Just brought a new dog, JD, home from the shelter yesterday afternoon. He's a 2 to 3 year old yellow lab/shephard mix. Don't know much about his background except what I can tell from his behavior. JD has bonded to my 14 year old son unbelievably in the less than 24 hours since we got him. He will not move away from my son's side. If my son sits, he just sits or lies down by his side. If my son goes outside without him for even a moment, JD goes through pretty bad separation anxiety. He's very protective of my son already, doesn't quite know what to make of my other two dogs but isn't aggressive towards them; he just stays away from them. He hasn't shown yet that he has any idea how to play and has displayed no interest in toys at all -- at least yet. He won't even "play" with son. He just tags along beside him. He doesn't seem to know how to walk on a leash and boy, is he strong! He obviously hasn't been trained on invisible fencing yet, so we put him on a tie-out yesterday with us in the yard and he was just fine. He bolts through the door at every opportunity and has gotten loose twice. He hasn't shown ANY food aggression although he was flipping out when the vet saw him yesterday. Oh, and he just loves car rides!!! All of those traits are understandable. Here's the problem. He seems to be terrified of me and my 16 year old daughter. He was perfectly fine with me in the car and strained to give me "kisses" at every opportunity. He also seems to be fine with other people when he's outside. But in the house, I can't go near him at all. He even snapped at me as I walked by him this morning. Even more than that, he has snapped at my daughter twice this morning. AND he snapped at my son's friend this morning when he came over. Not knowing much about his background, I'm not sure how to handle this. I'm a little nervous about Monday since I'm alone with him all day while my son is at school. I called the behavioral specialist I've used in the past, but she's not on on the weekends and doesn't have an appointment open until June 29th!!! I'm going to continue to seek out a behavioral specialist that can see us immediately, but do any of you have advice in the meantime???
i would leave a leash attached to him at all times. that way when he does something you can grab the leash and correct him right away. while you are waiting for a behaviorist get him enrolled in obedience classes. both you and your daughter should take him and take turns being the one training him. start setting up clear boundaries for him in the home. do not give him access everywhere yet. do not let him sleep up on furniture or beds. make him sit and wait while you prepare food for him and before you feed him. after you have put the food down make him wait another 10 seconds and say okay. always feed him after you and your family have finished eating. whenever he wants a treat make him work for it. start now before his behavior ggets any worse. also i know it will be scary for you for the dog to snap at or try to bite anyone of you but if you back away from him after he has snapped even only one time he has gotten a rung higher on that ladder. this is where the leash may be helpful cause you can give him a correction without getting too close to his mouth. a prong collar may also help alot even with the walking.
Thanks Scout. Great advice as usual. Good news...found a behaviorist that will see us this afternoon. Yeah! He is enrolled in obedience classes already, but they don't start until JUNE 12TH!!! Man oh man...seems like spring is a big dog adoption time! I do have a pronged collar, but have never had to use it. Good suggestion. I will give it a try. And I'm sad to say my daughter and I have both backed off when he nipped. My daughter is now terrified of him. My daughter is coming to the behaviorist with us so they can observe the interaction. Wish me luck!
another poster had a snaping problem with her dog too....someone suggested to spray water at it when it snaps, she says it works. she kept a spray bottle with water around her all the time so whenever her dog snaped she would spray it and say "No!". eventually your dog will learn that snapping is wrong, and it will stop. also, it sounds to me that something happened like someone hurt him when he was younger. he's learned to fear this thing and that if he snaps it'll stay away. he's frightened, but that doesn't mean this behavior is excused.....it deffinitly should be corrected as soon as he snaps.... i'm sure he'll be fine after he gets in those obedient classes, and that he will be a wonderful addition to your family. :)
Thanks Lily and Scout. GREAT NEWS! Just got back from the behavioral specialist. She did some temperament testing and does not believe JD has any aggression problems but rather was trying to establish his place in the order of the pack. (Hence the "air nip" instead of a real one!) Both of my kids went with me, so we were able to see the interaction of LD with three females (me, my daughter and the trainer) and two males (my son and her husband). It was QUITE obvious that LD has a preference towards men and sees them as dominant which is probably why only my daughter and I were having problems with LD. Phew! Believe it or not, dominance issues I can deal with. Aggression I'm not so great at. So I'm really relieved. This lady even had LD walking nicely on a leash and doing a good heel in just a couple of minutes! "Sit" is another story. LD will sit if you give the command AND display a treat, but if no treat reward is offered............ We'll fix that one right up! Anyway, we start behavior modification training tomorrow morning. LD doesn't attend until next week. (Just as well. Poor dog has had quite an exciting few days.) The trainer calls the first session "owner behavior modification training"!!! My daughter and I were given instructions to completely and totallly ignore the LD for a few days. NO eye contact. NO walking up to him, petting him or putting out our hand. That's in part to avoid problems until the training begins, but also she said that ignoring the dog quite often implies dominance. Who knew?! She said within a few days, LD should be comfortable enough that we can put keep our arms at our side but extend the palm of the hand a bit. And I think I've got the separation anxiety thing in check for now. My son is out for the afternoon and I had him crate LD with a worn shirt of his (regressing back to the old puppy days). LD cried for about 10 minutes and now is just lying there nice as could be. I still don't know what to do when my son goes to school on Monday. I do NOT want to crate the dog from 8:00am until 3:30pm. Any suggestions? Oh, found out one other strange thing. LD has been great with the other dogs in the shelter, my Chihuahua and my Cocker Spaniel. We ran into a pit mix at the trainer's and LD was just fine. This behavioralist also raises German Shephards for show and she had a couple at her place along with another Yellow Lab. LD was fine with the Lab but went nuts at all the Shephards! I have no idea what that was all about, but will certainly cross the street if I see a Shephard while out walking LD!
