We always have people talking about puppy scammers, what about in horses?
I have a horse I am selling. I placed the ad on several sites as well as locally. I received an e-mail from someone who apparently lives in Canada. (I live in Ohio) The e-mail only asked about transporting of the horse to them. Now, my ad was pretty vague, I would rather give details personally by e-mail or phone so I can ask them questions as well. I responded admitting to my lack of knowledge regarding the customs, transporting, quarantines, etc of horses out of the states.
Now....what bothers me is...the repsponse I got was simply that they are contacting transporters to pick him up once he is paid for. They have yet to ask a single question about him, but they are setting up transport??? All they know is his color and sex.....very troubled by this.......anyone familiar with horse scams??
I would tell them you already sold it or something. Every time we buy a horse . We go watch it riden at a barrel race and then we take it and ride it at several different arena/s. Then we take it to our vet and have a complete exam.We have traveled all over to look at horses. First we request pictures and a video. A good place to sell a horse is Horsecity.com or NBHA web site is good and it doesnt have to be a barrel horse to be sold on NBHA site. A horse has to have a negative coggins test and usually health papers to cross state lines.
I know of people around here that have been getting fake money orders so be careful
I think that is how this is going to end up. As soon as I got the e-mails, I had a bad feeling, for one reason. He is cheaply prices, second, there is no pic on the ad and they didnt ask to see one either.
My fear is how they look doesnt matter if he is to be resold for meat......grrrrrrr.
I had the same thing when I rescued a small puppy and was putting it up for adopiton. They are scammers. Don't trust them, don't even return the email. I got the exact same thing. They say they will give you more money then you even asked for and that you have to send the excess to someone else, or will send you the money yada yada ya. They say they will have someone pick up the dog/horse because they know some pet transporters. It's all a lie. Don't trust them. My ad about the dog was brief too. I got all types. I was scared maybe even some of them would try to use her to transport drugs. And not to be mean, but their was nothing special about her either. She was just a mutt. I just wanted to find a nice home. (which we did at a friends house :) None of them asked about the dog and all of them either said they where a vet, a chrisitian missionary(my dog died and I need to replace it... - bull!), police officer. all kinds.
***Edited By: dogsareme on 1/20/2006 2:48:11 AM*** Reason: forgot to put something
I am aware of all the general scams out there, I do breed dogs and get them all the time. This one is different than usual, and just wanted the idea out there since we dont generally mention horse scammers, only dog.
Run, far and fast. Sounds like a scam to me. I wouldn't sell my horse or any animal to someone that I didn't personally meet and verify that they are the perfect home. I'd rather keep the critter than submit it to a life unknown.
Had this same type of email scam when I sold my son's Mustang (car, not horse). Someone contacted me and said they wanted the Mustang for their 12 year old daughter. They were a scammer and said they would have their shipper pick it up?
Definately a scam, because who would pay to have a 23 year old project car to Africa or where ever.
First I have to ask what you are asking for the horse?
There are still a very good percentage of the PMU mares that were left after all of the barns were closed here in Alberta up for sale. Somewhere betweem 1000 and 2000 were origionally available. The young ones and the ones that are broke were sold. The balance are still out there.
This is because there is NO meat market right now. I think the last figure I heard was 20 cents a pound. Unless you are looking for a specific performance pedigree you can pick up an unbroke horse in Alberta for $100.00. You do have to know where to look but they are out there. I just paid 500.00 for a registered sorrel Arab mare and foal, the sire of the foal is 100% Egyptian Foundation bloodlines.
The chances of the person looking at your horse being a meat dealer are pretty slim.
As to the transport cost I have heard anywhere from .60 to 1.00 a mile recently.
His price is much lower than that. I had no intentions on allowing him to be shipped anywhere, he will stay with me first. The only way I will let anyone transport him is to come here personally so I can meet them and such. I really just kind of played with him for a few e-mails just to see where it went. He couldnt even get the correct breed he was asking about, he says he has a racing farm and is buying them to be broke for an upcoming race in Arizona....lmao. This horse is far from ever being a racer unless its to the food bucket, hehe. He kept referring to him as ana Arabian, ummm, not close! The add said what he was, yet the guy still got it wrong. He never even asked for a picture! I sent him an e-mail telling him that this horse is not for sale to him.
