sienna, let's pose a hypothetical situation to get you to understand how inappropriate your advice is.
Let's say Max gets out. Being that the vet said he is over weight and that he's got a luxating joint, someone decides "This poor baby, I am going to lie to the owners as he is clearly neglected and unloved."?
Think about that for a minute before you answer....
telling them they had a wrong number and keeping the puppy is STEALING! Sure it's cute and cuddly, but it's not your's! Lets say Momma got loose, and someone spotted her; she looks like HE** still, she needs to get her muscle tone back, and is still about 5lbs under weight and, the scar around her neck will never go away. If a starnger were to pick her up they would have no clue about her past, and that I was trying to do the very best for her. Instead they assume I'm a horrible owner and decide to keep her. So think about it.
pope1982: Max is not overweight. He weighed 8 pounds two weeks ago, he now weighs 7. Pomeranians sizes vary. So please, don't bring my dog into this and talk about crap you know nothing about. I saw online somewhere pom sizes varying in size from 3-9 pounds. According to the akc its seven pounds, but in reality it varys. I do not appreciate you bringing max into it and saying he is overweight. He isnt, Thank you very much hes fine. and his luxating patella is a mild case.
This lady found the dog and rather than leave a tiny chi on the streets she took it in. It's up to her and I will not judge her for it.
Yes but I don't neglect my dog, and leave him outside. My dog doesn't have scars, and has never been left on the streets. You can't use that comparison when my dog is well looked after. I'm not going to argue online.
And yes I am a child, all the more reason to leave me alone!!
Excuse me. I didn't say I would walk off with a dog, infact I'd just call animal control. I wouldn't touch a dog on the streets, but this lady did. And she said it was in harms way on a busy street. I never said I'd do the same thing. I'm thirteen years old, so dont accuse me of being a bad person, when it was the ladys decision not mine. And my old vet did not directly say "Max is overweight". He just wanted me to switch him to an adult mix for science diet when he was 6 mo's old and I refused. He's too little for that.
"Being that the vet said he is over weight" .. You said this, not me.
***Edited By: siennalovesmax on 5/28/2006 10:40:57 AM*** Reason: Add
And I do apologize, because when I just read it...it said that your old vet said he was overweight. I thought your new vet said he was. Never the less, I have an exceptional memory and I remember the bulk of the people on here and what pets they have/what is going on with them.
Regardless, I was trying to see if maybe you would understand being put in somebody elses shoes being that it wouldn't be fair for someone to keep your dog because of the reasons in those threads. Noone knows you or your dogs past and Max doesn't look abused or neglected, Just like that puppy doesn't.
Which leads me to believe, someone is missing him, somewhere.
Chihuahas are house dogs and if they are left outside filthy I too would be concerned. I understand where you are coming from, but try not to look at the woman as mean/evil for taking a puppy. She thought the people had been deported, so we'll watch the issue progress. And my old vet was ridiculous, it's why I switched.
i dont see where pope was being mean towards anyone. she said the same thing alot of others did, including myself. if you are going to pick up a dog off the street, and take it home, then you need to exhaust all avenues of finding the owner/s, as the dog can not return home on its own anymore. also, the dog that was found had short hair. it was not matted and unkept. as for being dirty ? its a dog. they like to dig, roll in dirt, poop, mud, dead rodents, etc. if theres a way to get dirty, they will find it. so saying the dog was dirty, means nothing. there could be any of number of reasons as to why those dogs were loose. dosnt mean the owners allowed them to run free or are not worried sick, discovering they are gone. bottom line is this. the dogs came from somewhere. and if it were any of us here, and our babies were out there somewhere ,lost to us, we would hope that the person that found them, were doing all they could to find us.
To the original poster, I hope you never find one of my pets!
Everyone gave alldogslover a horrible time when she rescued a dog off the street and left another. Although she spent time trying to find the original owners and still hasn't placed the dog up for adoption. This is ten times worse. They're trying to steal someone's dog! That is completely heartless. If these dogs got out, you don't know how long they may have been lost. Look at the situation with Jimmy. He's a beloved bet but has been missing for two weeks. Of course the animal is going to be dirty and have a couple of scratches on it. It doesn't mean it wasn't loved and properly cared for. Do the right thing and contact the proper channels. Do all you can to find the original owners before you say "finders keepers, losers weepers".