that is great news. and yes she is correct about the ignoring thing. if you ever notice when two dogs are playing and one gets a bit too rough the other will just turn to the side and walk away. it is such a suttle gesture but a very effective one. my dog does this all the time when she is playing with two of her pals as they are both very dominant personalities. i am so happy for you. best wishes and keep us posted.
Day three of new dog, JD..... Had our "owner behavior modification" session this morning with the new trainer (sans dog). My kids attended as well as each of their best friends since they're around the house so much. Keep your fingers crossed. New problem... (Scout, are you listening???) Found out JD does not like dry food, even when mixed with a little warm water. Since we give dry in the AM and dry mixed with wet in the PM, he hasn't been eating much. Last night he started to vomit. No food was coming up, just that foamy saliva like mess. This happened 3 or 4 times. Since it was raining, I drove my son on his morning paper route and took JD with us. He threw up in my car (nice doggie!) once and then outside the car twice. Once it was that bright yellow bile mess. We left him crated to head to the trainer's and when we got back the crate was completely filled with the vomit, the same clear foamy icky stuff. Only this time, the dog was lethargic and weak. We hustled off to the vet quickly and had to stop the car four times on the way there for the dog to vomit. It was becoming non-stop. Vet isn't sure what's going on. Temp normal, eyes clear. He was a bit dehydrated, though, so poor old JD who finally found a home is now in a doggie hospital for the night getting fluids. Poor thing! JD didn't get into anything that he shouldn't have, and my other dogs don't have the same problem. I can only think of three things: 1) He refuses to drink out of the water bowl. He will only drink out of the toilet. If the lid is closed, he will open it with his snout. (I clean the toilet every other day. It's clean! I swear!) 2) Anxiety and stress. 3) I used a new landscaper who, unbeknownst to me, had put animal/children unfriendly substances on my lawn earlier in the week. But they said things were fine after 24 hours. Any ideas? Suggestions?
oh boy ! poor jd. i don't think he is vomiting because he drinks out of your toilet unless you use any of those toilet cleaning tablets in the toilet tank. my cats drink out of the toilet in the summer i guess cause the water is really cold in there. if it has been a week since the yard was treated before you brought jd home then it probably isn't that either though i would ask the landscaper to use animal friendly chemicals for the future.anxiety and stress don't usually manifest themselves in vomiting in dogs though anything could be possible. some dogs will vomit bile if they have an empty stomach but it is usually 1 or 2 vomits not a whole days worth. since he has been vomiting so much and hasn't had a good appetite i would think he may have picked up a virus from the shelter where you got him. the best thing you could've done for him is what you did. have the vet check him and put him on fluids. he is probably dehydrated from all the vomiting and putting him on iv's will rehydrate him quickly. hopefully it is just a bug like we get and he will be feeling fine by tomorrow. as far as feeding him goes, some dogs just don't like dry food plain. wait to see how he is when you bring him home from the vets. maybe his not eating well is part of the bug he may have. keep me posted.
My American bulldog did that (the vomiting) and i took her to the vet and they ran a few tests and the results were that she had a bactiral (sp?) infection. Ask your vet if that might be it. what you described was Exactually what she was doing. hope everything turns out ok! Stormywinter
Thanks Stormy and Scout. I heard back from the vet. Poor JD has a bad case of hookworm. :-( He is starting to show blood in his stool, so it must have been really bad! I have to call tonight to see if he needs to stay (he was still vomiting this morning and not eating) or if he can come home. He is totally ridden with anxiety now they said. Can't blame the dog. Abandoned and then found 2 1/2 weeks ago and put in a shelter. Transported from that shelter to a no kill on Weds. We took him home Friday and then into the hospital on Sunday. Poor thing. This is a long week. My beloved Molly, my 10 year old cocker spaniel, will be put down tomorrow. Her cancer came back pretty quickly after the last surgery and they they think the tumor has invaded her lungs. She's starting to have trouble breathing. So Scout, as I say my prayers for Prinny, please think of my Molly. I am sure they will both meet up in a better place.
