I know there are foods out there that have more 'quality' ingredients, but then you are paying 2x or more per bag/pound. I am choosing to go a different route and suppliment each dog individually with what I feel they need, and I personally have good results with Purina.
I feed 1-2 times per day depending on the dog/pup. I am really anal about it. When any one, including husband and kids want to 'help' me, I say 'go clean crates or pick up dog poo. Do try to help me with feeding'. Every one gets a certian amount, and they all get certian things added, even if it is just meat, egg or corn oil.
By the way my very nice AKC inspector who showed confirmation for many years recommended corn oil for shiny coats and to actually help dogs with demodectic mange issues.
If I were to change, it would still be to go with Purina, probably Pro-plan, but I have the same problems with that as most 'health' foods that it isn't as palatable (sp), because I have tried a few bags of that and it is dry and pellet-y.
Ali, actually, I mostly only buy organic food. Once in a while I go off and have some chips ahoy or something, but for the most part, I try to stick with food in which I can understand all the ingredients. Its not that expensive either. Sams Club carries LOTS of organic food here... juice, veggies, salsa, waffles.. all kinds of stuff. I only buy organic produce and fruits, and try to stick to all organic meats. Found a butcher here thats only organic and he's not too pricey. I don't eat doritos because of the msg, they make me sick. Though they taste great.
I do this because I have a cousin that was recently diagnosed with ALS. The doctors sent him home with a year to live and no treatment. So his wife decided to try a holistic approach to treating him. All organic food, lots of vitamins, etc. In the matter of a month, he now has color back in his face, he can walk better, and is not losing anymore muscle mass. And the bloodwork that WAS off the scale a month ago, is now all normal except for one thing, forget which. So I've decided if taking care of yourself by eating right can so drastically help him, I'm going to eat healthy too.
And your dogs do look beautiful. I'm a big fan of boxers myself.
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 5/30/2006 9:49:11 AM*** Reason: add
Is Royal Canine and Sensible Choice the same thing? I feed Sensible choice , but in a tiny box on the very bottom it says Royal Canine...... just wondering....
By the way, My boxer eats Purina dog Chow. We have tried to switch her, but she hates everything else and gets so awful looking, So we gave up. Well, our female cavalier is 6 months old and weighs 6lbs 5oz. She has been very scrawny looking and all of a sudden she started looking great, filling out, But wasn't eating much of her Royal canine.. Well come to find out she had ripped a hole in the Purina bag and was helping herself to it . Now she is back to looking scrawny. When I mentioned this to the vet, she said well, if she eats well on that and on nothing else feed it to her...but for now I am sticking to the RC. I think she is holding out because she really liked the RC when we first got it.I just think she liked the taste of Purina more. Its sad, I worry more about what goes into my dogs mouth than what goes in to my children's mouth... LOL
Thank you every one for the compliments on my girlies. The best thing about my babies is that they are as nice acting as they look.
Jomas3-- I completely know what you are saying, Boxers are a whole different box of chocolates. When I weaned them off canned mixed with dry, some got so skinny that I really was scared that animal control would be called. That is when I started to wet every ones bowl with hot water and put it in the micro-wave for a minute to soften it.
When non-dog friends watch me add all this crap, then water, then heat it in the micro-wave, then stir it up and give it to them, they think I am on the moon (by the way right now that is 15 bowls at night and 7 bowls in the morning).
Alicat....love the pics, pretty girls (see our Purina does work *sticks out tongue*) lmao.
I dont feed the Purina Dog Chow, or basic Purina Puppy chow due to its mostly all meals and fillers. But I do swear by Purina ONE, I used the Sensitive Systems (salmon based) , the Puppy Formula ONE, and weight Management ONE (when needed). Ours do great, and that is what I send my pups home on. I have sold dogs to people who are feeding another brand and wanted to 'wean' mine to their brand, but once they got home, they write to say the dogs they have at home want the Purina ONE and wont eat their own anymore, and mine wont touch theirs, lol. It usually turns out that the buyer ends up switching the househole to my brand and I get a call back months later to tell me how much better their dogs look now that they switched them.
I'm not saying that the other brands Candidae, wellness, chicken soup, etc are not good foods. They are great foods, but if you consider the results...If I can get great results from a food that costs half, why not?
So, I'm not against any of your brands, I just like mine. Just as Filet Mingnon and Lobster are very expensive, but I dont eat them, I'll stick with ground beef and chicken, but I'm still healthy and shiny, lmao.
