What I am trying to understand is why the husband always seems to have the final word, in regards to pet ownership and alot else in life.
I have a neighbor who has to ask her husband permission (actually she has to beg) to go out for a night on the town. It's really disgusting. Now I read about husbands telling wives how many pets they can have. I understand the house in which the pets will reside belong to both people, but this "forbidding" a wife to do something just makes me sick! Whatever happened to an equal partnership? Why are men still considered "top dog"?
Well i have to reply...my hubbie says no more dogs and he's the one that ends up bringing them home!LOL!
The last time I asked for a white toy poodle , we brought home a white pittbull! So I'm still waiting on the poodle. Of course i've decided on a differnt color=6ys later! So if you love your hubbie wait for the new addition. I'm still waiting on mine and happily married!
*just incase...And I'm NOT waiting on "permission", I just take my responsibilities as a pet owner serious and my pitt babies will not be rehomed for a new addition so i've been waitng for the right time .considering I have a job,3kids, dogs,livestock ,other considerations + a life.I just want my new poo-baby to have the best when I get her.
***Edited By: duchess on 2/7/2006 7:17:11 AM*** Reason: add
I don't think that is it at all........but it is correct that BOTH parties should agree....I know a few people whose husbands want a motorcycle, the wives say NO. Hubby won't go around it because it would only cause problems. If you can't agree on something together.....it is not a good thing. I told my hubby after Kaia was put to sleep that I wanted another dog, (actually I had already found her), I checked her out and then went to show him.......then she was adopted by someone else(long story) Anyway, we decided to go to a breeder.....NOTE: I said "WE"......my husband knows that I know more about dogs and so he let me do the searching.....I asked him what he thought of the puppy and he liked him, so we got him. If I wanted another dog. I would "tell" him that I wanted another dog and then I would look for one, I would "ask" him his "opinion" on what he thought about each one until we found one that we "both" liked. If my husband was COMPLETELY against getting another dog, I would not get one. Not because "he is boss" but because I RESPECT his opinion. I live with him, and this is half his house too. He has JUST AS MUCH say in this as me. It would be WRONG of ME to just force more pets into his life with no regard to his feelings.
I don't ask permission for anything but this is OUR home . If he brought an animal home without my approval, I would be highly upset. If you had a roommate and he brought a snake home without your knowledge or approval you would be mad too. It's inconsiderate and disrespectful to disregard other people's feelings. Trust me, I would love another dog. They keep me company and I love giving homeless animals a nice, warm, and loving home. But I won't do it unless my husband wants another dog. If he had said "no dogs allowed" then he is out the door. I have four dogs. It's not like I can't have any. It just makes me unhappy when people abandon their pets after years of being together. It's just wrong.
If I did have a roommate and he/she brought a snake or any other animal home that would be fine, as they would be paying half the rent. As long as they took care of it it's ok.
A relationship is a different matter, as I do believe a discussion should occur where both people get their say. I just think it is gross how many women have to ask permission of their husbands. It shouldn't be so one-sided in this day and time.
If my man wanted a motorcycle, I'd say go for it. If I want another dog or whatever he would be cool with it. If it makes the other person happy, then forbidding a person to do so is the inconsiderate thing to do.
Katz ignore Merico. She is trying to bait you into an argument. Merico called me stupid (msg # 39). Don't give her the satisfaction Katz. Merico you asked " And where was it that I said I did, or did not believe in Charles Darwin? " Well you said " Dont dont have "feelings." They dont feel happy or sad. People put to many human characteristics to them." It was Charles Darwin who wrote "The Expression of Emotion in Man and Animals" I will give you a synopsis since the reading is lengthy and you might not understand it. Darwin basically says that animals have emotions. In his book he analyzed the range of animal emotions and found there to be emotional and cognitive continuity between humans and animals. If you still believe that animals do not have feelings then you disagree with Darwin.
Merico I have 4 pets. Four not 5 not 10 and not 30. I bet you have more pets than I do. I have 4 dogs and those are my only pets. Merico how many pets do you have since you are so judgemental of me? Merico it may be more beneficial for you to buy a dictionary and read it versus insulting people. Merico said " Also Darwin talks emotions, not feelings. Which is what this is a discussion about. Feelings and emotions are two different things."
ATTENTION: According to the dictionary: FEELINGS= An emotional state or disposition; an emotion EMOTION = A state of mental agitation or disturbance See Synonyms at feeling.
If hubby says not another animal, I would say stop for now. I am in the same boat, biding my time in a rental until we have the money to buy a home in cash. It can be VERY difficult to rent with multiple animals and it's not fair to any of you.
For once I have to agree with Scary on this one about dogs "feeling". I saw a movie called "Dogs laugh Chimpanzees cry" or visa versa. Anyhow it was something to that effect. It was interesting to see documented evidence of animals mourning death and expressing happiness.
In my opinion they very much feel things and it would be ignorant of humans to assume we are the only mammals with emotions just because we are built a little bit differently.
I just have to say a quick hello to LovingEmPuppies....(again) I don't however agree with how when you gets pissed you seem to forget that you were having problems with issues other members were having and begging to be poked in the eye with my very own spoon.
Hopefully now that I have helped refresh your memory, you can try to keep in mind that everyone has different opnions and they view the world differently.
I agree with Dutchess...Good luck with your poo...its your turn gal...but i agree with your logic and theory...some times you have to wait..I had the last of our hunting dogs after my ex left...and I kept them until old and they had to be put down differnent years...different conditions...but...they were good ol dogs and they had earned there place in our hearts and homes..and after they were gone..I set out developing my program...and if my current hubby had his way...we would have dogs all over...hes just a softie...but when you sit and talk logic...he agrees they need quality time as being treated as a pet, or the amount of work he would have to put into things would be greater......so...we keep our program relitavly small..we have currently 3 female shepherds...one male..and a pair of schnauzers...and i would love to add at times...i have to use logic in my decisions/...and i certainly wouldnt add unless we were both on the same page...we have how ever gotten back into rescuing...in the last few months i have rescued and rehomed 2 shelties...i just feel i bought them more time to get them just the right placement...And both are doing great...so...That satisfies that urge maybe..at least you know going in they are not perminant...
This topic has really strayed from its original content! lol Ok, I have to get my two cents in.
Why is everyone debating whether animals have feelings? Of course they do! What is there to argue? This is just silly.
I have seen my girls display happiness when I come home, excitement when I ask if they want to go to the beach, guilt right after getting into my trashcan, and sadness when it rains and I don't let them outside when they want to go. It's obvious in the way they act and the looks in their eyes. That's just my own two dogs. Just because an animal cannot express in words what it feels does not mean that it doesn't feel.
It is well-documented that animals display a range of emotions in nature. I don't think that animals have the brain capacity to think through decisions and analyze their actions, rather they rely mostly on instinct. That doesn't mean they are void of basic emotions.