thought it would be! I just talk with someone that wants to adopt one of my rescues but I didn't like the fact that he declawed his cat. Things like this give me a bad idea about the person. I have to put those feelings aside, I guess and concentrate whether they'll be good owners to my rescues...but how can I? IMO declawing is very cruel!
maybe talk to him about the declawing? when I was little I was scratched by our cat and got a very bad infection from it and had to go to the hospital for awhile, so a few years later after we moved to America (from New Zealand) we got a new cat and my parents had her declawed. 10 years later when I was old enough to know how awful declawing was I talked to my parents about it and they were horrified. they had no idea hat the whole knuckle was amputated, they had thought that just the claw was reoved somehow, they were just trying to make sure thier kid (me) didnt get hurt again. They felt horrible about it and vowed never to have it done to another animal. and they haven't :D so maybe he just isnt aware of what actually happens with declawing. my parents are not bad people, they just didn't know.
i guess i must be a really bad person too for having declawed my cats =(
i think if you are willing to put forth some serious training with the adoptive parents of an undeclawed cat. teaching them how to teach their cat not to destroy their furniture, curtains, rugs, door frames, etc. then you can make it a policy against adopting out to people who are going to declaw. but if you cannot be there for these people who have adopted a clawed cat from you, and are entirely frustrated to the point of returning the cat because it is ruining everytihng in their house, then what good does it do the cat ?
sometimes getting declawed is the only thing standing between staying in its home or being taken to a shelter. if you are that opposed to the surgery try and steer someone who wants a declawed cat towards a cat in your rescue that is already declawed.
It's seen as excessively cruel since they aren't removing claws, they are amputating toes.. Some cats have paw pain for life, some become biters since they have no claws to defend with, some develop innapropriate peeing problems..
So rescues often won't adopt to you if you tell them you will declaw, whether the cat is young or not. Many can be taught to scratch in appropriate places, and if you trim nails like you do a dog it minimizes problems, but not all cats take to doing what you'd like them to do. It's been banned in many countries along with cropping and docking, they have been deemed inhumane.
I'm not a cat person. If I ever had a cat in my house I might adopt a rescue that was possibly declawed when it was dumped.. But I couldn't be responsible for declawing. It's a moot point.. I'll have a zoo of dogs instead, but if someone HAS to have a declawed cat, at least that way you aren't responsible for having done it, and are savign a life.
I never saw it as an issue, and didn't understand till I joined an ontario pet forum that's pro spay/neuter and anti declawing. Sites liek that horrified me.. and showed me what I didn't know. Yikes.
mafiaprincess, i just reread your post about some cats after being declawed have peeing problems and you know what after we had dancer declawed, that cat peed on everything we had on the floor. If we had a cd case down on the floor she would pee on it or a piece of paper or just anything on the floor, only in the office where her liter box was tho but it was getting to be a problem and i took her to the vet thinking she had a infection and they told me no but she had a behavoir problem or something i dont remember now its been years, so i can say that yes declawing did bring on some bad habbits that my cat started doing after she was declawed .The vet never told me tho that it could be because we had her declawed. Of coarse. We had our cat we adopted declawed shortly after we got her, my girls wanted a cat so bad and my husband would only let us get one if we had it declawed he was worried about the leather furniture we just bought. So we had her declawed. Then it seemed with in a month or so she started peeing on things on the floor. I thought maybe she was blind or something and thought it was her box . But did take her to the vet like i said and they couldnt find anything wrong with her to be doing this. Dancer ran away months after and never could find her and we think some one took her, But we do have a new cat well weve had ugg for 4-5 years now and we didnt have him declawed, hes way mellow and doesnt mess with the leather furniture, but does scratch on things but stops when you tell him to. But i never did put dancer peeing on everything to be because we had her declawed?
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I have some declawed(2)..some not(2)..if they begin distroying...they are in for a lazer job..better to have a toe amputation then thrown outside in the elements..or in the pound..and thats what i discuss with the new kittie buyers..its a bad operation..true...but once over..i personally have never had an issue..and several i got done well into maturity..and still no issues...I did have behavor problems with a 18 year old cat..he began mutelating him self...his tail...but..after 3 vets and a cat spacialist we amputated the tail too...his first idea was solitary confinement..what a load of crap..he gave me options..and the next day i made the appointment..and at least he left the thing alone..and he had a year or more to live with out making a bloodly mess all over everything..some times we dont no why animals do things...i still dont no why he did this..but...clearly not becuase he was declawed at say 4 or 5..
