Oh my god, tears are in my eyes, no joke. Are you going to have him tested to check for poisens. In case its on your property, or someone poisened him. The symptoms sound like a dog we had in for rat poisen. He sadly died a horrible death. He was seizureing and vomiting blood. For the future, find a reputable emergency clinic, record their hours and services.And in the future demand treatments, at least day hospital care/0bservation. I'm really sorry about the little guy, I'd still love to see pictures of them. You don't see Skipper's to often.
i just came on and read this. sooo sorry dook. i remember last time we talked you said you were moving. and you were concerned about the dogs being comfortable on the trip. i know how much they mean to you and how you love them. its hard to watch them slip away and you feel so helpless. but you did everything you could do. all you could do. i just feel so bad for you and wish there was something i could do to make you feel better, but i know that will take time. here is a poem that i really love. hope you find some comfort in it (((((((hugs)))))))
I Loved You Best
So this is where we part, My Friend, and you'll run on, around the bend, gone from sight, but not from mind, new pleasures there you'll surely find.
I will go on, I'll find the strength, life measures quality, not its length. One long embrace before you leave, share one last look, before I grieve.
There are others, that much is true, but they be they, and they aren't you. And I, fair, impartial, or so I thought, will remember well all you've taught.
Your place I'll hold, you will be missed, the fur I stroked, the nose I kissed. And as you journey to your final rest, take with you this...I loved you best.
This is so heartbreaking! The Vet suspects Warfarin poisoning I suspect with his treatment of vitamin K for your other dog. Warfarin (rat poison) will interfer with body's clotting mechanism causing bleeding of the internal organs. With treatment, death can be delayed for several days, but recovery is unlkely. Like someone said, I would suspect a neighbor or someone else.
Take precautions with your other dog.
Again, I'm so sorry for what you had to go through. I, too, years ago lost a couple of pets due to strychnine poison. Some demented person decided to poison animals in the neighborhood that were getting in their flowers. They were caught and charged with endangerment.
I so very much appreciate the kind words, the prayers, and the poems. (Hi Scout, yeah, it's been awhile, but wow were you guys ever here for me again when I needed you).
The vet had the more experienced partner from the clinic (30+ years, and her boss) perform the necropsy with her, and this Dr. is 98 pct certain it was a form of poisoning, be it rat or even ant.. his liver, kidneys, lungs, intestines, stomach, spleen, and more were bleeding out. He had apparently been bleeding internally for 'some time' before it appeared externally, and before he showed any symptoms whatsoever. Literally, he was his normal happy jumping crazy barking loving self at three oclock in the afternoon that same day.
I think that this young vet learned a lot from Dokker. I also know she has been chastised for not recognizing the signs in the afternoon when I brought him in. She hadnt even thought of toxicity that night until she called her on call xray tech in, and the tech (more experience, 20+ years) said that's what it was, and that he needed to be transferred to the other clinic.
No sense looking back now, and I need to focus on remembering my little guy, and taking care of my bigger guy, Dookie bootie. He is on the Vitmain K just in case, the vet looked at him and saw no signs. I have another appt when after two weeks of being on the vitamin K for a full check up. But, I'll tell ya, if he coughs, I'm heading straight to Appleton, period.
Again, thanks for everything, you all have helped me tremendously through this process. This big old house is much emptier now, but Dook has not left my side since that morning that I came home w/o Dokker.
What an ordeal. I'm so sad for you. It sounds like even if they diagnosed Dokker right away, it was robably already in the latent stages and would have been too late to help.
Do you have a clue where he might have gotten into anything? You said you're in a new house. Do the dogs go in the basement where the previousl owners might have put out poison? I'm praying for Dook, that he didn't find anything, either or its not sitting there hidden somewhere to be gotten into at a later date. I know you probably have already thought of all this, sorry for giving you the third degree. I can't help worrying right with you.
He had apparently been bleeding internally for 'some time' before it appeared externally, and before he showed any symptoms whatsoever.
that can be very true. we experienced a similiar situation at work last month. a dog presented with symptoms not as severe as your pups 2 weeks after ingesting a rat poison. the owners didnt bring him in after they found out he had eaten it because he appeared fine to them. so it may help you to think about what he may have gotten into even a few weeks back as it can take that long for signs to be apparent.
signs can also manifest themselves in all sorts of ways. many years ago i had a dog who seemed to be having problems with his anal glands. was scooting an awful lot. brought him in to work with me and when the vet went to do his anal glands she came out with a glove full of frank blood. further testing revealed he had a clotting disorder. still dont know to this day whether he got into something or if he had an autoimmune disease. at the time i was working two jobs .. a reg. vet office and an emergency clinic. having access to 24 hour care , blood transfusions, etc. still wasn't enough to save him. he was a stray my husband picked up off the streets and we only had him a couple of months.
again i am so very sorry for your loss. even with an immediate diagnosis and treatment it has been my experiences that the outcome is rarely a good one =(
Hey Lal, I dont feel you're giving me the third degree at all! Those are all the very same thoughts I've had. I dont let them in the basement, or any closets or cubbies. I have a dilapitated garage in the back of the yard (taht I'm tearing down..), which he got into once, about two weeks ago, and then from there went through a hole in the big door and got out of the yard, into the alley behind the house.
I literally check on them when they are out every four to five minutes. So, four minutes after one check up, I see he's not in the yard, go out there, call his name, and he comes running up to the back gate near the garage like, 'let me in, mommy, geez, what took you so long?'
Well, Ive searched the garage, nothing. Yard.. nothing. All I can think is that during that three minute little escapade the little houdini got into something that did this. That was the only time he got out, as I obviously chewed out the painter I hired to paint my house, who left the garage door open, which allowed him to get out.
I am confident that this didnt happen purposefully. Every person I know loves my babies, the only neighbor I have has three dogs of his own, and loved mine. If it was dark and they barked at him when he left his house, he'd go, 'shush, guys, it's just me.. giggle giggle'.. so no, he's not the type. I believe it was a freak accident.
Who knows. I'll drive myself crazy if I dont stop speculating. All I can do is move forward, miss and love my Dokker, take it as a learning experience, and keep Dook safe.
And thanks, scout, for taking the time to explain all that, it makes me feel.. well, better, oddly enough.. and thanks again all!
***Edited By: Dookndokkermom on 5/4/2006 4:22:08 PM*** Reason: x