Have a friend who has a 40lb male dog 14 years old… who has had 3 seizures Since Saturday… ...the ER vet could not find anything...... so the next appointment was to a K-9 neurologist… who did blood work ( came back all fine ) , a general over all health e-val (came back all good /great ) did an X-ray .. and found a tumor.. in the Nasal cavity .. branching out into the Brain…
The Neurologist said .. he did not want to operate.. because of the tumor reaching into the brain…. He suggested radiation and maybe chemo
The tumor.. is meningioma= benign
( not melanoma as previously stated .. Sorry everyone..)
Anyone know of this .. had experience… suggestions… ???
thanks - IVY
***Edited By: IVYdragonN on 4/6/2006 7:42:11 PM*** Reason: .
A melanoma is not benign, hence the radiation and chemo being an option, if not for his age.
Sadly, as scout can tell you as well, when a dog reaches a ripe old age, and especially with cancer, the prognosis is never a good one. Cancer seems to take them quickly, even with chemo and radiation.
So is it like a fatty tumor? My oldest cocker has them everywhere.I started him on a herbal treatment and they have shrunk a bunch! If that is what it is maybe they could do something like that?Tehy would just have to find a holistic vet.I have neevr heard of them being in that part of the dog.I think if it were my old boy I would try the herbs and then if that did not help,i would put him to sleep....
...that is what I was trying to say as well… let him live his last bit in peace.. without .. but the Doc has convinced him that the radiation could get rid of it all or almost….. and the pup could live another 5years…
he starts the treatments in a few days… 5 days on 2 off for I think 17 treatments … plus he’ll be put under anesthesia …
And he's also on Steroids
I was thinking a “really good” surgeon could operate…just needed to find one.. but have never had experience with this.. so what do I know… =(
***Edited By: IVYdragonN on 4/6/2006 7:45:21 PM*** Reason: .
I could never put that old of dog through that.My boy now does very bad under anesthesia.So for my dog I would let him live it out or have him put to sleep.I hope the dog does not suffer.please keep us posted
from everything i have ever known melanomas are malignant. different types of melanomas have different levels of malignancy and metastisis. the fact that it has spread in to the brain says to me it is more likely malignant. but whether it is or isnt , it has traveled to the brain and is now causing severe problems. her best bet if this is something she feels she must pursue, would be contacting a veterinary oncologist. chemo may be an option but IME, it only prolongs the inevitable and the quality of life during the chemo is not good quality.
Sorry to hear about your friend's dog. I don't know anything about the condition, but it sounds to me like this vet either wants the money for all the treatments, or is just sugar coating everything. How many dogs do you know that live to be 19? Not many. I think it's unrealistic to expect ANY dog to live to that age, much less one that has been diagnosed with a tumor at age 14. It's hard to let a dog go, especially one that you've had for that long, but I agree with Icy-just let him be comfortable instead of dragging it out and potentially making him suffer even more.
Boy IVY...what a diagnosis..Im sorry to hear..I hope it works out for the best of the dog..and the owner..it seems like a bad time ahead...I had to put my old gsp to sleep for a siesure disorder that all of a sudden happened..and it was suspected it was a tumor...she lost her mind..became aggressive..didnt know us..and seemed blind too..was not a good decision..but after several siezures in a 6 day peroid..we did what we thought was best...best wishes to all involved..You too Ivy...your going to need to be supportave and strong...what a good friend you are..take care
melanoma is not a primary brain tumor. Usually it comes from skin (melanin) or it can start in the eye. So this dog has cancer somewhere else also, they just havn't located the primary site. Many brain tumors branch out so removing them surgically isn't an option without extensive brain damage being caused in the process of removing them. Chemo is unsuccessful in all cases, it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier. Radiation can shrink it somewhat for a period of time, but its short and not without side effects. Sadly, I would put the dog to sleep, especially at his age.
i cant tell you to "just make the dog comfortable until the end". it is not advice i would take myself. when it comes to any of mine, if there was even a chance, no matter how slight, of having another 5 years with them, i would take the chance. a chance, no matter how slight, is still better than no chance at all and not knowing if you did all you could for your beloved pet. i will keep him in my prayers.
Ivy - 1. Tumors are not generally benign. 2. Melanoma can be very small at the skin but usually has very long reaching tendrils. My father had a melanoma on his ear and cheek. The doctors literally removed part of his ear to get the tendrils there and part of the fatty portion of his cheek to take care of that one. Melanoma is considered one of the most tenacious (sp?) and hardest to treat of the cancerous growths. 3. I treated my Husky/mix for Lymphoma with chemo. It worked for about 4 months. Thought we might beat it, but in month 5 of treatment the cancer over-ran the chemo and we had to make the decision to have her PTS.
I hope your friend is ready for those hard decisions. It is never easy to loose a long time pet.