I've seen alot of BIG guys with small dogs so I don't know how much you can "put" into dogs looking like their owners.
;)

Thats because those guys only buy toy dogs as 'chick magnets' a little dog makes them look 'sensitive' and 'nurturing'

lol probably...lol

Anyone else notice they don't have many pictures of the adults. Or many pictures AT ALL?

That husky with the pups looks like it's got corgi legs to me.

Why would anyone pay high dollar for a poorly breed animal? It is sad how consumers are taken advantage of because of a lack of education and the fact that people pedal this stuff off to be the hottest stuff since sliced bread.
Once they have your money, I would be willing to bet that you might as well not exsist.
And good luck on the gamble if your dog will end up healthy in the long run.

Anyone? .... Bueller? ..... Anyone?.....

So you breed RUNT to RUNT right?

OK......

HI Minisibes:)

I have to say I have seen so many people come down on you and I wonder how many came down on Linda when she decided to create Klee Kai.

I guess there are a few things to keep in mind.
#1 All Breeds and VARIETIES within the breeds started somewhere.
And if you do it right, keeping the health and temperement of the dog first and foremost then you are ahead of many out there. (dont even get me started!)

Anyone can create a breed, but to have a sustainable healthy population 40 years down the road requires good planning and group effort.

I know you are not creating a new breed but using 100% Siberians. And I have heard the argument that they are bred to be working dogs and pull sleds etc etc.

I wonder how many of these siberians are pulling sleds in the lower US,,, ie being used for what they are bred for;)
They are companions here, so is it really a sin to breed them to be companion size?
Some things to ponder;

How many TOY poodles are out there now? Are they used for the original intent? How many are out hunting today?
http://www.barkbytes.com/history/poodle.htm

How many Sibes can you find in a pound every year? "They got too big to handle...."
How many Klee Kai do you find in pound? Well let me know if you ever do, and ill show you every AKK breeder willing to bail them out and put up for adoption. Its VERY rare. Small dogs are just easier to take care of and thats just one benefit.

I am aware of several people in the Minisibe network including my own aunt, and I support her 100%.
Since I like to show and such, its not the breed for me at this point in time. I do hope they get there someday.

I prefer the Siberian temperment to the AKK temperment which you mentioned. But I should also mention not all Klee Kai are created equal.
There is still a LOT of variation in this breed, including size (two toys can throw a standard and visa versa) structure ear size, head shape, bone etc....
AND temperment. Some of the foundation breeders prefer them to be shy, and bond to the home owners only.

I have not seen eye to eye on this as I have heard of many dogs turn into fear biters, or not come and run into the roads, or just have serious adjustment problems. We have tried to breed for confidence more like the Siberians. Which certainly seems to require a LOT of early socialization, handling, AND genetics.

All I have to say is if you do this, please please do it right or dont do it at all. Its so unfortunate when someone breeds dogs without health screening, then all the new breeders get involved down the road and are left to pick up the pieces. Many are trying to breed out the polygenetic diseases that were permitted to pass down through the generations from poor breeding managment. Best to keep it from getting in, then to try to get it out later :)

Anyways, heads up. And best of luck to you :) and your project.

Aprilfawn
http://www.delmarkleekai.com

Mini Huskies, Thank goodness your adds were pulled off of E-bay, Craigslist & elsewhere! Those are no way pure Siberian Huskies! You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to make profit off the backs of dogs!

You are producing health problems when ever you try to minimize the size. Ughhhhh! Thank goodness your postings were short lived on here! You mearly were advertizing which happens to be against the rules as well on here.

***Edited By: rhondakbt on 2/6/2006 3:48:42 PM***
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Hmmm........I like them.

Does anyone else ever marvel at the new insistancy of our society to continually make dogs SMALLER? I understand that when breeds like the Husky started out we were more a society that lived off the land and our cities were smaller and country folk more prominent - BUT why is everything getting smaller and smaller and smaller.

