yes i belive she can be broken of it.It takes a ton of time and patience.Im doing it now with my rottie.He used to try and kill any dog now he only shows aggression at the dog classes and then its not that much.He also wanted to kill the cat when I got him,now he just chases him,instead of biting him. Find a behaviourist now
i took him to obedience classes. I never leave the house without a pinch collar.I always have him at a heal and if he looks at a dog in the eyes I correct him.that is a hcallenge.i corect him if he growls or anything like that.Sometimes I use vinegar to snap him out of it.Take her to obedicne classes but make sure the trainer is familiar with dog aggressive animals. Caesar weighs 120lbs and I weigh 100lbs.I foudn a trainer who has trained dogs for 20 years and she has worked with many dog aggressive dogs.He is now doing things off leash with no problems with any dog.Its taken me 6 months to get here though.So it takes patience.She is a typical shepherd with a high prey drive,just like my boy.Dont give up yet! When your pom heals I would let the pom in the fenced off yard and the shepherd on the other side.Anytime your shepherd starts to egt aggressive or hyped up spray her with vinegar and put her in a down.This is what I do with Caesar and my cat. Sign up for clasess
oh my god that is horrible that sadie tried to attack your pom...you must be terrified that something else will happen. by the pic it looks like she really got her good. is there a way that sadie would be able to get to your pom by jumping over the fence? if so be careful of that. by the way that looks like a beautiful garden. i hope that everything works out for you.
She is very pretty! I know you dont give up easy! You always give me support and Im giving it back! When you are practicing with ehr and your Pom make sure the shepherd is on a leash with a pinch collar and you will wnat vinegar around.
oh boy majorlover..im sorry to hear of the fight..I do not know if any thing can help..I have had a few dog aggressive females and frankly I have not been able to change things..I even tried shock collars on both..nothing worked..My girl Inka is in heat now..and Brandy the young one I bought recently they all got along well until one day when she tried to go into inkas run..and they fought...Brandy pushed the dominance issue and she got the cruddy end of the stick..I tried all i could to seperate..even a plastic snow shovel...i ended up lifting 80 pound brandy in the air..and inka grabed her by the thigh and proceded to pull her and I down the run...i got her to stop when i put my foor by her mouth...she didnt want to bite me..that was the only way I got it to stop..it is scary and all I could think of is what if my kids were there instead of me..they might be inclinded to get in there and get bite...and I would hate them to get bite..especially in the face..so..I have decided to sell Brandy...she is younger and easier to place. I will not get another shepherd until Inka is gone...so i will just keep the 2 females i have after i sell Brandy that is..and my male..for us it is the easiest way to get around the issues..i would bet a professional trainer could help..but most of us do not have access to them..so..I wish you luck..my other female shady used to run down one of my mini schnauzers ( not one we got as a pup..but bought and introdued as an adult) and i had to sell her last year or so..It was not fair for the lil one..many times it is the prey drive when they run down the smaller dogs..like your pom..but it doesnt make it any better..the prey drive might be harder to deal with then aggression..I sure wish I had better news Majorlover...my opinion is things will not change and you will need to make sure they are seperated for ever...or the lil one will get killed..I know you love the new one and the pom as well..I know your in between a rock and a hard place..I sure do feel for you..keep us updated...
i also had the dog aggresion problem with my female Chow Chow and my female Shiba-Inu. They were so bad that they would try and fight through doors and kennels, and the fights were definaltly 2 sided. For me it was better for all of us to rehome the Chow Chow, Pippin. They were fine until they went into hear, then all hell broke loose. Pippin was spayed after her heat, but it never stopped after it had started. If your fighting is one sided you might be able to retrain your shepard to accept the pom, but you will never be able to leave them alone.
I would try to talk a trainer, even just on the phone, and since your problems are at home taking your shepherd out for training may not be the answer. A shock collar and vinegar may help at the very least your Shepherd will learn that you are the boss and you will tolerate no fighting but like I said you should never leave them alone outside again.
