I posted a Question earlier about our sick Saint Bernards.... The Vet said they have Parvovirus... We tried to save one with IV's, the rest I brought home to nurse.... The Vets advice was to have each of them put to sleep as they show symptoms. He does not think I should try to nurse them along. I am not sure what I should do. Shouldn't I give them a chance to live? But if they are suffering, well, I don't want to see that either. My heart is breaking for them.... I have practically been their Momma for the last 9 weeks, and now It seems I either have to watch them die, or have them put down... has anyone else been through this that can help me??? At what point do I say enough is enough?
OMG man if i had a vet like yours I'd be changing vets. That is ridiculous. As many as 1 in 3 puppies that get parvovirus will die of it without treatment. However the treatment usually involves IV fluids, because they loose so much fluid in their bodies from vomitting and diarrhea. Giving fluids by IV gives them a greater chance of getting over the hump, as the dogs don't become dehydrated. I've taken a puppy to the vet and the puppy been so weak with parvo I literally doubted I'd ever see it alive agian. But he lived and grew up to be a happy and healthy puppy. I've actually had 2 dogs get it and survive. If you have the funds and want your dogs to survive, get the puppies treated, or just suffer through it with them at home, doing the best you can to keep fluids in them. As long as your puppies are drinking without vomiting, their chances for survival are fair. You need to be very careful to clean up all feces with bleach and the kennel your puppies are in with bleach to kill the virus. In fact, clean *eveyrthing* you can, and wear gloves and the whole 9 yards.
i would change vets also. i had a pup that had parvo when he was 2 months old. he survived and lived to be 15 1/2 years old which is good for a golden mix. if you can afford it and by no means will it be cheap i would get all the dogs on i.v.'s . they need to be constantly hydrated as they lose alot of fluids and electrolytes with the vomiting and diarrhea. they also need to be on antibiotics every 8 - 12 hours, injections would be best if they are vomiting and unable to hold things down. also meds should be given to control the vomiting. the virus needs to run its course. you are really treating the symptoms and keeping them hydrated and strong enough to fight it themselves. i wish you alot of luck in treating these babies. if you cannot get them all on iv fluids then ask your vet if you can give them subcutaneous fluids at home to help with the hydration.
I just checked on Checkers.... there was more blood in his stool than there was stool!!!!.... You mentioned giving something for the vomitting... what can I give them???? Can you give a puppy immodium?
you do not have to put them down. we had a german sheperd that had parvo, an he lived. my mom had to inject fluids into his neck and then massage it so they just didnt sit in onw spot ya know. she had to do that every two hours. for like two days. and he was one of the best dogs we ever had. please dont put those pups down please
Vet sounds looney, if they are suffering a lot or have a very low chance of survival I would put them down. Not as they show sypmtoms. It might be a good idea to start treatment now, just a little antibiotics if they seem to be "under the weather" before getting real sick. I had a dog with less than 50% chance of survival, my vet was honest with me and said it was very advance and a very aggressive strain of parvo, the odds were against her and she was terribly anemic. Said I could put her down to relieve her and b/c she had such a low chance of surviving and recovery could take months. Or I could start treament immediatly and leave her there for a week or 2, then I'd still have to continue her care at home once released. I chose #2, it took forever to get her back in good health and for her to grow, gain all her weight back and look like more than a skeleton. It cost a lot of money and time. She did get over it, beat the odds and is a great dog. I'd do what you think is the best in the situation and with young pups its a lot different once it hits. Sometimes it can kill them within a day. Othertimes they do suffer a lot and its worse for them just like a sick infant. But I have seen pups have it and grow up to what I think are normal dogs and seem to get along fine.
Well, I had 11 puppies, 2 were adopted b4 the parvo hit. 2 have died, 3 are sick and in individual cages.... My teenage son and I are giving the puppies Pedialyte around the clock.... we are also giving them antibiotic injections. we are cleaning up the mess with clorox and water. The remaining 4 are also in isolation.... How do I keep from spreading the disease to the ones that don't have symptoms? When do we sleep? I am glad there is a support system out there for me... It is comforting to know that others out there love their pets like I do.... These puppies are really like my babies.... I have been rocking them, singing to them, praying for them.... they just have to get better.... we should be celebrating their getting a new home to bless, not greiving over their loss of life, or the sickness they are experiencing now..... Thank you to all who have been there for me... y'all have been helpful, more than you know... You probably see Parvo questions on your boards alot, but it is a different game when it is you that has to go through it. I guess, I should try to get some sleep...
always take care of the sick puppies last. before you go to them change your clothes. when you are finished tkaing care of them change you clothes again. also shoes. wash everything down with bleach and remember bleach only stays stable for 24 hours when mixed with water. so make a fresh solution every day. you can give dogs immodium but i do not know the dose for small puppies. pedialyte is good if they are not vomiting. give them as much as they will take. if they are not being given fluids iv then you may want to try to give them small amounts of food. real bland like boiled chicken. they need some nourishment also besides just fluids to keep them strong. change your clothes outside of the house and bring the dirty clothes to your washer in a plastic bag. wash them seperately with bleach. you can also put some straight bleach in a baking pan and when you are done with the sick ones step in the bleach with your shoes to kill anything that may be on them but do not wear those same shoes into your house. change before you go in.