Sorry, he isn't well trained except as a lawn ornament. LOL He is our last colt we had when we stopped raising horses. At the time we only kept him and my old half bred mare who I retired from being ridden due to old age, arthritis, etc. So since he was only a pasture companion, we never broke him. He shouldn't be bad for someone who wants to do that though, he is really laid back. Hubby has sat on him a couple times before and he didnt do too bad. But here he is just a grass trimmer, lol.
Maybe some could help me. I have my 8 year old Belgium Work Horse HONEY DEW. She is a spoiled rotten BRAT. When she rides with other horses, she is great. She flat-out refuses to go by herself. i was trying to GIVE HER AWAY. I don't want the money for her. There is no amount of money that could compensate for her LIFE and Happiness! yes, I breed dogs, I sell them, but my profit is really not the factor.. I love them. I enjoy every minute I spend with my animals. No. I can't just have them, put them out there and not care what happens to them later. It costs me for their food, shots, vet care all that. I am doing anything but making money. I love my PETS, I offer pets to love.I want to know where they go and what happens to them after they leave my house. If anyone knows of a TRUE HORSE RESCUE, where I could control what happens to Honey DEW, Let me know. The money is the last aspect of concern for her
we had one the same way, never wanted to ride by herself, she would turn around regardless of your correction and head straight back to the others. We would have to walk her a good ways away from the pasture before we count ride her. Funny, we were looking for another spoiled 'lawn ornament' for ourselves because our old mare passed last year and he has been lonely and depressed since then. This is the first time he has ever been alone. We never got one because they were all in the thousands, and frankly, I'm not interested in riding, just a grass trimmer to keep him company. We even searched for donkeys, etc. But no luck. Too bad you dont live nearby!
I would try calling local large animal vets or the race tracks I would bet you could find a lawn ornament real fast to join the one you already have. Just make sure it isn't going to be a walking vet bill.
kitkat; Why not see if there is a local university with a riding program that you could donate your girl to? I believe that was a suggestion from a back issue of Horse and Rider (What to do with your difficult to place horse(?)) They might have an idea. I would have been so happy to have a horse like her when I started back with horses. As it is it has taken me a year and a half and 6 horses to finally get one I felt safe riding. All they are lacking is a huge new fancy barn, but the old one does the job. All the food they need, regular vet and farrier care and next to nothing to do.
The thing about Honey-Dew is, I want her to go to a GREAT home only. I don't want no money for her. I have had many tell me to sell her. I want to be able to control where she goes FOREVER. She can stay with me forever if thats what it comes down to. I would just like to see her get more attention. I ride her backwards, standing up, I can climb and slide all over her. She jumps like a champ, I'm getting a little too old forall that now though. If I sell her, I lose control of where she goes, but if I give her, I can attach strings, and those strings are that she is never to see an auction house, or be whipped because she seems to think she is part mule. Unless I find someone who will love her, I will keep her. She is with my sisters 3 horses, but she really loves people. If I go out with ice tea, it becomes hers. She has personality plus. Good fences is a must for her too. If she can't step over it, she will push it till it goes down. My other sister lives next door to me. She breeds Arabians, and when Honey is in heat, NOTHING stops her from visiting the stallion they have. She's a character
I kinda have to agree with jeanie. Some people try to find horses for incredibly low prices so they can slaughter them. You know Europe and Asia pays big bucks for horse meet. There was also an episode on Aminal cops in which people stole horses to slaughter them. Their was also another episode where people were trying to buy the horse for meet in an auction.
i have a friend that this happened to not very long ago. She wanted 2000 for the horse. the email she recieved was from a man in georgia. he wanted to send her a cashiers check for 5000. She was to keep 2000 and pay a man that was coming to pick up the horse 3000. she actually cashed the check and was on her way out of the bank and just felt like something wasn't right. she had the teller to call the bank in georgia that the cashiers check was from and found out that it was counterfeit. the fbi is one the case but can't seem to catch him. he has done this to several people. his name he used was danny devine. be careful.
Be aware of skinners and dealers. The skinners of course buy horses to transport up to canada where they are butchered for dog food. The other dealers go around the country buying up horses and then sell them at auction where they could go to someone like you but mostly horse camps or hack stables and yes even skinners