Hey, you guessed it. As soon as they master one skill they start being weird about others! HA! Okay so last night they went to bed at ten as usual got up at 8:20 and I put them out, fed them, and then put them back out again. They went back into the crate and we went Christmas shopping. We were gone from 11:30 to 4:00 No potty accidents in crate! Great right?! Well we take them out at four to potty and them feed them lunch. Half way through lunch poop and pee on the floor. I distinctly remember one of them pooing oustide and all of them peeing. WHY DO THEY POO AND PEE DURING LUNCH TIME? I am so confused. It's like they just pee OR just poo and forget to do the other half of their business outside. Is this somehow my fault? It's becoming a trend among them. Should I be regulating HOW MUCH they eat? Maybe too much? And they are also seeming not hungry when I put the food down. They stare at me. It takes them ten minutes to be interested in any food and I give them 20 mintues to eat and drink. (any longer and they poo all over) AND last night when we brought them out to play (one at a time for 20 min) Molly peed in the living room!!!!! She'd JUST gone out. What should I do? They understand that the crate is their den but now the rest of the house is NOT! HELP!!!!! Should I not let them out until they ALL understand to ONLY poo/pee outside? They are about three months old now when to puppies understand poo/pee and not going inside? Puppy Insight Much Appreciated!
***Edited By: SweetGMichelle on 12/12/2005 7:34:54 PM*** Reason: Add
They are little boogers Michelle. If they just look at you when you feed them and they dont eat well that htier problem and they can have another chance later at the next meal.
When she peed on the floor did you correct her when she was doing it? that is the ONLY time you can correct her when she goes on the floor. When she starts circling,sniffing,not paying attention,or just seems like shes in Lala land take her out to go potty. When she is going on the floor clap your hands or drop something like a can with a few pennies in it.Do ANYTHING to get her attention so she will stop. Immiedetly take her outside to go potty and tell ehr good girl if she goes and you can give her a treat or ball or her favorite toys.
If they have been going potty in the middle of their meal,since you know thats going to happen take them out.Dogs that LOVE to eat will go potty on purpose so they can eat or drink even more.How much food are they eating?
if they dont wnat to eat when you give them the chance thats THEIR porblem not yours they had the chance if they dont eat well they can eat later.
They also may not like the food that much,put some chicken broth or pop a fish oil pill and put the oil all over the food.You can also put a little bacon grease if you want.If you dont have these than you can ut olive oil on their food.It will help their coats and they will be getting something a little different.My dogs get Flaxseed oil,fish oil,and chicken broth. and i switch every other day to olive opil and chicken broth and the flaxseed.
the flaxseed helps with shedding and so does the other oils,the chicken broth is for extra calories for the active dogs and for the winter months.
Hannah, When I feed them I always take them out right before and then right after. There are only fifteen to twenty mintues in between. It seems like they should be able to hold it right? Should I maybe measure their food at each meal? I would add something yummy to their dishes but the vet said if I did they would associate the people food that goes into it with our food and beg more because of the cross feeding. And they would come to expect it every meal. I'd rather they grew into low maintenance dogs. I had to pamper Lola and she got an ego. How much should 3-5 pound dogs eat? We feed them Royal Canin. It's for small breed puppies. I do have olive oil though that I think may be okay. Would it help their coat shine more? We don't have a problem with shedding yet. The Molly thing is kinda funny. When they play they pretty much just run around with us with noses glued to the floor. They don't get to come out much so they like to look for lost cheerios and smell old spots they made. So it's SUPER hard to know if they're just smelling or if they're circling. Should they stay in their crate then until they are more reliable in the kitchen? It may be a good indication of their understanding?! Thanks for responding. I have been stressing over this today.
Well first not sure it you do this or not, but when they have accidents in the house especally on the rugs. Then you need to put some vinager over the spot to disguise the smell. If they constantly smell their urine in the house then they are going to beleive it is alright to potty there.
Another thing is I would feed them outside then if they have to go potty during that time they then can do it outside. Once they are potty trained you can bring them in to eat.
Although I always feed my dogs in their crates. So you might try that since you said they know not to potty in there. Plus it would be warmer this time of year.
What I do when a puppy is starting to go potty in the house is: Right away I start to tell them no no we do that outside as I am picking them up and taking them out. I will turn them on their backs. That way they usually stop otherwise they will keep going and then you have a trail. Once they are outside I set them down and tell them this is were we go potty. If they didn't finish in the house then they usually will go and finish. Then I praise them and tell them thats a good puppy we go potty outside just like that. good (girl/boy)
I then make sure the mess is cleaned up before they come back in.
Good luck they sound like normal puppies.
O as for food usually at that size I start them out at 1/2 cup of food each. Since I start to feed my puppies individually at around 6 weeks then I can adjust it as needed. Some of couse will eat more and others will eat less. But I always start out at 1/2 cup and then I go from there.
