I am quite expierienced with a lot of dogs of a lot of breeds (I groom pets and have been to Vet School, before i changed my major to grooming, I also have helped many people train thier pets). I have also worked with breeders of different breeds in training their dogs and showing them. About a year and a half ago, I adopted a pit bull mix. I have had pits in the past, and I love them all so dearly, and I was actually considering a puppy to use in agility and weight pull until I saw he was still at the humane society. I used to volunteer at that shelter until i joined the Army National Guard, and went away for a while. Right before I left he came in, a scarred up body with what seemed like no muscle or fat on the bones with skin, missing patches of hair. The shelter ended up helping him regain his health and he ended up just sitting in thier for a year, waiting to be adopted, but no one wanted him, apparently no one wants an abused pit bull mix. When I adopted him, I understood that he was quite afraid of men, being that that was what had abused him, and quite protective of women and kids, when around men. He is actually the reason, that I am actually waiting another year to get a puppy, although, I would like one now. He was afraid of chains, brooms, sticks, anything stick-like, people wearing boots, and people near steps and windows. I have worked hard to get a few of these fears away from him, and trying to show him that not all men are bad. Here is part of my problem, and I am looking for any ideas at all, or advice or anything: He is VERY afraid of commands like sit, stay, down, come, heel, etc. When I say them, he will cowar and wet himself, because he is so afraid of something. I have tried to train him with other commands, but the big problem with this is that if I am attempting to train him and he is on a leash, he will do the same thing. I know, it is quite depressing that some one could ruin a perfectly good, beautiful dog like this, but I really want to at least teach him a few basic commands. Please help.
have you tried hand commends off the leash? and also food as a treat...that may help a lot. my dog was also abused by a male and he is still skittish around my dad (my dad has to use canes to get around). though he's not a pit and he wasn't in such terrible shape, there was still work. do you have guy friends or a bf that is there alot with you and the dog? it might be good to have a guy become fimilar with the dog and vise-versa. have the guy give the dog a treat every time he enters the house/aprt. and anytime he does something, like comes over and sits or lays down near the guy. that way it's like "oh you're ok...you give me treats." know what i mean? i admit, i don't know much, if anything, about pits...these are only my suggestions and thoughts on the matter....there are other posters that know more about pits then i do.... best of luck!
He has improved since I got him, around some men, as I said I have been showing him not all men are bad. He goes to a lot of places in public with me, one of which is a coffee shop, that allows dogs to come with. Here he is learning and getting better with men, he just really hides from big men, or men that are wearing boots, or that he percieves as being violent, and sticks are still a huge no-no with men. I cannot trust him outside off leash because the neighbors have a cat and he has a huge hatred towards cats. My biggest concern right now is basic commands. All of his training is positive reinforcement, of course, but he is still scared of those certain words. He is alright on a leash, unless I am working on his training, even with treats.
why not try training him inside so he can be off the leash? and then slowly introduce the leash during training...like, after a few days have it next to him, and maybe a day or two later put it on him, but don't hold it...see where i'm getting at? Tell him what your doing too, they may not be able to understand it, but hearing your voice will help keep him calm, and it may help you too. best of luck!
Commands off leash cause him to run away with his head down, tail between his legs, and urinating, the entire way until I find where he is hiding (not really too hard, I just have to follow the trail of pee). I go and sit by him, pet him, and tell him it is ok, not to be scared, using a soothing voice. He gets scared, too when I go to clean up his mess, he runs and hides, or sits by the door with his head down. He is ok with a leash, unless I give him commands, or try to train him. I was thinking of trying to use sign language, but he isn't too fond of sudden or large movements of arms. I just can't believe that he is still nervous with me after a year in a half, I can understand with other people, but he still doesn't completely trust me :(. I was considering bringing him to a trainer, but most of them around here are men, and I know that would definately not fly too well with him. Does anyone know any of these words in other languages? I am thinking of maybe trying that.
