we could get another pup from tatiana. but transfering the papers from FCI/RKF to AKC is a big pain. she mainly has piebalds and some black masked fawns. i would love to have a cream. quinn wants a reverse (tiger) brindle. i think they are pretty too. i will let him pick this time as rocky and annie are both mine. the breeder that owned rocky's sire is one of the top show/breeders. she doesnt have any reverse brindles , but she reccomended someone that does get them from time to time and has nice puppies. i sent her an email . we may have to wait, but at least we know we will be getting a healthy pup.
also, thanks noscam ! i had a gut feeling about this whole thing. it just didnt add up. the ad was not here, but on puppyfind. i think alot of scam artist run out of there. dont worry. i ran ! lol
***Edited By: dusty082155 on 1/6/2006 8:31:11 PM*** Reason: added
huron, thanks. annie is my baby girl. she is extremely loving and attached to me at the hip. moreso than rocky. lol i call her annie panny. this is a pic i took recently . rocky is on the left and annie on the right.
The western union part sounds fishy but the phone thing i can relate to. I HATE talking on the phone. I don't answer when I don't know who it is and I don't call anyone. I am a phone phobic. I know some people think i'm nuts but it's actually more common than I thought and meet people just like me everyday. Don't get me wrong I'll answer if it's someone I know & want to talk to & I will call people like my sister, etc but if it's someone i was good friends with or even my grandma that I haven't talked to in awhile I won't call. I get anxious. I hate making appointments too. Though if in person I have no problem , though I wait to be approched first I will talk and then never shut up. Anyway my point being not all people feel comforable on the phone. Though if you have a phone phobia I don't think having your own business is exactly the way to go. If that is her prob.
edit* guess you figured out it was a scam. Glad
***Edited By: nikkispnce on 1/6/2006 9:26:43 PM*** Reason: .
the phone part didnt bother me as much as the putting me off on being able to pick up the puppy in person.i told her that i was inquiring about the puppy, because she lives in driving distance from me, and i could actually meet her and the pup in person. seattle is about 45 minutes away. she still insists on shipping the puppy. how does she plan on shipping the puppy, when its only a short distance away ? and she is very insistant on western union. i offered to bring cash when i come. now she hasnt replied. i think she is in a foreign country and going through a broker in seattle. if i were selling pups , i would have no problem with someone coming here , meeting me and the pups or accepting cash. too weird for me.
To my knowledge, and I do deal w/ puppyfind, there is no puppyfind company. There is the same puppy escrow service, just like terrific pets uses. It seems like that is NOT what they are talking about. It is a scam straight up. NO breeder refuses cash in person over western union unless they are scamming you.
You know, my handler has a Champion cream bitch frenchie Dorothy. I wish she would breed her one more time. I want one! She just said it was a lot of work and expense. High stud fees, c-section for 2 pups. I can understand that, but Dorothy is the nicest looking frenchie ever.
Try the normal methods, breed clubs or stake out some shows.
when my friend was looking for a pup, she answered an ad that was pinned up at a store. the guy said the mom dog was real fearful of men and he would prefer that she come alone. she got the address and a time to come look at the pup. i told her no way was she going alone. it sounded strange to me. hubby , me and her fiance' went with her. we drove down a long dark bumpy road. the one and only house at the end was an abandoned looking place with knee high weeds and boarded up windows. the address was the same and there was a beat up car in the driveway. we high tailed it outta there fast.i know he lured her there with bad intent, saw that there were four and not one and hid out until we were gone.
if ever i do go to someones house that i dont know, i dont go at night and never go alone. not only are there scammers but also some sicko's too.
PLEASE don't buy from him. I was scammed for the same dog about two weeks ago for 1000.00 for the cream frenchie. He has had 3 different names since then. I have been contacting tp about him every time i see a new add. He has used nybulldogs. salebulldogs. purebulldogs. purenglish88, and so on. He is still using his web at freewebs.com/salebulldogs. He has no contact info on his website. He scammed me a week before christmas for a cream frenchie with spoof mail. he said it was from tp and that they will hold the money until i recienved my dog. guess what. i didn't get any pup and he got my 1000.00. he has been using several diffenrent names and emails but the same puppy pics. please do not buy from him. he has used the name david chase, vladimir igornov, alex dunn etc... i have reported him to several agencies.
