Can anyone advise me on how to go about letting other prospective buyers beware about bad breeders/sellers? I just purchased a puppy from ** Kennels and am very dissatisfied. I found past complaints on her kennel before on this forum and believe that it is time something be done about this the proper way. I paid $900.00 dollars for a chihuahua puppy 12 weeks old, that arrived so very sick that she almost past away. She immediately was taken to the vet and I accumulated $1000.00 dollars worth of medical bills over a 9 day period. She required a constant incubator with nuebulizer treatments every other day. The vet list goes on and on. The bottom line is my puppy who's name is Paris, pulled through and we love her very much and as you can see would do anything for her. But as for **, she did not want to help answer questions when the puppy was almost dieing, we left many messages which she claims she never received, as did my vet who had medical questions & was doubting her age.We were told her birthdate was 10/07/05, but she weighed only 15 ounces at 13 weeks. She is very tiny. And to this day, we have had the puppy 4 weeks now, I have not received my akc papers that she said she mailed or any health certificates or vet information as far as shots, deworming ect. I only received a hand written paper with brief information. Now that the sale is complete, she will not respond to me via phone or e-mail. How do I get what is promised in her sales contract? Anyone that can help, please respond. As to buyers, beware - she is awful to you and her puppies.
***Edited By: pyrmom on 1/31/2006 6:52:04 PM*** Reason: please do not list entire kennel names or breeder's names. nadia2 Full Member
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DELETE THIS POST IP: 4:23:49 PM 1/31/2006
I know someone who also purchased a puppy from there. The puppy is adorable, but also arrived very sick. the vet told her it was because she was shipped. The vet said that some dogs (especially chihuahuas) do not do well being shipped. alicat1 Senior Member
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DELETE THIS POST IP: 4:29:44 PM 1/31/2006
Can I ask exactly what happened to your puppy, and are you sure it's covered? A lot of health contracts I have seen don't cover things that can be caught like kennel cough or pnumonia. lovemychi New Member
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DELETE THIS POST IP: 4:41:48 PM 1/31/2006
No - I am sure that her sickness would not be covered. I do not want any money for medical bills and I never asked for any, I firmly believe that is part of the responsibility of buying a pet - what I am upset about is the fact that she has not held up to her end of her responsibilites as a breeder. She states that she is available 24 hours a day the first two weeks of receiving your puppy for any questions you may have. Well my puppy almost died and she never responded to her messages - I finally got a hold of her a week or so later and she acted like she could care less.And like I said, it has been 4 weeks and I still don't have any of her records or paperwork. I have sent many e-mails and messages and she just does not respond. She e-mailed me The 22nd of January and said the papers were going in the mail on the 23rd. I still do not have them and it is the 31st. alicat1 Senior Member
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DELETE THIS POST IP: 5:00:48 PM 1/31/2006
I really respect you taking responsiblity for your puppy. It is refreshing. It seem like lately the title of the post is 'how can I sue my breeder'. Which, some breeders deserve, don't get me wrong, that could be said about any group of people. It is just a lot more emotional because you are dealing with a living being.
As far as complaining, there are other people besides me on here that will tell you where to go for that info. I don't want to be mean, but unless it is the medical stuff that you want to report you may have a hard time proving things. I have never heard of some one saying that they will be available like that, though I guess if she said it in writing you can try to hold her to it.
I am glad to hear your puppy is doing well now abd that she pulled through. lovemychi New Member
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you are probably right - it would be hard to prove that she was not available for the help she promised. As for the other items that were suppose to come along with the sale....I can probably count on never getting those either. It just amazes me how people can treat others and go against what they say. What happened to honesty? I just don't want others to go thru what I had to experience. This was my first puppy and she knew that. She said since her puppies are small and require extra care, she is always available and would be in contact with me for the first couple of weeks until me and the puppy got ajusted. Something I forgot to mention is that I offered to drive 10 hours to pick the puppy up so she would not have to fly and she said it would be to stressful in the car for 10 hours and that the flight was only 1.5 hours. In turn - she shipped a 15 ounce puppy on a 1.5 hour flight then a 2 hour layover, then back on another 1.75 hour flight! She was at airports for almost 6 hours. I was not aware of this until after she scheduled and dropped her off at the airport. Again, she was suppose to call me with the flight in fo and never did until she was in the air. The whole thing is just a mess. I am just grateful the puppy is ok now. nadia2 Full Member
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Yes, that is the most important thing! Do you have any pictures yet? I just love chihuahuas!!! lovemychi New Member
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yes we do have pic's but how do I get them on here? She is such a cutie - as are yours, I had a chance to see your photos!! nadia2 Full Member
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Thank you. Do you have a digital camera? lovemychi New Member
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yes - I do have a digital camera nadia2 Full Member
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Do you have the cord to plug into your computer? alicat1 Senior Member
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DELETE THIS POST IP: 6:12:08 PM 1/31/2006
Well not that I know for sure, but there is an arguement that 10 hour drive isn't great for a puppy, but it is better than a 6 hour flying trip.
