I used to be a fan, but i never see him use any other method except force. i know some dogs this may be thier last hope but you can accomplish the same things without punishment. it just does not make good t.v.
i personally liked it...as long as hes not harming any pets its good. i like the strategies he uses and we use it too..not that anything is wrong with our dogs but just ones that make sense... i mean you see the dogs in the shows got really good w/o any use of harm..its better than hitting your dogs right?! but anyway, i like it
Well, you see the problem it poses discpline does not erase the root cause, it just causes the dog to aviod correction. or the dog learns that in certain instances to avoid it. like when ceasar leaves. the dogs do not relate the behavior to the correction they relate it to ceasar. cesear present avoid this behavior. also if a dog growls and you correct it. the dog learns to avoid growling. now we have a potetntial bite without warning on our hands. his training never sticks. the dogs always revert back and ceasar has to return. ceasar charges 300.00 dollars an hour. he is selling a crappy product for an over inflated price. preying on people who feel that ceasar is thier last hope.
In order to change a behavior like aggrerssion we have to change what the dog is precieving. the dogs preception is it's reality. if a dog is afraid of skateboards and sees them as a threat. he may attack someone riding a skateboard. istead of punishing the dog for having natural instincts to survive and defen themselves. remember dogs are amorale, they do not think good or bad, they think friend or threat. they do not have a sense of right or wrong. so desnsitizing a dog to think skateboards are not a threat is the way to go. not discpling them. hitting a dog and using collars like choke collars inflict pain. to the dog the collar is the same as a swat on the butt. what ceasar is doing seems at first to be effrective but rarlley lasts. as soon as the dog figures that correction is not coming, they will go back to there old ways.
I didn't like it very much either. I've been successful at training dogs using non-aversive methods. But, if it works for him, I guess he is entitled to do it as long he does not do anything illegal or that causes long-term harm to the dog. For some dogs, it may be the only option, but I have never come across a case like that.
I was interested to hear what Gunny said about desensitizing dogs. My dog now has a mortal fear of scissors and his front paws being touched since hospital treatment. I wounder what gunny would recommend for that?? Thanks
For desinsitizing dogs i would feed the dog with scissor next to them. just leave them there for awhile. so the scissor become neither her nor there to the dog. then after a few weeks i would start touching the dog with them during feeding time. maybe once or twice for a second then stop and put the scissor down. paws are tough one. i would teach the dog to shake and treat while the dog lets you touch remeber too little is better than too much. if the dog shows stress back-up and go slower.
I've seen the show a few times, I like watching the dogs & their humans interact, or sometimes how its perfectly clear who "runs" the house. ............LOL.............Gunny, I've only trained my own dogs, but I'm curious.....about the growling thing, a friend has this issue w/her Male GSD 3 yrs old, she said he shows his teeth (as she walks away), but he doesnt growl, & this scares her. What w/you recommend? When I got my dogs they were pups, I did use a rolled up paper, like advertisements you get in the mail. I tap them on their nose when I'm training them & they start like biting on my hands. I dont "HIT" or "STRIKE" them w/force when I do this, it is primarily to divert their attention from this type of behavior, & speak to them w/a stern "No". Its not long before I throw the paper away. I have never & w/not ever Hit my babies, but if you have a better way, by all means please share it w/me. I just got (2weeks ago) a 4 month old Fem GSD, & she has that mouthing (like biting w/out applying force) thing with those little razor sharp teeth. I tap her on the top of the nose & tell her "No bites" I believe she is starting to get the message, although I am open to suggestions.........thanks
I know someone who's dog is alive only because Cesar was able to help them work through his issues. The dog was growing increasingly aggressive toward strangers and other dogs, had bitten the owners in cases of redirected aggression. They'd taken him to other trainers, all of whom eventually ended up recommending that the dog be put to sleep for his aggression problems.
If you watch the show, i'd say 9/10 of the dogs on that show have problems because their owners provide no discipline, and baby their dogs too much. Getting people to treat their dogs like dogs and not like spoiled children is all that it takes to help most of the time.
The one thing that has stuck w/me from Cesar Millan's Dog Whisperer. Is that you have to establish you're the "Pack Leader", I believe that to be true, dogs do run in packs. And while yes they dont know right from wrong, I dont think they know they are "A Dog", & I do treat mine as if they were my Kids because I've never had children. But I DO NOT hit them. There are things I can do w/Human kids that I wouldnt do with my dogs, & vice versa. But like the saying goes, the more I learn about (only some, not everyone) people, the more I like my Dog. There are some admirable traits I see in dogs, that are rarely found in the Human Race, like judging someone by the clothes they wear or the color they are, the education they have. But most of all, no matter what every time you come back home to them, they express how much you are missed even if it is just to run to the corner store.
to quote gunny: "For desinsitizing dogs i would feed the dog with scissor next to them."
Something similar has worked for me. It dates back a long time, too. Pavlov (or one of his students - I can't remember), report the phenomenon of "counterconditioning" where something the dog dosen't like is paired with food, and the dog comes to like it.
Walking seems to be the thing. I guess if you walked any of them for enough they would be too tired to fight. Right? Oh well, what do I know. I have three very spoiled babies. But, thats okay too. I'm the one that has to live with them. Mine would probably sit down and not walk. Their thing is eat, sleep. Eat, sleep. Sleep and eat.