Put yourself in my situation... You have had you two boys (2 tom cats) for over 3 years. They have a perfect life. Then you get a little JRT pup. All is well until one sunny afternoon the pup shows some mild aggression toward the smaller tom cat. A month later another incident but more aggressive (almost bit him BUT cat is too fast) and your pup is bullying the cat a lot! The third time, ( now your JRT is 8 months), your pup tries to grab at your tom cat while making aggressive sounds and scares the living crap out of the cat. YOur pup doesn't bother the other (bigger) tom cat because it's stonger and more dominant. You feel like the tom cat that is being picked on may never again live in peace because of your new pup. The animals are all male and nutered.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?? DO YOU THINK THAT THIS COULD SUBSIDE? WILL DIESEL EVENTUALLY STOP IF HE GETS IN CRAP ENOUGH FROM ME? I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO HELP!
i think that you should just rehome the dog. i am not in favor of rehoming, usually, but sometimes i think there is good cause. since you have got your dog, you have constant issues. it seems to me that you are always looking for reasons not to keep him. always some kind of problem. one thing after another. he's aggressive, he barks , he chews, etc, etc. the dog has went from being kept in the basement, to being left outside. too many dangers for that little guy to be left outdoors, unattended. you say you love deisel, yet you are constantly finding fault in whatever her does. some of the things that you are having problems with are just normal parts of puppyhood. find him a good, loving home with someone that has the time and patience for him and wait on getting another until you can devote more of yourself to one.
Being you seem to have more of a devotion to the cats, probably since you have had them longer, I would try and find Diseal a new home, like Dusty said.
I don't think your 2 cats will ever be happy with him...By now, if he has not learned from you aggression is not OK, it will be hard for him to stop, through no fault of his own.
Maybe you can put him in a home with no other dogs/cats. Diseal probably likes to be a "only child".
I do not like the idea of you leaving him outside to get away from the cats. That is no life for a dog. He will be happy in a home with human contact, maybe in a friends home or family member's where you can visit him?
I hope whatever you do...You and Diseal are happy! Hope I helped. Good luck :)
I'm going to agree with the other 2 posters for about the same reasons. There has been multiple issues with Diesel from day 1. Putting him outside to stay is not the solution. JRT's are not outside pets. I understand your frustration, as my Min Pins are not at all fond of my 2 housecats, but I will not compromise either the cats or dogs living conditions. We have managed to keep everyone in the home and no one has been put out. Just from all the issues you have had with him (common to JRT's by the way) it may be best for everyone involved, especially the cats (lol) that He go somewhere that he can be in the home permanently and no other pets around. This may be just what he needs.
I won't get into rehoming him you've read my comments on that enough.
Because we have dogs and cats, and then intergrated two households of cats into one house with dogs, we've worked through this a lot.
Now I don't have children, don't want them, don't need them so it helps. We have a cat room. It is an area where the cats are NEVER bothered by the dogs. This allows the cats to relax and retreat when they need to.
Next I'd confine the dog more. Get some babygates. I have a ton of htem and some days I could use more. If the dog is getting to the cat and the cat can not quickly retreat to a safe dog free area, you are doing the cat injustice and need to correct the situation.
Your setup needs to be changed. If that means rearranging rooms and furnture and stuff, do it. Your pet means more then your current decorations.
Great advice Icy..I have 3 kids cats , dogs and all sorts of other critters. You must adjust your living arrangements to accomdate your pets if you want to have harmony. Its like a zoo around here and everyone has thier own habitat!LOL! Mine happens to be the computer room! I would never leave Duke where he couldn't get away from our pet duck who happens to think Duke is part of his harem. Let a duck make sexual advances on a unreceptive pitbull long enough and disaster could strike.
So let your kitty have its own space to get away from your dog.
i agree diesel...with icy...gates or sprays to spray on diesel to make him stop...might help in combination...but..if you do feel over whelmed with this dog..whom you have had issues in the past with...then by all means find him a new home....I dont have issues with rehoming..as I have done so in the past to make the best sittuation for a pet..but..I say dont ever stop trying..because all dogs will do simular things..so just getting a new one wont be the fix..maybe a cat safe room will work out good..but keep trying..pets just like kids or a marrage or friendship..they all take work..and maintence..you cant just put everyone in a bag..and shake them out and all perfect...this dog might not come into his own..and be a great dog until hes 2 or 3...so..I say keep trying..and do what your heart tells you to do...
