I just had a question. I have been viewing dogs on that popular website that has hundreds and hundreds of dogs up for adoption, for real adoption because they are homeless besides their foster homes if they have one of those. Why do they charge so much for some of those poor dogs? And I also see they charge more for younger, smaller, and purebred dogs, beings these are the popular ones on the market today. Also, some say that in order to get this dog, you must be a stay-at-home dog mom? Well all I have to say is good luck to finding someone to take on that job when you start off by charging over $300 for the thing. I believe that in order to find some of these animals homes they should lower their standards or lower their prices. If I were looking between buying a homeless dog and a purebred puppy for the same price, I would go for the purebred puppy. I think that this is the general trend, and that is why so many of these dogs are homeless. Fine, say this dog needs to be in a cat free or other dog free home, but seriously, a stay at home dog mom? I think that is taking it a little too far.
The shelter probably puts more care and time and medical care into the dog than a breeder would. Really, $300 is nothing. It barely covers the cost of the spay/neuter, food, heartworm preventative, and any other treatment for a medical condition.
I do know that that happens. Others will tell you that it is necessary to cover the cost of rehabilitting, spaying, giving tests, shots, etc.. to all the dogs. That is true, but others are better at making that point, so I will let them since they have personal experience.
But really, you are donating money to the cause, so it isn't just the price of the dog, it is to allow those people to continue to do their work and help these animals out.
I however, got my dog for $52 including the microchip and the spaying, so basically, she was below their cost. What state are you in and are you talking about a specific shelter or ALL shelters in your area?
I am just talking about the petfinder website. They have really high prices for some smaller dogs, especially if they are purebred and babies. I just did a search and found a senior golden retriever for $75 and a baby yorkie for $300. I agree that that is still not a great amount for a dog, but some breeders will see that and lower their price to $300 maybe and then people interested will buy that puppy, not one from a shelter. It's not just the price that bothers me, it is some of the standards they set for the dogs. I'm afraid some dogs on their may never find a home because of some of those conditions. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just go to the website and search for various dogs there. Some seriously say they need stay-at-home-dog moms to be placed.
Oh weim I agree with you on that part. I wanted to take home a sweet girl at the shelter, she was 2yrs old and had been there since she was a 5 week old baby. They wouldn't let me because I don't have a fenced in yard and because I don't make my other dog sleep in a crate at night. So, she's still there, now 2 1/2 years old.... and I'm getting my 2nd dog from the breeder instead.
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 1/30/2006 12:26:50 AM*** Reason: add
I dont know alot about shelter fees except what I have read on here. I have never adopted from one before. I do, however have experience with rescuing. Coming from that point of view, I can understand the non-profit aspect, working off of donations, etc. We have taken in rescues that have had major medical issues due to neglect, lack of vet care, abuse. It takes a small fortune from my pocket on many occasions to get the proper treatments, tests, basic feed and care while the dog is being given physical therapy, rehabilitation, etc. The adoption fees generally comes no where near the the vet costs and we never recover the full costs. I can only imagine the costs for hundreds of animals a month, thousands of them yearly.
I don't have a problem with the fee, but the fence thing gets to me.
I have a small dog and a big house. She can run her butt off indoors. Plus she gets 4 or 5 walks a day, split between every member of this family.
The previous owner had a fenced yard, but was gone over l4 hours a day, so she basically spent her first year of life in a crate. . . Luckly, I adoped her directly from the previous owner. A shelter would never have given her to me. But she is perfectly happy, in fact, has never had it so good.
I agree that they charge too much and I know that they have to cover their costs but...it disadvantages to one's in the shelters.
By the way, here in Australia, you don't need to undergo an assessment (eg fences) in order to adopt a pet. I live on a property with no fences and have a male adult male German Shepherd who I got as a pound puppy. He was, however, a bargain. 18 months old, microchipped, registered, desexed, vaccinated and wormed for $50 AUS! Most of the pounds here charge at least double that though. I guess me and my boy were meant to be!
I can comment on the adoption fees for a private rescue as I run one..... The reason we charge more for young adoptable dogs is that they help pay for the older or sick dogs that we take in. I take in any MinPin in need and will vet it, spay, neuter etc. I've had dogs that cost 800 plus dollars! So those young pups that are cute etc help us pay for the others.
Most rescues are run this way and are honest, they will give you copies of vet bills etc....
As for the fencing issue well some rescues feel their rescues need a fence or the dog in particular needs a fence.
When I rescue a dog, I make it a promise that it will be safe and loved for the rest of it's life and try to find it the best possible home for that dog. I don't rescue dogs for people to buy, these dogs usually come from bad situations and only deserve the best.
"some breeders will see that and lower their price to $300 maybe and then people interested will buy that puppy, not one from a shelter. "
You've got to be joking, right? If I asked any of the breeders that I met with to lower their price, because I could get a shelter dog for the same amount, they would have laughed at me and told me to get the shelter dog! A GOOD breeder is NOT going to lower the price just because you can't afford it or you are comparison shopping. This is a dog-not a car.
Also, I don't think shelters charge too much. Have you even considered the amount of money they put into each of these pets? Even if the dog doesn't have any health problems, just caring for and feeding this dog for however many day, weeks, or months it is there-just think how much this costs them. Not only do I think shelters don't charge too much, everybody should donate money to them so they can better care for the animals they have.
I don't think they charge too much considering they give shots, hw test, deworm, and alter these dogs prior to adoption. If you were to pay for all these things on your own, you would spend more than $300. Not to mention, some of these dogs come in sick and the shelter spends even more money getting them healthy. I do have a problem with some of their rules and expectations. If it's a small dog, the shelter won't adopt to people with small kids. I think it's unfair because not every kid is the same. Some shelters discriminate and say you can't adopt a small dog if you have a big dog. Excuse me but my big dog is very gentle. I have seen meaner chihuahuas than my big dog.