Again, Bach Flower Essences should work here. For what you described, a holistic vet recommended Centaury, and Chestnut Bud. Chestnut bud- 7 drops daily in a moderately-sized water bowl and five drops of Centaury once or several times a day. Non-toxic, Non-addictive, available at any health food store. Highly effective. You could even consider alternating Centaury with a third one- Star of Bethlehem-recommended for all dogs coming from shelters.
you might want to try and train him using different words for the same commands. if you speak another language try using the word equivalents in that language to teach him. it will be like wiping the slate clean and sarting all over from scratch. i do not know another language but in shutzhund they use the german word plotz as our word down. good luck
Change the commands. Dogs really don't know what we are saying, we all use the commands because we identify with the word. the word "pop" can mean sit to him if that is the word that you use for the behavior. Try making up a new word for all the behaviors that you would like to teach. Try to find a clicker class. Clicking is an AWESOME way to teach behaviors. If not there are several great books on clicking. For sure you need a positive method of training. Clicking is excellent! I can tell mine "dead dog" and they will all lay on their side head down. Taylor
luvapit ; sorry but i've been off for a while. i've worked with a lot of miss treated pits b4 and know what you are going through. please answer these questions first, please. how long have you had this dog? how much time do you spend with this dog on a daily basis? where does the dog sleep ?do you crate him? where does this dog eat and how does he respond to his food being handled? is he allowed to free raom the yard and house? what is the dogs reaction to the leash walking? sorry but the more i know about the dog the more i can help.trust me, i've worked with worse cases b4 and know the main thing is time and pactince. try this though: let the leash free hang from your dog in a fencd area or inside your house.try a clam soft voice. i don't like the food idea because i would rather earn my dog's trust then trick them into it.sorry but that is how i train my american pit bulls here at home.
Could you possibly try hand signals/commands? Like sign language? I know my pup does what I tell him to just by my hand signals I don't even have to use words. Also as others have said possibly using another language like German like others said. I've seen many of dobermans that are spoken to in German. Good Luck and let us know how it goes!
I have had him for about a year and a half. He is almost always with me, exept when I go to work, so on most days I'll just say I spend 12+ hours a day with him. He sleeps with me, he has broken every crate I have put him in, plastic crates and the metal ones. He has a problem with being kenneled and will break an outdoor kennel too, I think I is maybe from being at the Humane Society so long (about a year). He has seperation anxiety, and he will bark continuously when I am out of his site (the reason he is almost always with me). He will let me take his food from him. He is not food agressive towards any humans, but can be towards other dogs. When we are at my parent's house, we feed him in a separate room from the other dogs, otherwise he eats in the kitchen. He is allowed free roam of the kitchen, but in the yard he has to be tied to a cable. He can't be put on a chain because he is very afraid of chains, too. At my parents house, he has free roam in their yard, they have about 15 1/2 acres. He is ok on a leash when he is being walked, and when we go out places. but if I give him a command even say words like sit, down, stay, heel, come, any of those type words, he gets scared. I won't give up on him. He needs me, and I think he was ment to be my dog. He trusts me, for the most part, but I think that it isn't me, but just bad memories from those words, that he reacts too. I am looking for other words to use, like maybe use words out of a different language for him. I did try sign language when I first got him, I haven't wanted to try that again because he didn't like fast movement of the hands then, and I just don't want to use it now, and possible get a reaction again. When I first got him he was afraid to get brushed, but now I am the only one that can brush him. I have found female dog trainer up here, that we might be able to see in bit. I need to find out what methods of training she uses, and maybe see if she can do private classes before we go to a group class. Some people I know keep telling me that he is too old and this is just programmed in to him, but I will not give up. He is only 8.
german platz = down sitz = sit not much different blibe = rest there really isn't a word for stay because as i was told the dogs are told the one command and they are not supposed to do anything but that until they are told to do something else so there really isn't a need for the word stay. ous = out or could be used for drop it or leave it commands. not sure of the right spelling. mostly used for the word out in protection training but if he knows the leave it or drop it commands already and is afraid of them too this could be a subsitute.