It's probably someone just like this holding Vivi and refusing to give it back to the rightful owners. Just stop and think for a second how you would feel if someone did this to you.
You should call animal control to go and take care of the adult dogs, and tell them you would be more than happy to keep the baby because you felt the living conditions were unhealthy and as a first response you took her back home. Animal control will probably let you keep the baby if they see she is being well looked after, as for the people, if they call say "wrong number" and let animal control deal with it. ------------------------------------------------- Unbelievable! Just as you said that no one knows about whats going on with your dog, you have no idea the story behind these dogs. Maybe they were indeed left behind. Maybe they had gotten loose and wandered and are not even from that area, since she claimed no one knew who they belonged to. The appropriate thing to do is to search for the true owners and give it an honset effort in addition to making sure the other 2 are safe as well. You arent a 'rescuer' when you choose to only take the cute dogs from the road side that you plan to steal and keep. Thats theft, not rescuing.
If Max got loose, and someone found him and decided, awww he's cute, I'm keeping him and will lie if the owner comes around. I believe you would be heartbroken. Same difference.
The snotty adolescent attitudes lately make me truly believe the admin. needs to consider increasing the age limit on this forum.
debg, I would appreciate it if you would not address me anymore. I want nothing to do with your posts since you've gone off the deep end and started treating everyone else like you are better then them.
I really enjoyed reading your posts in the past. I felt for you when your dog passed. And again, When you said someone was prank calling you. Enjoyed pictures of the new dog and I've even defended you in other posts because I liked you and felt you were being treated unfairly. Apparently, I was wrong. Lesson learned...moving on.
Your opinion in this matter, means nothing to me because as usual you feel the need for some reason, to stick your snotty nose in and make somebody the bad guy. I called her a brat because of the way she snapped at me when I was trying to explain to her where I was coming from. I was not being rude and I was sharing the way I felt from my heart only to be snapped at and talked down to. Out of curiousity, what would you say she responded like in the situation? A caring, understanding adult?
I apologized to her from where I misunderstood and it has been worked out.
In closing, I will be polite and not say what you appear to be IMHO. Thanks.
***Edited By: pope1982 on 5/28/2006 5:46:53 PM*** Reason: ...
Good grief people, instead of picking on children, try someone your own age. Like me, I can handle myself. But just so you all know, I when I called animal control, they said there is nothing they can do unless the dogs r dead. I told them the malre was mean and tried to bite someone, but since they have holed up in someones yard, and the people either aren't home for the weekend, or god forbid been deported, animal control will do nothing. I will be going over there again tonight, if no one is still home, I'll leave food and water, and call animal control again.
And another thing, tell me of one person on here who hasnt had one of those kind of days when nothing went right, and you felt like crap. I had a million different things going on with my health and the 8 kids in my house driving me insane, and I found a puppy, would have saved all 3 had they let me. But tell me many how many have you thought one thing when in one of those kind of moods, tried to talk it over and get help, and then calmed down finally, and said gee what an idiot I was, and try to fix it. So when you can be perfect and make all the right moves, then I'll apologize for having a bad day.
***Edited By: starlight_2901 on 5/28/2006 8:29:27 PM*** Reason: *
Starlight, you didn't say you were having a bad day. But you planning to out right lie when the proper owners called, if they were to find your note. Assuming that is even the original owners house. I understand having a bad day, but it doesn't mean you have to spread the bad luck. If the local animal shelter doesn't care, fine. But you still should post signs and contact the local vets to see if they know of anyone missing a chi puppy. We've all had our share of tough times, but I wouldn't want to cause anyone else any heartache. I know losing a pet is extremely painful and it's even worse not knowing what happened.
As for Sienna, I have no issues with her. She's a sweet, mature girl. But I do understand what Pope was saying. She made a very vaild point and I just think Sienna read it the wrong way. It's easy for people to misread how something is being said online. Plus, when I was younger I tended to take things the wrong way too often. Heck I still do now sometimes...LOL!
Anyway, I just hope you do the right thing. Karma truly does come around. If the rightful owners due step forward I know you will be rewarded for doing what was right.
Oh, and don't forget to take the pup to the vet. Their just may be a microchip.
***Edited By: blackqueen8 on 5/28/2006 8:43:57 PM*** Reason: added