Well for a vet to just say put them down when they start showing signs is WRONG. that makes me mad that someone would say that. years ago my female dog had a litter of puppies and they were got parvo. When the first one died we thought it was strange and when the second one got it we called the vet and told them what it was. they told us we have parvo. so they gave us info on it and how you can bring it into your home and i was shocked. Did you know that parvo is a man mad disease? yep it is. You can get parvo from bringing it in from going to the store, park, anyplace. bleach is the only thing that will kill parvo. NOTHING ELSE WILL. anyways we lost the the all of the pups but one. I had each puppy die in my arms. I was up all night (and 7 months pregnant) feeding holding and caring for each puppy. did what the vet told me. but they didn'tmake it .. I finally called my husband who was out of town working and I told him to come home and we are taking him to the vet. even though we didn't have the money we did it anyways. they couldn't say he would make it but they would do there best and told us if he didn't make it we wouldn't have to pay the bill. so he made it.. he is a great dog now and it did cost us almost 2,000.00 for it. anyways parvo is a tough disease to fight but no vet should say that. it you end up putting your dogs in the ground in your house don't plan on getting any other dogs . parvo stays in the ground for 10 years if you barry your dog at home. but if not and you have gone thru parvo then take bleach and spray your ground all around your outside of your house. spray the bottoms of your shoes and let them dry and wash all your flooring and were they were sleeping and anything you have come across in your house. my female lad jewel had puppies and I won't let people come over until they get there first shots. if they do they take there shoes off and can not touch the puppies . then i bleach the ground were they walked....Been thru it and i would be heart broken if my puppies got it.... so....... good luck and god bless.............
I rent land from a very good friend who operates a boarding kennel. We live on the same yard in the country. Every spring and every fall she either runs or goes to a set of obedience classes, every spring /fall we end up with kennel cough. 3 years ago when the customary Kennel Cough reared it's ugly head I had 11 puppies on the ground, 5 litters (something I would not normally have happen, but I had 3 older girls cycle that I wanted to retire). The puppies were all about 7-8 weeks old. I decided an ounce of prevention was worth a pound of cure and vaccinated them all for kennel cough,delaying their parvo vaccine as I do not like to double up on shots. 7 days later I vaccinated with a 4-way MLV (parvo, parinfluenza...). The day after I vaccinated for Parvo, all of the puppies were coughing and feverish (apparently an common reaction to that particular Kennel Cough vaccine) 4 days later 1 puppy was dead, 3 more sick, a trip to the vet confirmed my worst fears ...Parvovirus. I had caused it by vaccinating puppies incubating an illness. My vet took 4, saved 2 lost 2. I took the remaining 6, saved 3, lost 3. The 5 that survived varied in the degree that they went down, all of them were very sick. There is a reason for this entirely too long story; one little female black and tan pom puppy became horribly sick, she went down and lay there on the heating pad, without moving like a wet rag for 7 days, I injected her with antibiotics every 8 hours, rehydrated her every 4 hours, and rubbed her gums with syrup as well. I kept expecting to find her dead the next time I went in to treat her, my heart broke every time I touched her, she just kept breathing. My only solace was that she was so far down that she wasn't aware of what was happening to her, if she wasn't going to quit I wasn't going to quit on her. At the end of the 7th day that poor little scrap of fur lifted her head and wagged her tail at me. It took 2 months for her to recover, but recover she did, and as a 7 lb adult, a year ago she became the proud mom of an absolutely huge litter of 7 puppies (5 survived). I christened her Jenny as the only thing that is half that stubborn, is a she mule. I kept two of the others from that episode, and they have likewise successfully whelped and reared their first litters. Again, don't give up, keep them warm and rehydrated. It will be 2 weeks from the time the last puppy became ill before you can say you're in the clear. Wish I could be there to help.
I am so sorry about your pups, you sound like you are doing all the right things though. Parvo is such a hard disease. Just remember clean, clean, clean after tending to the sick puppies. I have seen this disease many times at our clinic and it is so sad. I just sit and cry with the babies. There are lots of pups that make it but you have to be very consistant and patient. I wish you all the luck, your son sounds like a big help. I would also find a new vet, where is his compassion???