Well, I'm not too familiar with your situation except for what I read on this post and another, but one thing that I thought I would point out...first of all you have a puppy...that in itself is going to cause friction between the puppy and the cats, just because puppy's are very active. But secondly, you're dealing with a breed that is bred to chase and be aggressive, to hunt small rodents, and though your cat is not a rodent he is beginning to practice his natural instincts towards the cat. Most likely he will never change this behavior because he is bred to do that. Doesn't make him a bad dog, its just the breed you're dealing with. They also need outlets for their energy...basic obedience is a good place to start, but also doing things like agility can help to tame a very hyper little dog. What I'm saying is that you may not have the time to give to this little dog who needs a whole lot more than to just be left outside alone. That's why I think its so important to research breeds before we buy them because even though we may like a particular breed it may not be the one that fits our lifestyle. With that said, you will have to decide what to do with him. You alone know your situation and how much time you have to devote to him. Just don't compromise his living conditions or the living conditions of your cats just to make it work, if that makes any sense. I in no way wish to offend you by what I've said, its just advice based on my experience. I had two border collies at one point. Back then I did not know a lot about dogs or how to train them, I just liked the breed...I was an ignorant fool, I freely admit that. My border collies needed so much more than I could have given them. Thankfully they have been rehomed, one to a ranch where he will live out his days herding sheep the way he was intended too. So for me, even though I lost a couple of great dogs, its a happy ending because I know they are happier too.
I have said it before in my other post about putting him in the yard, and I will say it again...
I think you need to take a hard look at yourself and at your parenting. You would do it if you had a child that was needing extra help, so do it now and prepare for your future. Work on yourself. We all need to, I am not pointing fingers here, but I am going to be honest.
Your animals are running over the top of you. You are reacting to every little thing and freaking out. You know what I do when my dog chases my cat? Becuase she does, quite often. I hollar "no" and she stops DEAD in her tracks. She knows that NO means NO. She hasn't always listend so well, but she knows who she has to listen to. I know it takes a while to get to that point, and Beulah is an exceptional dog ;) BUT.... Diesel will NEVER do anything you say until you out-stubborn him and take control. Every thing you do will be a fight and your relationship with him will be torture for EVERYONE.
So.. it's time to take a hard look at yourself. If you cannot be more stubborn, and stronger than this dog, rehome him. HE needs someone who can do this. If you want to keep him around, then do whatever it takes to be in control of your dog. Either route is going to be really hard for you. You will get upset, you will cry and get angry, and all that stuff... because it is a challenge.
It takes time, it takes stubbornness.. you have to win every battle with him. Sometimes, that will really break you down. That's OK, like I said, scream and cry if you have to, but don't give in. If you aren't sure that you can do that, rehome him.
I know, I know, this time it's about cats... but there is always something, and it is NOT about cats, it's about taking charge.
I am certainly not expert on anything, but, if I loved the dog and it sounds like you really love your cats, I would work through it someway. I would, never leave the cats where he could get to them until you are comfortable that they can get along. I had alittle different sitution with Max and Tina. He loves Mandy and Tina could go fly a kite. The vet told me never to leave her alone with him when I was gone. She has learned to stay out of his way and will not go around him when we are gone. She stays completely to herself. Helps alot when they learn to get along themselve. I know this has not been much help but hope you find a solution without having to get rid of Diesel if you really want to keep him.
I have a very similar issue with my Grace, (PitBull/Bulldog). I have 3 cats and she would rather kill our Siamese than look at him. She's really gentle around the other 2 cats and actually really loves our 1 tom cat.
The Siamese would tease her (Grace) when she was a pup and back her into a corner all the while hissing and spitting at her. As Grace got older, she retaliated. She's has gotten ahold of him a total fo 4 times, each time more severe. She's a 100 lb dog, now, so if she wanted to kill him, she would. The last time was the worst. She picked him up and shook him like a rag doll. My Siamese had 2 pretty deep puncture wounds which has since healed. But, next time, he would not be so lucky.
