my mom was petting Caesar just a minute ago and he was licking her face then he just bit her face! He broke the skin and shes at the hospital.He tore right threw her lip! I will not have a biting dog.As much as I adore the dog I am having him put to sleep.No second chances. I cant stop crying. Please help me calm down.I cant stop shaking.
well he is a grumpy dog in general.He has always growled when he gets hot or tired or just out of the blue.He just bit her for no reason.Maybe he had a flashback from his past? I have no idea but that gives him no right to bite anyone.I couldnt see with all the blood gushing everywhere but it looked like he punctured her upper lip and maybe her lower
Im sorry if im not spelling very well.Im very shaky
oh my god....i cannot believe that. i saw the topic and i am in total shock. i cannot even begin to fathom what you are going through right now. we all know how much you love him and how much he has improved socially since you brought him home. he must still have issues from before he was lucky enough to have you in his life. i could not imagine how it feels to have ceasar who you trusted so much with your family turn on your mother like that. i am truly sorry for your loss. i hope that you can be strong through all of this and know that you have made ceasar's life better. and even if this has happened i am sure that he has helped you through some of the things that you have gone through lately.
I just dont know how he could do this.I have gave him so much and have always treated him so nice.He was improving so much.I fel so bad right now.I feel like its my fault...
Will they have to keep him to see if he has rabies? I just want him put to sleep I dont want him to get publicity or anything.Because it is not the breed just the dog.I have to go call my parents and calm down my sister.I cant belive this
Poor Caesar; has he ever bitten you?? I don't think I could muster the courage to have him put down, I would probably work with him and try to overcome this problem but I do understand your dilemma. I have heard of cocker spaniel rage but I don't know what to make of it, some say that there is no such thing and others swear by it and seem to believe that it is colour related, i.e. that only the golden cockers appear affected (a small number btw) and the blacks and blue roans or other colours don't seem to have a high predisposition to this problem. As I said though, this has differing opinions and I honestly don't know the real facts because of conflicting arguments. I have a golden cocker and he is adorable; good luck and hope you are luckier next time around.
Don't blame yourself! Lots of times on this board people have a tendancy to blame the owner all the time. I don't think it's the owner's fault all of the time. You've worked hard with him! You know that.
Thanks for clarifying that Silkypup; here I am ranting and raving about cocker rage syndrome while the dog in question is a rottie, I feel so silly but I just assumed that she owned a cocker because of her nic.
he had snapped at me ebfore when I first got him.I was trying to take a hamburger out of his motuh in the car.He didnt want me to ahve it and he bit my hand.Didnt draw blood but left a tooth print.
I just called my dad.Caesar left two holes in ehr mouth.One in her top lip and one in teh bottom.They are complete holes.IM in such a shock right now.My dad had to calm me down because I was hypervenalating.I have finally calmed down.
They arent going to have to quarentine him since he had his rabies.The doctors are thinking about doing plastic surgery on ehr so there wont be any scars.I feel so bad, it was my fault.This whole week I had felt liek he was goign bite someone.Ive had dreams of it and it was in teh face.I havent got in his face this whole week becasue of that feelign I had.Everytime hes been aorund someone else this week I have been a little nervous.I dont understnad what ticked him off.
I dont think it was the cocker syndrome thing.My cocker boy is sweet as can be.hes blond also.But I have yet to meet a black cocker who was ncie.
Caesar is 16 months old. so young.I dont think anythign was wonr with him medically.This sadly does nto suprise me very much.I have always known he could do that.
I cant stop feelign this is my fault.
Michelle its nice to see you.Im oging to email you.
***Edited By: cockerlover on 5/16/2006 1:20:05 AM*** Reason: add
First of all, hes going through a teenage period, you should have corrected the growling a LONG time ago and never allowed it to happen. Its not the dogs fault he wasnt corrected. This all sounds too fishy to me.
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 5/16/2006 1:25:39 AM*** Reason: I cant spell today
Umm Riley he was correct for it EVERY time! Why would I let him get away with that? I have two younger sibs and I would not let a dog get away with growling.He might be in his teenage stage but if that was Rile ywho did that, your telling me you would keep him and not put him down? If so then I think that is irresponisble
Belive what you want.When she comes back I will show you pictures of her face.