yes he did !! when i inquired about the pup, this was his first reply:
You can check my website with my available puppies for sale. Will come with:current vaccinations, veterinarian examination, certificate of health, 1 year health guarantee- travel crate,full akc registered,microchipped (in-case lost/stolen). I ask $1000 free shipping anywhere in US.I had accident with my bike few months ago and now i have auditive problems,i cant use the phone but mail me with your questions. Thanks
He used tp in a contract to make me think I was western nion money to tp to hold until I recieved my pup. I thought it was legit until I western uniion the money and found out that he spoofed me using tp's ad with his info inputed into the letter. He has been getting away with this alot. Please either report him or play with him and set him up. Make him think you are wu him the money and ask for his info only to report him to the local authorities. Make him think you sent him the money and have him go to pick it up. mess with him and make him think that you sent him the money. this man had my two girls so sad for christmas. they thought they were getting a french bulldog pup for christmas. they were so heartbroken to find out he stole our money and did not really have a puppy. my 8 year old daughter cried her eyes out. i just wanted to get a hold of him for disappointing my girls that way and especially for christmas.
gg626, i tried taking your advice and giving this scammer a taste of their own medicine. i have sent several emails and no more replies. i have a feeling that they figured out that i was on to them. i am so sorry that you lost 1000.00 . it makes me sick to hear of people getting took like that. i have learned enough here to know what to look for and ask if i am not sure. i have sent an email to a breeder that comes highly reccomended. i would rather pay a little more and be reassured of getting a healthy pup. again sorry to hear that you were cheated like that. i tried to snag them, but it didnt work. i cant even report them as i was not actually scammed , but i really hope that you did. hopefully they will be caught and soon !
yes deb, this was before we found her. we ran into three scammers before we found a reputable person. isnt that sad ! we have a deposit on tiger, the reverse brindle girl. she will be arriving on friday the 3rd.
There are 2 definite red flags there. One price is too cheap average I have seen is 2000-3000 on puppyfinder and free shipping on top lol I sent a Doberman pup home last week through northwest flight was $295 crate was $60 plus vet trip and CERT of health. add that up and 1000 and free shipping man something is fishy! I will ship but I do prefer people come in person especially these little frechies I would be afraid to ship them they are soo small! If THEY DONT WANT YOU IN THERE HOUSE SOMETHING IS UP AND WU ONLY IS A huge RED FLAG. STAY AWAY FROM HIM. ANY REPUTABLE BREEDER WILL WANT TO TALK TO YOU ON THE PHONE EVEN AFTER YOU HAVE SENT THEIR PUPPY APPLICATION TO THEM.(OPPPs cap locks again :( aw well. ) good luck :)
***Edited By: JKKsEuroDobermans on 1/21/2006 7:11:53 AM*** Reason: sp
i agree. the price was awfully low to have included shipping. some airlines are cheaper. continental is 99 dollars. the last scammer i got turned out to be from cameroon (nigeria). i insisted on the escrow and he tried to say it wasnt available there. his contacts were a cell number and a p.o box . when i kept insisting on the escrow only, he started talking religion. this was his reply. i about died laughing ! lol
well then i know nothing else to say because i have nevr use that system in business and i have given you people lots of assurance so if you really need the puppy i will not mind telling to even western union the money and keep all payment details until you get the puppy then you mail them to me to pick up the money. NB just tell your husband this for its my last option for if any fears god he will not scam another for which is evil before god and the evil that men do live after them so i cannot do what my kids will also one day suffer. hope to hear from you and for more if you wish i mail you the cell number of the mabnenger of the douala gema international airline cameroon for you to talk with him and if you wish ask him about me and shipping via his airlines. warmest regards.
ohh yeah they all do that. i think i may be at the top of there list i must get 50 a week. all differnt sme saying lottery winner, so and so king -queen- whatever died and have 500k in a bank ect ect ect. those people are sick they do nothing all day but this its a shame. and man i have even heard of them calling peopel and threatning them . they are one sick bunch! I had one last night can i send you a " money order" now they are even forging them! paypal is the only safe way to go i think. or cash. western is fine if you have really really checked them out and have referances but man its sad!. wish i had the color you wanted. good luck in searching out a baby :)