I have 2 now who are good with claws..one real good.. the other..she scratches the male up to sheds..but my furnitire and wood work is intact..and we have seperated the cat so my male is safe..i personally would not keep a cat who didnt use the box..may sound harsh...but i value my house too..im not going to gross it out..ruin my carpet or any thing for an animal..I wouldnt let my children distroy my house either..so..its just a choice..id take it to the vet..and then if it still did it.. other accomidations would have to be made..i cant have the mess in the house..I have seen collectors who have litteral turds on the kitchen counter..and boxes where the cats have spattered the walls several feet up the wall..Ill be darned if i let anything close to that happen here...even if my house was not new..i just dont like living like that...and being in food service for so long..i dont even like animals in my kitchen..just my little habits..and we all have our own..but..since i want cats...at times they have to be declawed...its just another of our choices we as pet owners have...and i dont think its fair to judge things with a blanket statement...such as declawing is cruel..it might be a necessary lesser of two evils...just my opinion..
I would never declaw a cat, No one should...I rember this lady once had her cat declaw. she gotten sick had to get rid of her cat... gave it to a lady who then turn around and didnt want the cat anymore so she dump it outside. now how do you possible think that cat was able to defend himself. give me a break everyone whos buy a cat knows this cat has claws and will scratch. I dont even want to talk about it it makes me sick. you dont declaw a cat its his only way of defending himself when in danger. GEEEWHIZ!
Hmmm, well, I think something like that is a personal decision (much like if we decide to have our infant sons circumsized) That said, I had a cat when my first child was born that absolutely would not stay out of his crib. I kept the door locked and she'd sneak in any chance she got, hide until I left the room (if I didnt know she'd managed to get in) I'd return and she'd be in the crib--often times with the baby. I was freaked out because I'd seen home she got in, she'd jump onto the rail, land on the rail and then into the crib....sometimes she'd miss and the claws would come out while she caught herself. My husband brought her to the shelter because we couldnt stop this. Right now we have a cat that had destroyed the side of my couch that (the couch) is just a year old. No sooner did we get it delivered that the cat started. We tried sprays, putting blankets over the edge, even going so far as to pinning contact paper on it so he'd scratch that instead. The sofa is ruined and I'm already saving to replace it. I can't bring myself to bring the cat to the shelter knowing how many cats are there already, but I also dont know what I'll do when I get another new couch!
Having a de-clawed cat would not be my deciding factor in adopting out a pet. It would eliminate a lot of adoptees since a vast majority of people choose to do so.
These cats usually live the pampered life indoors and want for nothing, (Not even their claws)
Now, someone that allows a cat to roam free night and day, coming home full of wounds from fighting, or worse yet, victim of being hit by a car, poisoned, or attacked by an unhappy neighbor, would make me think that a person would not be a good candidate for adopting. This is a lot of time the case with cats with claws. People would rather have them outside than inside clawing their furniture.
Icyhound...the cat and couch are still here....however, we've been married 17 years and this is our FIRST brand new couch. Tends to mean a bit more to you when you've scraped for so long. The cat has not been declawed, I hadn't even considered that.
All 3 of my kitties have thier claws. "My" cat that just died (she was 14 yrs. old) that still lived at my parents' house (old girl was too set in her ways to want to come with me to a new house with 3 rowdy kittens!) was declawed (just front claws). No nerve damage or behavior problems with her. She was absolutely queen of the castle and literally wonted for nothing. She would still "sharpen her claws" (leave her scent) on the couch like she did when she was a kitten. She would still catch mice that got in the house and loved to catch moths and flies. My mother-in-law also has a declawed cat, no problems with him, and he's a gret mole-killer in the spring/summer! I'm not really for or against it, I think it's a matter of what works for your household. Spikus poops on the floor in the basement if Boss is using the litterbox he wants to use, and he has his claws! I have 3 boxes total and clean them every other day, so that's not a problem. As for the couch, I would get a nice looking cover for it, much cheaper than buying a whole new couch, and they come in different styles. Some of the covers don't even look like covers, they look like "expensive" furniture. My cats have a special "scratching area" that has a cardboard mouse shaped box that you put catnip on for them to scratch, as well as what I would call a 2 ft. long 2x4 covered with what looks like a scouring pad, then wrapped in rope, so that they have different textures to scratch.
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let's just dispell a few myths here. cats do not become biters because they have been declawed. they also do not have litter box issues just because they were declawed. in more cases than not, we treat bite wounds on cats who have gotten in fights, not scratch wounds. the truth is no one has figured out exactly what it is that cause litterbox issues with cats. and each cat who has a litter box issue has one for a reason different then the next cat who has one. cats WITH claws have litter box issues. cats WITH claws also can be some of the worst biters.
Dr.Overall, an animal beahviorist with the university of pennsylvania, did a lot of research into this issue and her findings were that there was no correlation between declawing cats and increased unwanted behaviors, such as litterbox avoidance and biting.
if you don't approve of declawing fine, don't declaw your cat. but do not spread around myths ie: lies, about declawed cats to prove your case. not only does that turn people away from adopting clawed cats from you but it also turns away people from adopting already declawed cats. who wants to adopt an already declawed cat from someone who just spent the last 1/2 hour preaching how declawing a cat will make it not want to use a litterbox or will bite you ?
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