There is no specific chain of comand really. Allready in the female dog belly the "chain of comand" is dicided. There are differant dominance stages, there is the Alpha and under them is just lesser dominant dogs. The alfa male/female will be very tuogh to a puppy born with high dominance, so that the dog won't threaten the alpha dogs possition when it gets older. The first puppy to be born in every litter is the "big dog" he/she is the one who "leads" the rest of the group. the last born offten called the runt is the least dominant and therfore the one dog that usually gets picked on. get it?
Aleczandra, order of birth has nothing to do with dominace. I just watch a litter of puppies, 8 in total. a non of them were concerned about rank. The Term "runt" is not the smallest dog in the litter. some litters have a small dog but do not have a runt. runt is a term for a dog who is born small, weak and unhealthy. Also there are dominate dogs which are not the norm, mostly dogs are followers most of them are unconcerned about there own place. then there submissive dogs who voluntarily back down from conflict. the dogs in the middle are not the same they will fight, but not for the status of rank, just for survival. if all the dogs were constantly concerned about rank the pack would self destruct. the pack strcuture is one about survival and harmony not conflict.
I'm not saying that the first born has to alpha, I'm just saying the first born is often the strongest and the toughest. Very few dogs are alpha. And dominance is decided from the begining, but they don't understand it untill thier about 1 year old thats why young adults often fight. the usuall dog fight without teeth but ALOT of noise.
I'm sorry about the missunderstandning about runt. I'm from the states but am currently living in Sweden. So my english pretty much stinks. I ment runt as the smallest in the litter there is no swedish word for runt. It was the closest I could come to explaining what I meant. I have had alot of litters, on my own and taken care of a couple to. my dog is on her third and last now.
My last litter was pudel, my first born hardly made it. she couldn't eat she was even pushed away from the rest of the litter. She is still the smallest but today she is even the most cocky. she has the highest dominance of the litter. It may not be the same with every litter, you may get a litter with low dominant puppies to.
Pack politics depends on the pack. In my household of 7 dogs the pack dynamic is very strong. My Winston is a almost 3 yaer old neutered male. He is Alpha Male, even though I have two un-altered males below him. Mind you, he could very easily fall from his position once the two un altered males get older. But because he is the oldes right now, he holds that position until they want it and can take it from him. I have two un-altered females, both right now are deciding which will fill the role of Alpha female. The older one is 18 mo and the yonger one is just now 1 year old. There is alot of body language, growling and dominance back covering going on. They have even had a go at each other to see who will be Alpha female. Now keep in mind, size and weight have nothing to do with who will get these roles in the end, it is all personality and maturity. I do not interfere...persay. But if it gets too tense I open the door and the security system here make a bird tweeking like sound and that breaks it up. So Alpha in my opinion is by personality, age, maturity. Not by birth number or size of the dog.
I pwn a Alpha female, she is a miniture poodle.. As grown dog size does not matter but high dominance is differant between differant dog groups.the dog still has its spot in dominance but there may came a higher dominant dog that puts my dog in a lower possition because Alpha mean only that it is the leader dog and the dogs fight in the ages between 5 months to the age of three. this is the time they are put into the spot they are born with by other dogs. You can only have one Alpha in a pack. the others can be high dominant.
Really? I have had a lot of litters over the last 10 years. I am always amazed when people come out with this birth order stuff, because EVERY litter is different. I have 3 alpha boxer females. 3 lessor alphas too. It is a lot of work to keep them separated and happy.
What is behind the birth-order theory? Has this been statistically analyzed? I have had very large puppies that were up in the ribs and been STRONG pups, and first ones that were average.
***Edited By: alicat1 on 12/27/2005 9:42:37 AM*** Reason: sp
It has nothing to do with how strong or strong willed a dog is, its how much they #1 test you, #2 test other dogs and which one gives up the fight with its tail held high litterly.. I have been studying this for 6 years and am now studying as a dog psykologist I am seldom wrong at this piont.
it's Psychologist, not psykologist. 6 years of dog behavior and you cannot spell psychologist. i have been involved with dogs for my entire life and heavily for the last 2 and half years on dog behavior. I never heard of such crazy talk. There is muuch to be learned about pack behavior. but a try reading "the other end of the leash" by Dr. Patricia MCconnel. She has doctirite in animal behavior and animal sociolgy. she specializes in primates and Canines. since humans and dogs live together. she has study them both. I think you will get more out of that book in 6 minutes. than you have from your 6 years of schooling. what school by the way. I want to steer clear of it.
I train dogs to do this. I also work as the guy who gets bit. For a dog to be able to work under this hard of stress. you kind of have to know a little bit about how a dog thinks and feels. or things can go south quick. I question why I have to prove my self to you? the thinkga your talking about are myths, not truth. As for books. they are good. but it take more than a book to make a dog do that.
(gunny) sorry I lashed out on your coment I was pissed at another who lashed out at me earlier and here I go doing the same thing sorry.
But still.. you don't have to put me down for bad spelling it's a sensitive thing for me. I was 12 when I had to move from the states and you wouldn't understand unless you've been in a simular situation. But just think about that everyone talked about me right up to my face saying mean things to me just for the fun of it because i didn't understand them.
So please try not to pick on my spelling.. it hurts.