I know I said I wouldn't gt anymore pets but they offered my dad a horse for 3 piles of dirt.The guy din't want the hosrse any more and said he would kill it. My dad said he would take it. So I need to know how tall the stable should be. Right now the horse is at the guys house until me and my family build a stable. And any info I should know. And do any of you any sites or info on putting horse shoes on? Thanks for your help:D
Hey schoolbus gal here, Been doing the horses alot longer than dogs! If you live in a hot climate like I do,Texas, you will want your shed to be pretty tall to allow heat to escape. Mine is 10 feet tall open on the south end and vented well. It is quite comfy in the summer heat due to the high roof and southern breeze blowing in. Mine is 10 X 25 feet and a 10 X 10 foot section is seperated for a feed/tack room. It is framed 4X4's and covered in galvanized sheet metal(be careful of raw edges.) it was very cost effective and at the time I worked for a homebuilder and the guys came out and put it up for me. I've been here 7 years now and through small tornadoes and not so small thunderstorms it has prevailed! A horse needs no more than a 3 sided wind block with a roof, feed once a day hay and fresh water. A companion would be good and I have a donkey I bought cheap at an auction to keep my filly company. Horses are the most beautiful animals on Earth. I love my dogs too,so don't get me wrong! Good luck and enjoy the horse
I normally don't shoe my horses unless we're racing, showing or doing a lot of work; unless there is corrective footwork that needs to be done. But, if you do choose to shoe your horse, find a good farrier. A bad farrier can ruin a horse, so be sure to get good referrences.
Also, check into getting a west nile vaccination right away. Just had mine boostered a few minutes ago. Our neighbor became very sick with West Nile last year, so we're really watching everything here.
I agree-horses are such wonderful creatures. I've had them all of my life.
Also, like Schoolbus gal mentioned about the pasture buddy. Here's a link to an adoption site for horses, etc... http://www.equineadoption.com/ They usually have a pasture buddy just looking for a good home.
schoolbusgal ...... i'm confused by your post. is the three sided windblock used only in case the horses can't be brought in from inclement weather or are you saying that is all they need 24/7 for .... lack of a better term ... housing ? and about the feeding. do they just get hay and water or do they have other food like grain and stuff they are supposed to eat also ? how about supplements ?
myshadow how come shoes don't have to be on horses unless you are working them ?
i'm just curious because i don;t know anything about caring for horses. thanks.
Scout, for the casual riding that I do now, it's really not neccessary, as their hooves will absorb enough of the shock and they hold their form great. Right now, they spend a lot of time in the pasture, grazing, so they're really not needed unless there is a hoof correction that we need to do. During this time, I usually just have the farrier trim and balance them and it works great. Balancing is the key, if they are balanced, then they wear evenly and it helps prevent cracking and uneven wear. It really depends on the individual horse.
When I used to show, I'd get different types of shoes for the types of work or event I was doing. I had more of a traction shoe for barrel racing, a slicker one for reining to give more of a slide on a stop, and a good all purpose one when we were working cattle.
Now on the other hand, I also will use leg supports depending on what I do. For everyday general fun riding, I usually only use a bell boot, as my thorobred will sometimes catch his front feet. For working cattle and barrel racing and reining, I would use split boots, bell boots, or sometimes a combination boot for added protection. So I think of shoes more of a 'tack' issue for what I need them for.
I also overflow our watertanks for a good mud hole for them to stand in when it's dry to help moisturize their hooves. I've never had to worry about thrush doing that. But, if it's really, really raining and muddy for a period, then I'll check for thrush.
As far as your question to Schoolbus gal, it just varies. With the feeding, we have to be careful since they are on grass with the types and amounts of grain they get, otherwise they can founder easily. It's important to keep a salt and mineral block accessable for them so they can get the intake they need. During the winter when they are in from the pasture, we do add more grain back into their diet as they are on alfalfa and prairie hay.
As far as supplements, I see it like the dog issue. If you need it for arthritis or a certain condition, then by all means. There are supplements that we used to give when they were working, but now one is semi retired and the other is just hanging out, so we don't supplement, besides the salt and mineral.
***Edited By: myshadow on 5/24/2006 9:47:38 AM*** Reason: add
I know there's alot of folks that pamper their animals..so let's not get offended by this answer. Horses need a 3 sided wind block to get out of incliment weather. They do quite well outside as God intended for them to live. They do not need suppliments unless they are in extremely heavy training. A good feed will be what they need with the hay. A horse that is not worked can be fed hay only and this is sufficient. If it is a pleasure riding horse, 4-5 pounds of nice horse and mule are all they need. it has been my experience in the 37 or so years of riding training and showing horses that the more you pamper them, they more prone to problems you are going to have. Unless the horse is tenderfooted, there is no need for anything other than a nice trimming of the hooves every 8 weeks. Wormimg paste every 3 months and West Nile VAccinations are a must however..... More on this when I get back to the computer.....
The fact that the horse is free. Remember things are not always how they seem.. You need to take into consideration what existing problems the horse may have, are you gonna have a pre-purchase exam done? even if you are not buying the horse its a good idea to have DVM look it over before taking on the responsibility of ownership.
Are the proper test being done? I know that some states it may be all, however I have only been through 2 but some of them require a health certificate, Coggins, West Nile etc.