Hookworms are nasty suckers, Im' sorry that JD is having such a tough time of it and that your family is having to also deal with the loss of a beloved family pet like Molly.. Regarding the hookworm, ask your vet how soon it will be before it is safe to start JD on a monthly heartworm preventative (not the 6 month shot!) like Interceptor. It not only prevents heartworms but also controls hookworms, whipworms and roundworms. It's an incredible product. In fact, if you have any other dogs besides JD you should start all your dogs on it, because if they've even sniffed JD's poop there's a chance they can get the eggs on their nose and get any one of those. Clean up all the poop in the yard to be on the safe side. Hookworm usually requires 2 or 3 treatments about 2 or 3 weeks apart to make sure all the worms and eggs and larva are killed, so make sure you keep up with it if the dog isn't on Interceptor. Stick to feeding a high quallity dry food, it is way better for him than canned food (though you may want to give him canned food for a few days until he gets over the hookworm infestation). I wouldn't even soften it with water when he gets healthy and over his hookworms. If he's hungry he'll eat, and it's wayyyy better on the teeth.
Thanks Red. Thanks Minniyar. Minn -- How long does a hookworm infestation usually last and what can I expect until it calms down? And also, what brand of food do you recommend? My dogs have been getting Science Diet, but that was mainly because it was the ONLY food that didn't upset my Boxer's stomache. My vet told me though that it is mainly "filler". JD's also a bit thin -- typical of a shelter dog -- and needs to put on some weight. I would love to hear your suggestion.
i will definitely say a prayer for molly. i am so sorry you have to go thru that also. hook worms are the nastiest of the worms to get rid of. they can also make a dog very anemic if they are heavily infested. keeping the yard scooped up is very important as the hookworms can live in the soil. they can attach themselves to the pads of your dogs feet and when the dog grooms himself they ingest the egg/larvae and can re infect themselves. panacur is one of the treatments for hooks. it is a powder form that is put on their food once a day for three days then repeated again in several weeks. drontal is also used and that is a pill form wich is given once then repeated in 2-3 weeks. after the final dose is given a stool sample should be checked 1 month later and sometimes a second round of meds is necessary. hooks could also be a reason why he is so thin as hooks absorb all the nutrients thru the intestinal walls. scinence diet is a food made up of mostly fillers. it really isn't a good food though lots of vets carry it. try wellness, or solid gold. even though canned food isn't the best from a dental standpoint if he needs topack on pounds canned food will help put the pounds on him. why don't you ask your vet if you can go visit him. sometimes it helps the patient and sometimes it only makes them more upset. sounds like jd's life has been turned all upside down and maybe a quick visit would help him out. my prayers will be with you tomorrow.
Sorry Scout...just had to take a couple of mental health days. It's been a very long week. Thanks for asking about Molly. I'm just glad that she's not suffering any more. And I'm glad to hear that you're doing well. I did take your advice and visited JD. He was sooo weak! Broke my heart. You know, it's kind of strange. He was at the doggie hospital for longer than he was in our home! He finally came home last night from the vet. Poor thing spent four days in the doggie hospital... He was pretty sick and lost FIVE POUNDS between Sunday and Thursday! But he's now eating, pooping, not vomiting and in much better spirits. The vet said to give him a bland diet (like rice & chicken). When do you think I can switch him to canned? His poop is a nice solid now, so the diarrhea is over with. He's on Sucralfate 2x day for the next five days, and will start his heartworm after that. And then we go back to the vet on the 27th for a weight check and another treatment. I guess the hookworm treatment kills the adults but not the eggs, and the eggs take 3 weeks to hatch. I'll try the food you suggested and will probably keep him on canned only for a while until he gains the weight back. You and Minn were right. This hookworm is nasty business. I found out that cats and even humans can get it -- although in humans they just get in the skin and cause a nasty rash. I'm heading to the garden store today to try to find a good larvacide that I can treat the lawns with. When I asked my landscaper, he didn't even know what I was talking about. Thanks for thinking of us and keep your fingers crossed that this hookworm business is done and gone soon!
I'm glad that JD is on his way home and with your help is making his way into being a healthy family pet. What heartworm preventative are you going to put him on? I generally recommend interceptor because Heartguard has ivermectin in it, which can cause bad allergic reactions in some herdinng breeds like collies. Hookworm does usually require a 2nd treatment to get rid of. I'd wait 2 or 3 days before gradually switching him over to canned food, and then another few days until you switch him to dry. Be aware, some dogs *really* get to liking the canned food, so he may go on a food boycott of sorts when you try to change him over to dry. Feeding a high quality food like solid gold, Innova, wellness, canidae, or chicken soup for the dog lover's soul will help. I've also heard that there's a natural food made by Science diet that's very good as well. Keep us posted on JD!
Just my luck! While I was at the vet picking up JD, I stocked up on Heartguard!!! I think I'll make a trip back to the vet and ask if I can switch to the Interceptor. I don't think I can handle another doggie med issue this week! Minn, where do I get that food you're talking about? I doubt the discount pet stores like PetCo carry it.