What in the world made you think he was neevr corrected?
***Edited By: cockerlover on 5/16/2006 1:30:49 AM*** Reason: add
Are you taking him to behaviorists? Dogs don't just bite for no reason and their actions don't always mean what people perceive them as....
If you've had a gut feeling that he has been capable of this for a long time, something definately should have been done.
I mean, I don't really know what to say here Hannah, it's a crappy situation all around but Ceasar should not have to pay if not everything was done in the way of helping him through his issues.
By the way, my dog has bitten a drunk person in the face, family actually and he never bites. This person ignored my wishes, picked the dog up, and proceeded with talking loudly in his face while he looked away and stiffened up. I told her to look at his body language and put him down before she got bit, but she wasn't satisfied until she was.
Now noone who has been drinking is even allowed near my dog because he simply doesn't like it and why would i put him in a situation where he is that scared, when it is so easily prevented?
That was lucky though, not even a mark. It is important to learn how far your animal can be pushed and be in control of that and everything else that happens with that animal at ALL times. This is EXACTLY how people end up becoming statistics and dogs end up dead.
He is ncie dog.Everyoen hwo meets him loves him. He has always been undpredictable I wil say that. This dog adores people and especially kids.He just loves to give kisses.But when hes hot or tired he has zero patience.I dont know why. He has been corrected each and everytime he has growled. I think he just didnt like her in his personal space.He has always been kidn of scared of her anyway and I think he felt my energy in the room.because I was nervous of him being inthe room after his 2 mile walk tonight.He was tired after that walk and had no patience.I cant say enoug hgreat things about him.Hes a great dog and is very loving.
Yes we have been to the behaviourist. He has neevr shown any people aggression when hes around the trainer.Even when hes tired.I corrected him tonight for it.
Hes just a dog with low patience
Right now hes in the crate after I had corrected him.You really just have to be around him. Hes a great dog and is very sweet.I was reading his body language and he got tense and was lookign at her with that look he always gives when he growls.She didnt see it.When I was about to say something he bit her.That is why this is all my fault.
He has had a professional work with him for 6 months.
Im not changing my mind on putting him to sleep.The rescues will not even take a dog hwo has bit,especially one who has punctures someones face.If he bites his own family member in the face what makes you think he wont do it again?
I have seen what happens when you give the dog a second chance.I will not do that again.
***Edited By: cockerlover on 5/16/2006 1:44:05 AM*** Reason: add
cockerlover. you immediately talk about having him put down. i can understand you being upset that he bit your mother, but to right away say that he needs to be put down doesnt seem right. if he were my dog, i would want to know why he did it. could me a medical reason behind it. didnt you say awhile back he was attacked by another dog ? maybe he has some muscle or nerve damage and when your mom touched a certain spot , it was painful to him. you did say she was petting him when he bit. i would have him thoroughly checked by your vet and if there is nothing medically wrong, do what pope suggested, and have an animal behaviourist evaluate him. jumping off right away by saying you are going to put him down, is unfair to him. could be something that is preventable in the future. maybe put off getting another puppy and concentrate on helping ceasar first ? jmo
Ok, so you're telling me that my dog that bit my boyfriend drunk aunt 2 years ago (he is now 3) and hasn't bitten ANYBODY since, should have been put down? This dog loves everybody, enjoys being with other dogs, cats, you name it... Just happens to feel extremely threatened and unsafe around drunk people.
I hate to tell you, but no. My dog and everyone here and living our lives just fine. He hasn't gone crazy for the taste of blood and killed anybody.
As an owner, I am glad you are taking some of the blame for things escalating into what they have. They depend on us for how well behaved, fed, loved, cared for, and secure/safe they are.
But again, your decision. I would hope that if this is the end for ceasar that you wouldn't be thinking of getting another dog for a long time until you can better educate and "train" yourself for dog ownership. Or at least educate yourself on handling GSD's or whatever breed you decide on. You said yourself you don't want this happening again.