I totally agree with what everyone has said. Parvo is not a good thing...It's very sad to see these little one's be playing one day and having Parvo symptoms the next. Immediately,people relay Parvo to unclean surroundings - Not necessarily So - Parvo is just one of those things that you can come in contact with & it just happens... It didn't take me but once to realize- All the time,love,care,& money I spend on these pups-I need to spend a little bit more to insure all I had done wouldn't be invain - and that my little babies (that look to me) to provide for them could continue to be happy and healthy. I give them their regular Puppy shots(which has Parvo in it)...BUT, I also give them a straight Parvo shot. I use a brand that updates the Parvo stran more frequently than some others do,and I use their directions.The Puppy shots which contain Parvo-do not contain very much.This is very obvious since they can still get Parvo and die. I'm very sorry you had to go through this-It's very sad.I'm not trying to be a Vet, only giving my opinion & sharing my experiences. Hope you can pull some more through this.
Just wanted to let every one know that Our puppies are doing better... Checker's is still quite weak.... He is sleeping in my son's room now... He has taken over the pedialyte for me at night so I can get some rest! 3 other puppies that have symptoms, but they don't seem as bad... maybe it is because we caught it sooner? Thank you to all that responed and Prayed On another note... the vet we went to was NOT our regular Vet....( long story ) However, my regular vet agreed with y'all..... I am glad that we did not have Checker's put down... Another Question to y'all.... After we get through all of this... How do I sell these pups? If people come into our yard to see them, couldn't they pick up the virus on the shoes and spread this horrific Virus? And if I tell them about the virus, they may not want our pups, right? I don't want to spread the disease... But I cannot keep 7 Saint Bernard's in addition to the 2 I already have.... What have we gotten ourselves into, Where would I be without you "experts" ?
You always want to be honest with your buyers. I've *never* heard of a dog coming down with parvovirus 2 times in its life. I suspect it'd be akin to a child getting chicken pox 2 times in their life. I'm so glad that you stuck with it, and that the other dogs are doing well. Keeping them hydrated and getting them 'over the hump' was probably enough to give them the strength to fight off the disease. I hope your vet called that other idjit and gave him a firm berating. Just make sure all the puppies are healthy before you sell them. Be extremely cautious about people washing their hands before and after touching the dogs in a good antibacterial soap. Call up your regular vet and ask them what you can do to ensure that your pups aren't carrying the virus with them when they go to new homes. Honestly, outside of bleaching down everything in creation there's not a lot you can do. Parvovirus is one of those things that I've heard is in 70% of all areas of the US. Caution the new owners about exposing the puppies to other dogs and puppies until after they've had all 3 sets of boosters. As long as the puppies are healthy, I don't think you should have problems selling them. And while you want to be honest with them, you may want to wait to tell them the puppies had parvovirus until after they come over and see the happy bouncy and fully recovered puppies. So that they can see for themselves that there's nothing more to worry about.
Our new baby Storm, white german shepherd 10wks, has been at the vet since Monday morning. We just picked her up from the breeder the 25th of April. The vet will not tell us much, but that it is 99% that she got the parvo fromthe farm where she was born. This is my second dog that has had parvo. The first one was Crow our full grown shepherd when I was five. She did not make it,and died in my lap. I have a five yeard old boy who doesn't understand why we can not bring Storm home. We miss her so very much.
Well What I would do is take a sprayer and walk the entire yard and spray the area with bleach. If it is a nice day and warm outside it will dry fast. and that should kill the parvo. do everyones shoes. And I also have not heard of getting the pravo twice. like said above I think once you get it your can't again. But ask your vet. as for selling your puppies, if you have the info on pravo and you know they are healthy and be honest you should be okay. Not that alot of people might shy away but there will be families for your pups. Just keep spraying your yard and shoes for a month or so.. just in case. But that is what I think.. Good Luck and God bless
The answer is easy, leave them with a veterinarian to be properly treated (Parvo experience) or euthanise them. its really up to you, they can't survive with home treatments, with an owner. There are many different tx's that a Dr. will have to do over a time period so the Veterinarian needs to have them there so he/she can treat them. The longer you wait the less chances the pups will have...CHA CHING!!!
I think when people hear of how you nursed those puppies, they will be thrilled. It sounds like they have been so well loved and taken care of. Those puppies must have really depended on you and your son and bonded with you. I think that they have started off their life with alot of love and that is the start of a wonderful dog. I hope they get really special homes.
Hi there I am responding to all of your comments on Parvo. I am an avid animal lover and help all kinds of people with thier sick animals with the research that I collect from the internet! We saved a Puppy from parvo with NO help from the vet! There is this stuff called parvaid that you can buy online. IT WORKS WONDERFUL! It truly is like magic. It is made with herbs and stuff and I was really hesitant on trying it but we did and this pup did a complete turn around! I also have a recipe for this stuff that is almost like it. We used it on her while we were waiting for the parvaid to arrive in the mail. If any of you would like the recipe please feel free to email me @ firstname.lastname@example.org Thanks ~Wendy