I love all my animals and come to realize they are just that, Animals. Terriers have a huge prey drive. My solution is the Siamese gets free roam of the house part of the day, then he gets put in his room with the door shut and then the dogs get free reign of the house. Everyone has to stick with the plan so there's no mis-commuications. As we got use to the routine, it became pretty simple. All the animals get to be part of the family unit and all animals are safe.
There's no reason why you dog should have to be banned to the outdoors for doing what comes natural. Just a little planning and organization should keep all pets and owners happy.
Diesel, I have to agree with other posters on here. I would start looking for a good home that can devote the needed time and attention for a JRT. Then, if you still want a dog, reasearch the breed fully before you get one, so you won't have to endure this heartbreak again. Did you get Diesel from a breeder, and if so will they take him back? Keep us posted!
That is how we remedied our dog/cat situation as well. Our Pins would not settle and accustom to the cats that are in the house. I had an office that has been redone to be the cats private room. It is seperate from the rest of the house where the dogs are. We changed the office around and moved out furniture to make room for the litter box, toys, hanging toys, and a big cat tree for them to play on. When the dogs go outside for awhile or are in the crates for feeding, the cats are then given the run of the house. Then back they go to their private refuge when its time for the dogs to be out again.....its the only way we could ever make it work here.
Ok, well first what is the relationship like all the other time. If they co-exist fine, then there is probly something that is setting the dog off. Maybe the cat is crouched down, perhaps the Jack Russel is stressed from lack of exercise in the last few days, or has been neglected a bit over all, those are all enough to set off the dog. The clues are that the cat is smaller then the dog, easy pickens. Does the dog sneak up on the cat, is the cat always scared of the Jack. My female will bark and go after the cats if they get to close to her bed, toys, food etc etc. My male co-exsists fine as long as he is not around his full food bowl. So there is a little environmental control going on. During the time that there is peace in the house, do the dog and cat actually get close to eachother without squabbles? Smear some peanut butter on that cat when they are getting along, and let the dog lick off the peanut butter occasionally. HAHA!
***Edited By: sue on 3/31/2006 3:08:31 PM*** Reason: adfbadf
did u not do research on the jrt breed they are small hunting dogs so he most likely sees your cats as prey i would find a new home for the dog before he kills that i had a jrt and a cat and they were raised together from 5 weeks and he still ended up tryin to hurt the cat luckely for me my grandmother has a lot of land and other dogs and she just took hi so i would just try to find him a no cats home
Diesel, I know some people might sound a little harsh but if you only knew how teacup was he totally ran me over. I had let him get away with what ever. and i had to come on here for help i had gotten bash too but it was ok I learn something from getting bash. and guess what it was worth everyminute of it b/c I put bad a** teacup in school like they told me to, of course after getting bash... tehe and now hes so sweet & o/b. well i did tell a little lie in there. hes not all the way there but believe me hes way better than before. My advice to you take the little devil to school. lmao.. they teach them how to get along with other pets at least my doggy school does.
Diesel, I am glad things are workig out for you. This coming from a person who has a cat who hates every living thing except my husband(go figure!) Anyway, Cinder especially hates Asha(our other cat) and she will attack her for no reason. I have NO IDEA what her vendetta is against Asha as Asha is the sweetest cat. But she hates her. We have somewhat worked out a system, she doesn't like getting squirted with vinegar water. So I went to Wal*Mart and bought these small squirt bottles for a buck a piece, I bought three of them and placed them around the house so I could squirt them for whatever they are doing wrong. It works REALLY well. Now, although she still hates Asha, she will more often then not walk past her with her ears flat growling and mumbling at Asha and me. I feel bad for her but this is a 12 year old cat that I am trying to change her ways. If I can do it, you can too!! Try a few different ideas for ways to make Diesel mind, such as try teaching him a 'leave it' command, that way you can stop things BEFORE they start. Also, you can try teaching a 'enough' command, that way you can stop things AFTER they start. If that is not working quick enough by itself, try the water, while still using the command, and you can also try shaker cans(pop cans with pennies in it, etc.) you make a LOUD noise with them but do not throw them AT the dog, you goal is to startle the dog enough to make them stop....that one is harder to do with a JRT. Hope these tips help you a little. Good Luck!! And don't be afraid to post your problems, that is the point. What kind of owner would you be if you didn't ask for help when you needed it?