Our dogs get all kind of people food in thier bowl and ont beg realy bad.All we have to do is tell them to go laydown if they get too annoying.The olive oil does make their coat so much more shinier.Im not much on royal canin becuas eits over priced for what the ingredients are,but its still an pretty good food.They seem to always love it. I KNOW for a fact they should be able to hold it,but I was thinking that if made them go potty inbetween then you wouldnt have a mess to clean up and that would be one les accident in the house for them.You also could feed them outside. they need to be out of the crate to play with your family,so maybe do it outside for a while.My dog sniff alot to its natural but they give other signs like:clueless or circling or going by the door and looking out. They should probably only get a 1/2 cup or 1 cup for the whole day. And yes messure it.Divide up the whole amount for the day into 3 or 4 meals throughout the day.
***Edited By: cockerlover on 12/12/2005 11:21:16 PM*** Reason: add
I never thought about the vinegar! They hate it. We used it when they barked non-stop when we first got them. They know what vinegar is and I think they'll avoid a spot if it has some. Any ideas on whether we should not bring them out to play though until they stop peeing in the living room? I feed them in seperate bowls but they play musical bowls the whole time. Should I baby gate the kitchen smaller so they can't run around? Maybe it will help them focus. These dogs take things very literally, so maybe feeding them outisde next to their pee/poo station may solidify them going next to bowls. I may start measuring though so they are actually hungry during meal time. Also I let them have those pig hide chews, or nylabone (bacon) bones when they are in crate (all the time) could they be filling up on those? Could that also be why they still have things in their bowels to empy constantly? Just a thought, but I like it when they are busy chewing because they tire and whine less. Any thought on that?
Although sometimes it feels overwhelming, I can say they have made TONS of progress since we've had them. We have changed their surrounding and habits completely and they take it in stride so I should try to remember that!
OK i have a chihuahua mix who is a sweet dog but is driving me crazy. She is an indoor dog who absolutely hates going outside. When we try to put her outside to pee she tucks her tail between her legs and pees on the floor because she does not want to go outside. It's like she is scared to go out there. We have to pick her up (and hope she doesn't pee on us) and put her out there. When she is finally outside, she won't pee out there. She will scratch on the door for hours until we let her in. My wife has had it with her and is threatening to make her an outside dog because our new son will be crawling soon and she doesn't want him to be crawling around in dog pee. How can we make her to not dread going outside and make it to where she will let us know when she has to go by scratching on the door for us to let her out?
Bad dog, In my experience you never know when they have to go out. I was constantly guessing with my three. You HAVE to put the puppy on a feeding/drinking schedule. This way you can guestimate when she'll need to go out and get her out before hand. With mine we are crate training so they stay in warm cozy crate until meals. I know from experience that they HAVE to go out right before meals and right after. I only feed/water them for twenty mintues (I set microwave timer!) no longer or they pee in kitchen. I also baby gated the kitchen so they can't run to carpet and pee. It's kind of like Physics class, until they are bigger. The more they take in the more that comes out. What works for us is to feed them when we eat. Three SMALL meals a day right after we eat (never before). Once in morning, afternoon, and early evening. That way it's a schedule. Since you have a youngin' you already know that schedule for baby creatures is EVERYTHING!!! I had my daughter sleeping through the night (12) hours by the time she was seven months! She is 2 and STILL sleeps from eight to eight! It's all about structure and schedules. Once you get used to it, it's like second nature. Are you crating your puppy? If not I HIGHLY suggest it. It helps them have quiet time and teaches them to HOLD IT IN until you or wife takes her out. Once she is not allowed to roam free pittling when she feels like it she'll learn to look forward to going out getting air and pee/pooing. ALSO BIG TIP!!! ALWAYS reward her pee's and poo's. I started doing this and now they seem to race to pee first to get their treat. Get something small and hard. I use the "KONG STUFF'N TOTS treats. They are small and are made for training. They work great. PROMISE. Cheap too. The trick is, make her hold it (in crate) take her out every two hours and stay there with her until she goes, praise her while she goes and after with a treat! I was AMAZED how this little insentive works wonders. If she is forced to stand outside while you stay in she may resent going out. It is super frustrating and I know EXACTLY how your wife feels. BUT If you work at it, it gets better!! Also give atleast two-three days for new tips and tricks to sink in to puppy. She'll adapt!!!
Great suggestion about the Vinegar Lang!! specially how her girls already know what it is.
I dont think they are filling up on the nylabones,but you may wnat to cut down on the pork skin bones.keep feeding them in the kitchen and see how they do woth less food.You can buy measuring cups at walmart in the dog section.Thats what I use. Like I said to entice them to eat more,put some oil or chicken broth on it.Its not really people food to them.And its really good for their coats.if they still go potty when they are eating try putting the food outside..away from the "potty area" and to make sure they dont eat each others food feed them at seperate times.