my parents would get involved if thats what the breeder wants.

And no I dont understand rehoming dogs because its convienient.I have never done that.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being interested in 'thousands of breeds of dogs'. I like numerous breeds myself.

But Cocker, I have personally seen emails that you have sent to a breeder that does not seem like you were *just* getting information. You led this person on for numerous emails, making them take time out of their lives to help you because they thought you sincerely were interested in one of their dogs. And even if you don't ask to be on a waiting list, most breeders assume you're interested if you bring it up. So unless you're interested, it's probably best not to even bring it up. I just don't feel that that is very fair to do to people. You talk to people like you want this breed, not just that you're interested. I think that's why people have a hard time taking you seriously. You don't have to be deceptive to show interest in things.

***Edited By: Huntersmom on 5/26/2006 3:59:09 PM***
Reason: ...

sorry you feel that way.At the time I was seriously interested in buying.

But like with afghans I dont want an unaltered dog because the hair isnt right if they get fixed.I also want an affectionate dog.The books I read on the mall said something different.So since I emailed a breeder and found out more about the breed,it doesnt fit what I was looking for.

Now none of this matters anymore because Im not getting a dog,my parents might and Im not finding a breeder for them,they can get on here and do it themselves.

And no I dont understand rehoming dogs because its convienient.I have never done that.
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Had no intention on making this personal, but now that the statement was made.................

If someone would be so kind to link for me.........you have stated I believe in the Caeser post the list of dogs that you have owned whom have been rehomed, PTS, returned, whatever and said it was your parents decision, that you have no control over what they do......that is my point. That is why the parents are gotten involved, because they are ultimately responsible.

NEVERMIND, I stand corrected after reading Icy's post I now see where you guys are coming from. Ignore my post please.

***Edited By: Blackqueen8 on 5/26/2006 5:06:26 PM***
Reason: Removed my post

Don't even drag me and my breed into this


In your third email to me about afghans you wrote:
Icy, Could you send me a copy of your contract and garuntee or is it on your site? I also prefer the up to be older than 8 weeks before coming home.I have looked at different breeds and I thought the Afghan would be best with my attitude.I dont wnat another dominit dog and I like the independent nature.Do your Afghans like the water? When we move I will be feeding all my dogs raw,would that be Okay with you? Where are you located? I want to pick up the pup no shipping.Is that okay? Soemthing I'm confused about is that I ahev read that when you spay or neuter the dog that the hair on their face and tail does not stay short? Is this correct? I rented a ton of books on afghans and I'm doing more research on them.My parents will be home all day and I will be home after school.I have my own grooming business here in Indiana so I do know hwo to take care of the hair.I know they need conditioner,what do you recommend? I have already started saving money for the pup.I really like Symphony's and Day's colors....But like I said it doesn't matter that much.Can you explain what CERF tests for?I have heard about it but not sure what it is.

Cockerlover,now you know who I am. Hope you dont mind me asking about your pups.I am dead serious about all of this though.

And I responded:
Chuckle thats fine. I'd prefer for you to check what
you where buying before you buy.

CERF tests are for the eyes. Some breeds are prone to
juvi cataracts and its just to clear their eyes of it.
Juvi cataracts pops up before they are a year of age.
You can have a regular vet check, but the CERF is
just to register your dog as clear.

I'll attach a copy of my contract.

I also match temperments with people. If you don't
want a dominant dog, I won't sell you one. I match
temperments with people and I will not place the
incorect dog if I can help it. And they are all
independent, even the super clingy ones.

Water + coated afghan hound dosent always work. Some
like it some dont, depends on the dog. Mine like mud
puddles.

I'm in northern VA right where MD/VA/WV touch.

Afghan Hound coat patterning (smooth
saddle/neck/face/tail) are harmonaly controled. When
you alter them they loose the sex harmones that create
this unique patterning in the breed and go back to
their puppy coat. Fuzzy from nose to tail. It tends
not to be as nice a quality of hair as well.

Day and Symphony are both brindles. I really think
the coloration is spectacular, espcally when they
reach adulthood. Right now the popular color is the
solid creams or black masked creams. I pick the best
out of what I have, regardless of color.