Like the others have said the $300 for the yorkie pup( which is really cheap) will help pay for the labx that comes in with heartworm and has to be treated( very expensive to treat), and sells for $100. Putting the rescue group in the - of $100's. I think the fence rule is dumb UNLESS the dog HAS to haev a fence. Many neighborhoods now days will not allow fences to be put up. Sometimes there are certains needs of a dog like the stay at home mom etc. I hope this rescue does not have stay at home a must for all their animals waiting to be placed. I would hope the recuses/shelters have rules for adoption on each dogs needs, and not just general rules across the board for all.
Its really a no win situation for the unwanted pets. Its sad but a fact.The shelters have to pay for maintience and general operation too. Even when I got duchess as a 6week pup I only paid $50.00 from a byb that just wanted the pups off his hands before they started costing him. I had went looking at shelters and they were all around $150.00 and I felt like why not save this little bullie from the fighting ring instead of paying for a shelter dog. I paid another $35.00 for low cost spay clinic and gave the shots and worming myself and still came out cheaper. So i can see why byb's and puppy mills still can operate because some people feel they should save them as well as the homeless ones that still cost as much.
Itsa vicious cycle! Who to help!!!UUUGGGHHH! And pets no matter what the initial cost always keeps costing so you have to decide which option you want to go and pay it and take care of it forever.I had to laugh when i saw someone post one time that they couldnt find a rescue dog in their area that was cheaper than a purebred..because in SC all you have to do is drive down a landfill road and theres always one on the side of the road just waitng for a ride!
Of course if you want you can start to foster and I'm sure you'll come across one that is a keeper, like my Duke was. I knew no one could love him like me!
I just adopted a GSD Fem 4 mos. She was $250, I had to drive over 300 + miles to get her. The $250 covered all the previously mentioned & Micro-chipped. And Yes, there were some here locally available, but due to some of the Conditions, they shd have these Conditions/Rules posted so that adopters can make choices based on that criteria & not waste anyones time. I called many local shelters & went physically to some on a regular basis to check on what was available. One local rescue stood out, 2 different people gave me 2 different reasons why I couldnt adopt this dog 1)They deny anyone who uses the same Vet I do, (the most used Vet in the City, but has lower prices), & 2)Although the Female I w/get from them w/b spayed, I had to have my other GSD neutered (he is 11 yrs old) I told them whats the point if the one I get from them is already spayed, she said "Thats our rule!". I really felt these people were on some kind of "power" gig, & didnt have the best interest of the dog in mind. The rescue I got my new baby from said my Vet told them I take exceptional care of my animals, & I know she called because she told me my dogs name. So here again, I dont wonder WHY people go to Breeders & god forbid, Pet Stores, you have to wonder WHY NOT........lets see Pros & Cons....& yes there are both in most every situation, but the "Rules" (some anyway) were ridiculous, they discourage otherwise good forever parents........poor dogs
Are the dogs you're interested in really in a shelter or are they with a rescue group? There's a big difference between the two. In general, shelters don't normally charge that much for an adoption; rescues, however, generally have flat adoption fees dependent upon the age of the dog.
As others have stated, while some dogs may take minimal vet care prior to their adoption, others' vet costs far exceed the adoption fee. If shelters/rescues don't recoup their vet costs somehow, they cannot keep their doors open and then everyone, but most importantly, the dogs are the losers.
Consider it a donation to a worthy cause.
As for fencing, kids, etc., each has their own policies and procedures. The rescue group I am with will not adopt to any home that uses underground/electronic fencing, tie outs, etc.. We will adopt to homes without fencing, unless the specific dog they are interested in must have a secure back yard. That doesn't mean they can't adopt, they just can't adopt that specific dog. Each dog is different and is treated as such. I currently have a foster dog that would not do well in a home with children under the age of 14 or so and, therefore, I will not approve an adoption to a home with children any younger than 14.
Home visits are an integral part of our screening process and no applicant is approved without first passing our home inspection. It is during that home inspection that one can determine if young children are experienced in handling toy dogs or of they're little terrors that you'd have concerns about placing any dog in the home. You'd be surprised how many people lie or tell half-truths on their applications and without the home visit it would not have been discovered.
***Edited By: crestiemom on 1/30/2006 4:01:02 PM*** Reason: ##
I forgot to mention I did get my lil Girl 2 weeks ago, found her on that popular website. She was from a "Rescue" group. I searched Shelters & Rescues, the people I was referring to (earlier post) were both with the same Rescue. When I tried to reason with these 2, one told me, "Well, "Its up to her (the other lady), after all she is the one who Found her"..........go figure........and as soon as I get her pictures up on a website, I'll post it...She is sooooooooooo cute & ALL puppy. Kisses Kisses, Kisses, & then those belly rubs on the floor!
I cant wait to adopt my new dog. I dont care what it cost And i will get him from a shelter. i spend more money on unnecessary things that i dont need. so why not save a puppy life. Please... dont bash me, my own feelings.
Weimgurl, that's what turned me off to adopting a dog. I got turned down for two puppies because I wasn't a stay at home dog mom. Please they didn't get the opportunity to view my apartment. I have time for a dog, but hello I work like most people today. I believe one wanted $300 and the other wanted $500. I don't mind paying that much, but if you're going to be that picky on your standards...I rather buy from a responsible breeder. Before anyone ask, both organizations acknowledged I would be a good pet owner and encouraged me to apply for another dog. But at that moment I decided to move on. I want a dog that will fit into my life, not one that I have to alter my life for i.e. change careers for. I mean if I was having a human child that would be different, but come on. Plus, both of the puppies had "baggage" which I didn't mind, but all and all they were asking for too much from me.