comeout to play and after they play.They should always be in the crate when you leave and at night until they are ayear old.They cna start to be out in you house and more hours out of the cage the more you can trust them.when they stop going potty when they are on the leash...if they do,then you cna let them out more and more and finally they can be in the cage only when you leave or at night.The most important thing is that when they are out they are supervised or on a leash with someone holding it.Then you will know when they have to go potty.Also when they get better at housbreaking you cna put up a bell at the door and teach them to ring it.Thats how my dogs tell me they have to go potty.
I never get tired of people asking questions,i hope the book helps you alot.theya re usually very helpful.You may also want to get a book called puppies for dummies.No Offense!! Its a great book i have the whole series.
Hannah, Okay so tomorrow I will keep the crate in our room and see how it goes. I will keep feeding them in the kitchen and take them out to play seperately. I know Sophie will whine but she'll get over it. They are getting better about the crate. When I put them to bed they don't make a peep anymore. They just know it's bed time and they lay down. ANY other time I try to put them in, one of them fights it and then all three try to run. I usually have to SHOVE them into it and try to slam the door shut before I am AMBUSHED. Any ideas on getting them to like it for times other than bedtime? I tried treats but they just want to grab treat and run! LOL.
If they whine during the day in the crate should I cover it with blanket? Or tap crate with flip flop? Shut bedroom door? I am a little nervous they may soil the cushion that they sleep on. They haven't yet, they know they're not supposed to so maybe they will remember to hold it when in there during the day! I hope so. What do I say to them and do IF they do poo/pee in crate? Clean it up and cross fingers that they don't do it again?!
We tried the pick-up-water-dish thing today but I haven't seen results since we started it so late in the day.
I will look into the puppies-for-clueless book. Maybe santa will bring it! I am SO glad you don't mind me asking questions. The girls also appreciate it.
So you think they'll figure out this potty thing if I do it the right way for a few weeks? They catch on quickly. The barking sure stopped!
Its not their choice if they want to go in the crate or not,put them in their anyway.they will learn to accept it.My dogs used to hate it but now I just have to say "kennel" and they will just walk in it and stay there until i shut the door.i can be in another room and say it and they will go in.They can have bones and toys in there if they dont soil in the crate.Most dogs dont want to soil where they sleep,so they should do alright. If they whine put the Vinegar in front of the cage and they should shut up.they are allowed to wine a little just not exessively.You cna also put a blanket over it too.If they go in the crate you will just clean it up and hope they wont do it again,if they do you may want to take everything out of the crate,blankets and all.
They are smart and will catch on very quickly!! You can start to wean them of the cage when they get older and better about not going in the house.
You'll be happy to know we are surviving our first day of total crate. They woke up at eight thirty, I put them out potty and brought them right back in and fed them. Took them back outside potty and then they went back into the crate because we went to Costco for a few hours. We came back and they came out, went potty again and then each got a fifteen minute walk and then I made the mistake of NOT putting them back out potty in back before lunch, so half way through lunch there was a HUGE pee spot on the freshly cleaned floor! I threw out all newspaper and I just put bowls and water dish on floor in the same spot. So now I know to put them out BEFORE lunch and right after. They prefer to empy bladder before taking in new food. Other than the pee spot everything's been SMOOTH SAILING! No messes in the crate and they only whine a little. Which is understandable considering they are much more confined today than the past. But no barking, so I only had to threaten vinegar once. I am so happy with this way. I wish I had tried it before instead of the kitchen I wouldn't have had the confindence in them and me if you hadn't been helping me along! Thanks.
I missed the beginning and I don't know what kind of dogs you have or how old but triplets! That's challenging. The crate training advise is awesome.
The two points we saw a turn around with our first pup were - when we took the water up and
When we worked with naming elimination "business time" and praising him. When he would pee or poop outside we would say "good business time!" while he was in the act - any moniker will do. When he was inside and caught him having an accident we would just scoop him up, put him out and as he finished did the good boy thing. It helped us calm down about it and gave him something to feel good about.
Also, I don't know how you would do this with three - but when our Cocker jumped up on us or visitors, we put him in a sit or down immediately. If we could watch him with an eagle eye we would leave his leash on in the house and he was just better behaved and it was easier to put him in a sit or down - the key though is not to leave them on the leash unsupervised -choking hazard.