Were you there when the attack took place? Does your pomeranian ever show aggression or dominant behavior toward the other dog? Pomeranians can be feisty little dogs, and if she 'mouthed off' to the larger dog she may have nearly payed the ultimate price for it.
Shepherds can be very packleader oriented (aka dominant) dogs, it may be possible that the shepherd decided to usurp the current canine 'leader' in the family. Especially given that you seem to be treating the two dogs differently in regards to one being 'your baby'. What are the differences behaviorwise between your attentions to the pom normally and the shepherd, besides letting the pom on the bed? Do you let the shepherd on the bed or on the furniture?
But as has been mentioned, shepherds also can have a very high prey drive. I'm sorry your little dog was attacked, and I hope she recovers :P I'd say keep the shepherd on a leash at all times now and teach her that displays of aggression toward any other dog are unacceptable.
***Edited By: Minniyar on 5/8/2006 5:18:08 AM*** Reason: add
majorlover...I wanted to add..i am certainly not an expert by any means..but..I am going on experence...with over 3 females that were/are unaltered..I know altered ones are different..but at times I think it is prey rive when the other dog is so much smaller..Good luck..
you can tame your shephard but you'll have to have patience. my rottie tried to kill my other dog, so what we did is seperate them for a while with a chian link fencee so they can get used to each other. even though i have had my rottie for 6 months she never got used to my other femlae dog(rottie/dobbie mix). good luck with aggression problems. but you can also geta behaviorist.
So sorry about your baby. I can't really say what to do either except my vet told me to never leave Tina alone with Max. He likes Mandy but tolerates Tina. He has gotten her a couple of times, once right in front of us. She has had to have stitches and it scares you death because he out weighs her alot. My son has gsd and I would watch to make sure she can't jump that fence. He had to fence off a place in their yard and put a taller fence because they could just jump the other one like it wasn't there. Hope things work out. I know its tough when you love both dogs. But I would keep a close watch on that little one.
I agree w/ Huron. I rescued a Shepherd with high prey drive and I couldnt controll the unwanted behavior. He was beautiful and smart with no aggresion problems. He was great with children and other large dogs. But there was no success training not to attack cats or small dogs. He had to be rehomed to a family with no small animals. Some behaviors are genentic and training will be difficult unless you can constantlly redirect the prey drive to another natural behavior. Not the job for a novice. it would be like me trying to train one of my hubbies 4year old Coonhounds not to tree. Something I dont have the time or patience to acheive. Good luck with asolution because she is a nice looking gal!
And minniyar that's a good point. I never leave Napoleon (toy poo)with Duke (pitt) alone because Duke is very sweet and trusting but I'm sure a 6month old sassy mouth could eaisly push a older disabled pit over the edge if I wasnt there to break up a situation Napolean may have started.
***Edited By: duchess on 5/8/2006 11:40:08 AM*** Reason: add
First of all I want to thank everyone for there response!!!!!
My Pom is doing better with a lot of love and care!
Huronbreeze, my husband bought a shock collar tonight, BUT... I was afraid to use it! I know we will try it tomorrow. My husband even says Shadie is a WONDERFUL dog she just has a problem with other females. BUT... we are going to work with her and she now will not be around my little ones!
Minniyer, She has no aggression towards people etc. But I will explain in a minute.
Yorkiemalt, thanks for the yard comment!! Yes it did make me feel better. LOL
What happened was I was mowing the lawn and Shadie (the shepard) follows us everywhere!!! I came by the house by our central air unit and tina was sleeping next to it and jumped out when she did it spooked Shadie and she grabbed her!!! I ended up jumping off the mower to try and get her to stop!!!
She dosn't want another female by us!!!
But she will allow my Husbands shepard male anywhere with her!?!?!?
But today we did discover she is now in heat... But my little Pom is not agressive at all!!!!
She is very small and very well behaved!
BUT... the next night my daughter came with her terrior mix so I could do her anal glands and as she was walking out the door (her boyfriend forgot to close the gate) Missy was just walking out and Shadie tried to grab her!
You have to understand Shadie is EXCELLENT in every other way. She does not like other females by us!!