When any breeder has a litter you want consistancy.
You want it to be hard to pick which puppy to keep
becuase they are all nice puppies and shine through.
When there are only one or twic enice puppies and the
rest are crappy you are running a risk for diamonds in
the rough and thats not always good if you are looking
at a genetic future.

and then your 4th email said:
Thanks I thought you might be a mad. LOL I wish Caesar's parents had been CERF tested.He is having eye problems and knee or hip problems. Do require the pups to be spayed/neutered? I would do fix them anyway.I love dogs with in independent nature....I have two right now.If they are fixed will they still have the longer silky hair on the body? I like the creams but I like the brindles better.I was reading the standard and they said white spots are not accepted.I noticed Piper has quite a bit of white.I was just wondering if they liked water because we will be going to the lake alot.Thiso ne breeder I contacted sold the pups for more money because of colors.Like the blacks or creams were $600 and the brindles or blues were $900 is that odd? My ideal puppy would be confident but not dominit.When I move our dogs are going to be outside alot but not because we make them.They will ahve their own room with a dog door to go out in the backyard.i plan on spending a ton of time outside so its not like they would live out there.I could never do that.I read that sight hounds in general are very sensitive with your voice.Will it breaks its heart to peices if I tell it no in a stern voice? Sorry for all the questions,I would have asked other breeders but they arent very "friendly" and I know you!

to which I responded:
Sighthounds are very sensitive to your voice.

When I found out who it was I had mixed feelings, I
still do to an extent, but I understand (or feel that
I do) why you chose to approch it like you did.

I don't require my dogs to be fixed and frankly I
don't recomend it. Their coats are a nightmare, they
don't look like afghan hounds even clipped it just
dosent have that clean look, and frankly I don't feel
there is a need to alter a dog when you are a
responsible pet owner. The coat will grow long but it
won't be silky and managable like an unaltered hounds
coat is.

White spots on the body and white face markings are
not allowed. White chests are accepted, as are white
toes. Some dogs, like Piper do have a ton of white.
I don't care for it but it dosent take away from him
as a dog so I deal. Its not something I am selecting
for however and I don't plan to keep any pups from him
with a lot of white.

The charging more for colors is done by many. I
don't. My pups are priced by pet or show and that is
that.
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So don't even drag me into this. I tired to be nice to you. I was enraged when you told me who you where but at that time I was still willing to give you the benifit of the doubt and attempt to be a friendly supportive person. So I didn't scream at you I didn't rail at you and I didn't even freaking mention to people what you had done for days until I thought it over.

You keep saying "I didn't mean to hurt anyone". You need to work on your concepts of what is and is not hurting. You did not hurt me. You did irritate me and waste my time.

These are complete copies of the emails, I only removed the address information.

And let me copy paste this post made by Cockerlover at another forum...... and we are to believe this inquiry is for someone else? I dunno.



My parents may want a dog later down teh road but my mom has already said it has to be something thats not known as a guard dog or a dominit type dog.she said she would wnat a very well bred newfie,boxer, or st. bernard.

Rocks make GREAT pets, when your ready to re home them just throw them in your yard.

Stormy ROFLMAO.. Holy gosh that was funny.

Are there any breeders of pet rocks.. ?

Warning Off topic!:

Hey Icyhound you are from northern VA! Me too!
It nice to hear a fellow sighthound owner in the area!
Hey can you repost your website again?
Thanks!
Anyone else from VA? :-)

There are many great pet rock breeders. I am one. 5 easy payments of 99.95 a month and you can own the whole collection!

stormy,

I'm interested in a "rock-poo"! Do you have any of those?

i quit "breeding" pet rocks awhile back. i gave it up because they were too lazy. they sat around and did nothing. its like they were always "stoned". they all found good homes except the "pick of the pebbles", for which i kept.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/dusty082155/petrock.jpg

I have rockapoo's, rockabull's, rockastone's, rockabolder's ect....

If I don't have the "hybrid" you need I'll breed it for you at no extra cost!

i have several in my yard behind my house. does that make me a "backyard" breeder ? lol

Lol!

Stormy, where do you house your rocks? They're not in kennels outdoors are they? Because rocks should be indoor pets only ya know ;)

You just may earn "Breeder of the Year"!

Oh, my neighbor has poo they'd like to breed before it's neutered! Interested in any free stud service?

My pet rocks are housed yes outside! They are in 3 foot by 3 foot kennels. Cleaned 4 times daily. I have 1 male and 1 female per kennel. Once they have mated the male is removed and placed with another female. After the rockies are wheemed (sp?) another male is placed with the female. Rocks can be bred over and over again! They are the perfect money making pets!


Sure Yorki! How large? What color? Personlaity?

Just curious, why does altering a afghan change their fur? Sorry, I like to find out interesting facts about dogs and Icy is always posting things that are new to me. LOL...sorry to bug.

Stormy, I'm going to report you as a rock miller! Doesn't sound like you OFA your rocks either. Did you know that rocks have a lot of cracking problems? Bet you don't test for that, do you?

=D LMAO