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Posted: 4:45:37 PM 1/22/2006
She is more aggresive and seems more than willing, she humps on him more than he does her... she is more flirty when he just tries to smell her she hops around. But as soon as he quits paying attention to her she starts humping him again. He is very shy and nervous. She is not. They are tea-cup Chiuaua's.
Posted: 4:49:09 PM 1/22/2006
She isn't ready to be bred and if you had done your homework about even the basics of dog breeding you'd know that she isn't. Frankly you have no business breeding anything until you do some research.

Go here and READ! http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/breeding.htm
Posted: 4:51:32 PM 1/22/2006
You need to add your comments to the original thread you started and not start more topics on the same subject.

Your 'chihuahua's' do not sound ready, she may not be far enough into her heat, or he is a new stud or too young to know what is expected.
Posted: 4:54:26 PM 1/22/2006
Well thank you for your opinion but i have bred dogs before, I am not new at this... I was just curious to know if anyone knew why she was doing this.... what makes you say she is not ready to breed? Your document did not say why! This is the first time I have tried to breed her... thanks
Posted: 4:58:24 PM 1/22/2006
Because of your questions in your 2 posts on this, the wording screams inexperience. It is called 'tying', not locking, they are 'chihuahua's' not 'teacup Chiuaua's'
Please read up on breeding as a lack of knowledge can be dangerous when it comes to breeding and whelping puppies, especially in toy breeds.
Posted: 4:59:46 PM 1/22/2006
If your bitch was ready to be bred she'd stand for the stud dog. Dogs breed usually between 9-12 days in a heat cycle but, I've had them go as long as 16 days before they allow a mating. Do you know how many days she is into her heat cycle? Why not take her to the vet for some progesterone workups and see where she is at? Letting the 2 of them run around humping each other is not going to solve anything. Perhaps the dog is too young or inexperienced?

Posted: 7:08:48 PM 1/22/2006
How old are your dogs? How much do they weight?
Posted: 7:54:14 PM 1/22/2006
Actually, according to the new issue of Dog Fancy, "teacups" don't technically exist. The term refers to dogs who "rather than being rare or special, are actually just dangerously small, more susceptible to injury and accidents, and particularly vulnerable to health problems." It goes on to urge potential buyers not to be fooled by breeders trying to sell these extra-small dogs for "extra large" prices. This is actually in the article about Yorkies, but also states that the AKC doesn't recognize teacups.
Posted: 8:13:42 PM 1/22/2006
Before you get them tied you might want to call around to your vets and ask the price of a C-section. If your dogs are that small you'll most likely need one. Those 1 puppy litters born at 2am for the cost of 1000.00 C-section are always a joy. NOT! You still have time since no breeding has taken place to make the right decision and seperate the two..
Posted: 8:33:30 PM 1/22/2006
Just another thought... I don't mean to be argumentative but everyone is always saying how dangerous it is to breed extra tiny dogs. While I am sure there is a higher risk than standard, I don't think it is AS dangerous as most people believe.

Puppymills covet small small small dogs and those dogs rarely get proper care or emergency vet attention. Most don't get hands on whelping help to say the least.

Basically tiny teacups bitches would be dying all the time at the mills. Then it wouldn't be profitable, and they wouldn't raise them. I know that not to be the case in the 'large breeding kennels' that I have visited. So, I am not convinced.

There are a lot of factors besides size, such as the diameter of the puppies heads in relation to the bitches hips. Weather or not MOM of the bitch needed a c-section.

My Yorkie breeder has bred Yorkies for 44 years and she said that it also depends on if the puppies are short and fat or long and thin coming out, and this is a genetic trait. A 4 oz fat pup might not come out, while a 4 oz thin puppy will.

Just giving another opinion.
Posted: 2:50:19 AM 1/23/2006
Ali, In puppy mills the dogs are treated like a business. If they don't produce, or have problems producing they don't try and find new homes for them. Do you really think they rush them to a vet to get help for them?? Why they have plenty of others just like this one that are not having problems. That would cost money, they do not care or they wouldn't be in the business they are in. They often put down these animals in ways that you and I would be highly offended by.

I would like to think things are all rosie too, BUT THEY ARE NOT!

***Edited By: LuvsTalMen on 1/23/2006 2:54:32 AM***
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Posted: 8:59:37 AM 1/23/2006
About 6 years ago I purchased 2 pug puppies from an Amish puppymill in Indiana. Really I had no idea at first. This was before the term 'puppymill' was a standard. I really had no idea how many dogs this person had because all you seen were the momma/puppies. Which looked healthy and well cared for... and really they still are. This family raises most of the smaller breeds Chi's, maltese, Yorkies, Shih-tzu, Bichone, and pugs.

They had vet that came out every other week for general care, but if there was an emergency birth problem... it was difficult because it isn't like their harness horse could get them to the vet right away. Anyway, they had a LOT of tiny dogs, they tended to have even smaller males, but I know that they had very few birthing problems. They did study bloodlines, and believed if a mother was good and free-whelped that her daughters would as well. Despite very little vet care he lost very few puppies or tiny bitches during birth.

I also know of another woman in my area that has about 40-60 adult pugs and chis, same with her. She tries successfully for tinies. I see her at my vet frequently, but not generally for birthing problems.

That is what I am going by. I am not saying an average person with a small pet isn't going to have problems. I just think that dogs are a lot more resiliant in the natural birthing process. I mean, I think a lot of vets just like HUMAN doctors are a little c-section happy. Which, probably there is less puppy loss from being crushed in the birth canal, and less stress on the momma.
Posted: 1:22:14 PM 1/23/2006
These 'millers' are not like your average caring breeder...its a fact.
Reputable breeders have the moms (and all their other dogs) as well as not having 60+ dogs. These animlas live in the house, not in cages in the barn. These PM's do not bring mom inside so they can keep a 'vigile' by their side in case trouble arises. These dogs are left in the barn, whelp without monitoring and if they die in the process, then the bodies are disposed of. It is not that they dont have birthing problems, its that they dont care, these Amish millers do not go racing their dog to a vet for a 1000 + c-section, that would cut into the profit margin.
Posted: 2:01:08 PM 1/23/2006
Again, TOUCHE'
Posted: 2:30:13 PM 1/23/2006
Alli,

I think one of the points you said shows the problem of breeding for smaller and smaller animals. The size is not the "natural" size and the dog then runs into problems.

Although I also agree that some vets are quick to do procedures.
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