I suppose I can understand downsizing a great dog like a Husky to a size more conducive to apartment/city life BUT don't you feel a little like you're messing with mother nature a bit? I can't see a Mini Husky pulling a sled - so what is their official "purpose" and what do you do with their natural instincts to work?

I get a little testy sometimes about subjects like these because I raise Shelties (which are NOT a mini version of a Collie! In fact, Collies were crossed into the Sheltie breed to make them BIGGER) and I keep seeing people trying to make them smaller - which baffles me because they still have their herding instincts but really are only capable of herding ducks...

What is the draw of owning a 5lb dog unless you are elderly, or live in an apartment? I can't imagine a Chi makes a great pet for the kids if your kids are active?

And huskies do not get rehomed because they are too big but because their owners are ill prepared for what goes into ownign a husky,same with smaller breeds like theirs like the little white dogs(forgot what they are called). Putting out a mini version makes people think its easy to handle and a great house dog and if they are bred down huskies that is not true. Loooots of training that people want to avoid so to the shelter they go.

What about the minature and toy american eskimos, poodles, schnauzers, etc. Are we talking the same principle? Not trying to make an argument, just curious.

abbylynne.. mother nature did not intend dogs to pull sleds.. or perform any other type of work.. they were all bred by humans for a specific purpose. i think it's wrong to say that this person is messing is mother nature.. all dog breeds are a deliberate result of humans "messing around with mother nature"

if we did not mess with mother nature.. dogs would all look like dingos and be roaming around in wild packs.

***Edited By: ntki on 2/6/2006 4:57:01 PM***
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But take a dog with a work ethic like a husky and make it into a lap dog and it will become neurotic.

Other minis were bred over time by many people,not one line.

What I meant by "messing with Mother Nature" was taking a dog bred for a purpose and putting it into a size that isn't suited to do that job BUT the instincts are still there. I fully understand that people bred those instincts into the dogs. My point was more that it seems this person is making the breed smaller, but not considering the instincts.

I don't know about with poodles and american eskimos and such, but I know Huskies instincts are very strong and I just don't see how miniaturizing the breed is beneficial. I'd be willing to hear the arguments for why it would be beneficial though.

And I agree the problem that most people have owning a Husky is their temperament is not suited to everyone. They require a consistent, firm hand in training and a solid understanding of their nature. As with any breed, you need to make sure the temperament of the breed suits you as the owner and your lifestyle. I think too many people see how gorgeous a Husky is and they don't understand they need lots of activity to keep them happy. I speak from experience as my parents raised Alaskan Malamutes for about 10 years before they had kids so we had several in our house when I was young.

I think anyone that got a "miniature husky" would be able to control its "instincts" just like anyone with a standard husky that does not do sledding.
There are MANY ways to entertain a dog with high instincts. Look at border collies. Not everyone of them is out herding but yet there are ways to control their instincts. ALOT of people own them and don't do it but RESPONSIBLE people do.
I think the same will happen with this breed.

Well Abby 'downsizing' has been going on for decades in many breeds, the German Shepherd comes to mind. Pomerians were larger 60 years ago, as were many toy breeds. The trend seems to be to to breed smaller lighter dogs in many breeds, even in labs the 'english' style smaller and shorter is now in vogue. Its going to continue, with many breeds, such as the development of the mini aussie. As for shelties well the american is much larger than the european.

While many people would eventually get rid of a full size husky for escaping, running the neighborhood/ being destructive a smaller dog would be easier to handle.

I'm not saying that I'm supporting this persons attempts to create a new breed, because they have been trying to sell 'franchises' breeding mini huskies on Ebay, which is just really unethical.

Hiya I was wondering does anyone know of any really good Mini Husky or AKK breeders I am asking also moreabout the mini husky ...can somone1 tell me more? Thanks!!!

Can someone post a picture of the Mini Husky? I am just curious what they look like. The sites the OP had posted are not not working because of forum rule I think they were taken off.

oops double post.

***Edited By: Hailey on 1/8/2007 5:16:23 PM***
Reason: LMAO