When I was young my horse trainer offered me a horse, and my parents had the proper things done, and it was deterimined that the inproper shoeing, and nutrition, it would have been too much financial responsibility to take on. They are very expensive, and you just cant dropp them off at a shelter... I think they are way more dependent the dogs or cats...
Look to the advice of others that are here or maybe around you that can give a clear more decisive look into it...
A three sided wind block is not enough. I don't know anyone that hasn't at one time or another had an injured horse that needed stall rest or a sick horse that needed Quarintine. You really should never attempt to keep a horse without a proper barn. Not only for those reasons, but you'll also need a dry place to store your hay and keep them out of bad weather. Horses are hardy creatures, that is for sure, but just because they can survive outside in bad weather, doesn't mean they should.
Hay alone is not an adequate diet. Even the best hay (depending on where you are from) is going to be lacking nutritionally somewhere. Talk to someone at your local feed store about the hay in your area, and what you need as far has supplementing your horses diet. You'll also want a mineral block, and of course fresh water everyday.
Yearly vaccines, worming, and tooth care is also very important. You will need a regular horse vet to visit and discuss this with you. They will tell you what vaccines are necessary for your location.
***Edited By: Honey1 on 5/25/2006 8:44:29 PM*** Reason: add
Yikes...I said a horse NOT BEING WORKED needs only hay.. this is true. what the heck do you think they eat in the wild? grain is not a natural food for horses. and anyone who feeds alfalfa hay to a non working horse either has it growing locally and that's that standard fare or too much money on their hands! Down here in Texas we have to have it shipped in from CO or AZ due to the blister beetle problem with OK alfalfa. It is running about 12 bucks a bale and if your horse is a pleasure riding horse you run the risk of a founder, or colic. When the spring green grass comes in, I can cut my horses grain in half otherwise, she gets too fat and then you can also run into navicular problems. Let this person enjoy their horse..Hay a 3 sided shelter West Nile vac and someone to love it.(either human or other) That's what a horse needs. We Americans go so far overboard pampering these animals. they just don't NEED this much, and in my opinion, weakens their natural abilities to survive.
Schoolbus is right on the money, from shoeing to feed.
We had my ex husbands childhood pony when we got married. His older siblings are 50'ish.
That horse lived 47 YRS!!! and he still fought to the bitter end!
He wasnt pampered by any means, and he HATED being in his stall. He would stand out in a blizzard with snowballs hanging off him and rage at you when you brought him in and be a snot in the stall after you got him there.
He didnt have his sheath cleaned until I met my ex, (as I worked for a vet and was trying to impart some wise vet proceedures to help this pony get up to date)
He was a cranky paint shetland pony who loved to drink pepsi and was wormed by Lucky strike cigarettes cringe (dont worry, I got him on some worming paste too!
In the end, he was almost toothless and got a warm bran mash and beet pulp feed. He was standing upright till the day he died. We had to force him to eat the last week and he hated that too. We agonized over the decision we were going to have to make. Lucky did it for us.
Neighbor called to say Lucky had fallen over in the pasture. It was february. I looked outside and was on the ground.
I got a blanket, called my husband and the vet and covered him up to keep him warm.
I held his head and talked to him as he departed. It took two injections to put him down, he was the strongest horse I ever met.
We couldnt bear to send him to rendering, so we rented a backhoe and buried him in the back.
That horse wasnt pampered one bit and hated if you did try to be extra nice to him. Crankiest horse I ever met. He never coliced, never foundered. Never got sick. Ever.
We have friends who have friesans who have more health problems and vet bills than I would have ever imagined. Those horses are extremely pampered.
*sigh* I miss Lucky now.
***Edited By: TraumaMamma on 5/27/2006 1:54:20 PM*** Reason: .
Not being a horse owner (have never felt up to the financial responsibility of owning one of these magnificent creatures), I do have to ask about things like hoof trimming, even if the horse isn't shod, monthly wormers, and all the other unexpected expenses that can crop up form strangles to cholic?
I grew up on a horse farm. Generally 10-16 horses at once. My grandma had been a vet tech pimarily working on Standardbred race horses from about 1955-1970. Our horses were and are wormed every 3 months or as needed and trimed every 6-8 weeks in summer or 8-10 weeks in winter.
They didn't and don't have any shots except tetenus (sp), and the coggins for the ones that show because it is required (which is a joke in our area).
We don't show that much, just local open shows and the fair. If we are lucky they leave the farm maybe 10 times a year. In 30 years the only time we got strangles was when a boarder bought a race horse off the track that came with it.
We generally keep our horses until they die (unless they are mean). We only had 1 die under 20 and that was because he was born with a birth defect and he lived to be about 16 and the others lived well in to their 30's some 40's. Never any problems with colic that required a vet, just a bottle of pepto and a few hours of walking.
Since my grandmother died my darn mother has foundered a few of our ponies because our spring grass is rich. Plus she keeps them way too fat in general. They get grain 2x per day (but the don't NEED it by far-- they wouldn't die with out it), hay in the winter. They all have box stalls and a lean-to. They at least need something to block the wind and snow, but that is all they NEED.
We only had teeth floated on one pony once, and that was because she needed it. It does NOT need to be routine. I am the only one that cleans sheaths (another reason I hate geldings) and that is only when I think they need it, every year or two, if they look like it is dirty when they are peeing or if they are peeing stretched or slow.
Horses are not house pets. If you just intend it to be more for a pet and enjoyment and not super competitive show, they do fine with minimal 'extra' care.