Could very very very well be that she didn't want you at her place. Kind of a red flag, though if I was speaking w/ someone and they seemed honest, I may not think anything of it.
I personally LOVE it when people drive. I get to meet them, they can see my place and mom (dad may be a pro stud), other littermates. I always try to ask if driving is an option. I have driven....well stupidly crazy lengths to pick up a puppy (MI to CO and back...long story).
The other thing is, not all breeders are on the stick about registering litters. Maybe she was busy...with other litters...what ever to send in the litter registration application, and if she sent it in on paper instead of online, AKC can take a month to get them back to you.
I probably stressed my last litter out, but the dang stud dog owners didn't send me my litter registration form until the pups were 6.5 weeks old. So they didn't get the papers until the pups were nearly 11 weeks. So, you may get them, but you may have to hound her and be persistant. Good luck. fragglerock New Member
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DELETE THIS POST IP: 6:28:31 PM 1/31/2006
That is the problem with buying tiny puppies.I breed toy poodles and everyone that calls are emails me wants the tiny,tiny ones.They dont want a regular size toy poodle,one that is a healthy weight and would not come with health problems like the tiny ones sometimes do.You have to very weary of these tiny dogs as most are tiny because they are sick. lovemychi New Member
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DELETE THIS POST IP: 6:35:44 PM 1/31/2006
Thanks to all who have responded - all the input helps to get past my own frustrations. I hate to talk badly of people.....would much rather share happier stories.
I will and always have given Tonya (red jewel kennels ) the benefit of all doubts. Maybe she will come forward and hold up to her end of our deal.
One can never know the outcome or what is the better route for a new puppy, I do understand that. I just wish that she coould have handled things differently and not avoided me. I just wanted better communication so that I could provide my puppy with the best possible care - and without someones help and advice (not to mention prior health records) made it dealing with a very sick puppy hard.
On a happier note - Paris is now almost 17 weeks old and is a spoiled little brat! lol She still only weighs 16 ounces so we are exremely careful and watch her like a hawk!
And yes, I do have all the computer hook ups for my camera. I will try to figure it on and get some photos posted! lovemychi New Member
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Can a tiny puppy ever be a healthy puppy? And if not I guess that brings up a whole different topic. Does that mean breeders selling these puppies that are only weighing in at ounces before shipping are not being responsible breeders? All I can do is take a breeders word if the puppy is ok to go to a new home and give it the best care possible. Like I have said this is my first puppy.I wanted a small dog that could go everywhere with me instead of being locked up at home alone all day, but I definately did not or would not want something so tiny to suffer. I will always give her the best and hope for the best outcome . Is there anything special I need to watch for with these little ones - other than the sugar problems and the obvious? What is considered to be a healthy weight or a weight in which a dog can live a good life free of sickness? PuPzRuS Full Member
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DELETE THIS POST IP: 7:29:03 PM 1/31/2006
I am glad that your puppy is now doing well. I also read some previous posts (although it was sometime back) about this Kennel. They did not sound like very reputable breeders then, and I am sorry that you had to go through so much with your new baby.
We NEVER let a Chi baby leave us until they weigh a minimum of 2 pounds. Sometimes that requires us keeping them until they are 3-4 months old. We don't breed for tinies...most responsible breeders do not. I agree with the poster who mentioned people only wanting tiny dogs. When someone asks me if I have the "teacups" that gets them an immediate refusal of sale. I can't say that ALL Chi pups that are that tiny (less than 1 pound at 12 weeks of age) are sickly...but most of them are. Basically because of what I stated above. To get those really little babies, they are not breeding to standard. Check out the prominent Confirmation Champions...just about all of them are in the larger end of the weight range (i.e. 5-6pounds) and most people don't realise how very small a 5 pound dog is anyway.
You can post about this Kennel/Breeder on RipOffReport.com. Getting the word out will help others in finding a GOOD breeder and not lining the pockets of a 'pups for bucks' breeder that cranks out such tiny, sick puppies. If it was a one time occurance, I probably wouldn't suggest going to RipOff, but this is one of SEVERAL complaints I have heard about this particular person/kennel. They need to be stopped.
Congrats on your little one pulling through. I bet she had a lifetime of spoiling to get started on!! Would love to see your pics... lovemychi New Member
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Very well stated! I will definately go to that site and list my complaints with this breeder.
Although I love my puppy very much and would never change a thing, I would not want anyone to go thru what I have been thru with this little girl. From what I have read, I could still lose her due to a number of different things. I am a wreck every day until is gets a little bigger - infact I'am probably over feeding her in hopes she grows!!LOL Does anybody know if Nutro Ultra is a good puppy food? I would like to give her the best, but I'm not sure what that is.
Pearl - Sorry.....I follow what happened now, I didn't realize I couldn't put the name out there. I just wanted to warn potential buyers.
To any who has followed this post, I left the computer for a bit and came back to an e-mail from another source who has proof of this breeder now doing business under a false name due to the amount of complaints I can only assume? Phone number and everything the same - city, state, just about same website, even same dogs that she still has listed on her original site that is still up and running. I would leave the two web sites for you all to compare and tell me what you think, but I don't think that is allowed.