i know it's beating the dead horse a zillion times, but i was going through this website that has all these "---poo" (designer dogs/poodle mixes) pics and it just breaks my heart.
they all just look like the same crappy curly haired terrier looking dogs no matter what mix they are; and leave it up to idiots to totally make beautiful breeds like dobermans and shibas (yes shiba inus for chrissake) look like big fluffy clowns. not to mention labs and boxers too!
The Poo-Shi is not a pure bred dog. It is a cross between the Shiba Inu and the Poodle. The best way to determine the temperament of a mixed breed is to look up all breeds in the cross and know you can get any combination of any of the characteristics found in either breed. This hybrid cross is recognized by the American Canine Hybrid Club.
at least they are bright enough to call them what they are ........ mixed breeds.... not designer ...not rare ..... mixed !!
not only is it an ugly mutt that looks nothing like a shiba, it probably has that typical shiba attitude, yes you are here, but do I care, and I really don't care if you are calling me I'm going any way.
Ruffian, I am not saying that I agree with xbreeding but I do have to admit that some crosses are gorgeous provided that they are not part of a puppy mill background. I hate puppy mills and I would love to have the opportunity to be able to get hold of those that run such macabre establishments and throw them in those small cages 24/7 and see if they're not going to lose their mind after a short while when all that their life will be consisting of is two small corners and nothing to do for months and years on end!!!
Having said this though, if a byb breeds small and keep a couple of breeding bitches and a dog inside as part of the family and raises a litter or two I honestly have to say that there is nothing wrong with this and more often than not you get a healthy pup that is well reared and with a great personality.
I could sense the nastiness in your reply; I don't think it is necessary to refer to that dog as an "ugly mutt." I don't quite agree with such a cross and I do think that the majority of designer dog breeders are breeding large scale and should be classified as puppy mills and that is wrong in itself but give the poor dog a chance besides which it is far from an ugly mutt. I bet you wouldn't dare call a purebred dog an ugly mutt....fair go.
Okay fine then do you like the word mongrels better is that not as offensive?
I am sorry, but anyone selling their dogs as a designer breed, is not breeding for quality dogs. Dogs are not designer, you don't get one because it matches your furniture. And a BYB is not a good term, it is no better than a puppy mill, just smaller, scale. Kept in the house or not, they are breeding dogs that should have been altered and never bred. There are so very few, well I have heard of 1, breeders of these mutts that care enough to do health testing. And that is what they are is mutts, unless it is regestered with the CanKC or a parent club, in Canada at least, it is considered a mutt and illegal to sell it as anything else as per the CANADIAN ANIMAL PEDIGREE ACT.
And further more I have showen and bred Shiba Inu, and have never found a cross that is cute. I find it appaling the lies that poeple will say just to sell them to others not willing to do the research. There are so many in shelters that there is no need to cross breed them with anything. Shibas take alot of fortitude to keep, they don't listen they could almost careless if your there, they will be happier to see a stranger then you almost everytime, kinda a blow to the ego there, LOL. But dang they are cute litlle buggers when they are puppies. I swear to god I talked more people out of getting them then into getting then, and why??? Because I tuely care about the breed and where they end up, very few people should ever get a Shiba, and I know that goes for every breed.
***Edited By: ruffian on 5/21/2006 5:44:41 AM*** Reason: z
ruby; it is not about that particular website. that one page just happened to have pictures.
i have seen ads recently selling shiba x poodle mixes (it was also obviously in a small pet shop cage); if u talk to any shiba owner who knows and loves the breed, u know that they do not like it at all.
as well if u talk to any lab, dobie, boxer, etc owner who loves their dog for the breed, i am sure it is distasteful to them to see that "their" breed is being turned ugly (to them, of course)
yes, all dogs admittedly are cute in their own ways but like i said in my first post, a dog being a mutt is one thing on its own, but when people start careless breeding any given breed to other breeds just to "make them not shed, BUT STILL HAVE the personality of a lab, cocker, dobie" is stupid. when u have a specific breed u truly love, don't u love it for the way it looks as well as its personality?
if no one felt this way, why do we have differnent breeds? we might as well just all have curly haired mutts.
***Edited By: ntki on 5/21/2006 7:29:12 AM*** Reason: ...........
Puppy mill back ground or both parents AKC back ground bred in your house is still not a responsible breeding program. It still adds to the pet population. Though if it werent for 2 AKC poodles having my prescious Napoleon that ended up in the petfinders.com classified ads I wouldnt have him blessing my life. So I dont know how adamant i can get with this topic because maybe I'm contributing to BYB by adopting Nap?
What I just love, and when I say love I mean it as sarcastically as possible, is when breeder's get really creative with their wording. Nobody's going to pay hundred's of dollars for "mutt's" so they started with these other term's like "Hybrid", "Cross breed" and just plain cutting and pasting with sound's from breed name's. IE-"poo", "Pom", "oodle", and the infamous "Mini". wow.