***Edited By: lpn169 on 5/30/2006 3:00:02 PM*** Reason: add link
well as i said earlier that my animals eat purina but i do have one question my cats shed so bad i know they shed i have always had cats i know they shed but they shed really bad could it possibly be from the purina food oh the cats are short haired
Truthfully, it's possible that the reason your cats are shedding so badly is because of their food. We also have a couple of cats that roam around our crazy households (both strays that I picked up as a teenager - one I actually found stuffed in a mailbox during a blizzard and she had pneumonia (sp?). We fed Meow Mix, Cat Chow, you name it, for years and the shedding drove us nuts. I switched them to Eagle Pack about a year ago and was like "WOW". They've been on Felidae for about a month now and even less shedding.
We pay attention to shedding with Shelties :) so it's one of the reasons I really like Super Premium food.
And the difference in what we go through with the cats on a Super Premium food is nuts. We were going through 20 lbs of cat food every 3-4 weeks with 2 cats. Now, it's 20 lbs every 6 weeks.
I don't think any one should be shoving their dog food they feed down other peoples throats . If it isn't broke ,then let it be .My nieghbor feeds his Boxer Beneful ,and Punch looks healthy and beautiful. He doesn't look any better then my dogs who eat Canidae and Nutro Natural.The reason why I wouldn't fed Beneful myself is because I bought a small bag one time for a emergency ,I ran out of food. They became so gassy and diarreah all over.I'll stick to what i'm feeding for that reason.I would never tell Tito that you have to feed Punch a better food,it's rude and again he looks the same as my dogs and feels the same.I begining to believe a lot of it is hype to get people to spend more money.
I have the same problem with my fat cat Boots shedding a lot and I think I'm going to switch their food too. I read on a love my cats forum yesterday that the chicken soup brand would help and also to feed more wet food than dry... thoughts on that anyone??
Animal, if your cats like the dry, stick with it. Its better for their teeth. And Ch soup is a good brand. My cats have done very well on it. Coats are alot softer, they eat less but are full (don't yell at me as much lol), stool is better, and less shedding. Teeth are looking nice too. I have them on the light formula and noticed they are losing weight slowly but surely.
With 3 cats I used to buy 2 big bags of purina a month. (whatever is the biggest bag they sell, not sure the weight). With ch soup I just buy one big bag a month. But mine have been spoiled with canned and get that too. (I'm telling ya, don't start the wet! its expensive too)
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 5/31/2006 8:02:13 AM*** Reason: add
~~~rednosedred~~~I don't think any one should be shoving their dog food they feed down other peoples throats . okay that is fine, I don't think you should tell your neighbour about his food, but the OP asked about our thoughts of purina. We in turn responded with them good and bad.
I think alot of info that you get from webpages about food is BS, but that is me. I, personally, made my decision to switch from pro-plan to solid gold because of her allergies. We all feed what we feel is best bottom line.
Weather you choose to fed purina and add stuff in to balance the diet then good for you, if you want and can afford to go ahead.
But I really don't think most of us have been shoving our opinions down anyones throats. With the exception of riley, she really got fired up about ingredient, LOL, but like I said until I see dateline video of what is going in I have to think they are following guidelines.
Solid Gold was/is prodced in mexico, I know alot of people refused to feed it for that reason because they dont have the same regulations as the US. It boils down to personal preference.
I crown riley, as the TP Pet Food Connoisseur'!!LOL!
This is just a dissusion board and just because someone talks smack about food dont mean you have to listen. I'll feed what works and what I can afford. Everyone else can send me a check in the mail if they want to help out my poor nutritionlly deprived dogs. Not all dogs are allergic to corn and not all dogs do bad on purina. I dont personally feed purina but if I did and it worked so be it . No need in someone to list the ingrediants because that wont change my opin. if its affordable and keeping my dogs healthy. If you afford to buy the food that you do (which ever it may be)and are happy with it then more power to you.
And I HATE it when people say "If it ain't broke...". I didn't realize anything was wrong with feeding a lower quality food until I switched and saw the difference in my dogs. I THOUGHT they did great on a lower quality food. I reconsidered that when I saw the improvement they had on a better food.
And the whole sob story line about "my pocket book" is crap as well. I'm SAVING money by feeding a Super Premium food. It costs more per bag/per pound, but I'm spending less per month/per year because I'm not feeding a much food. Plus, my dog's teeth are cleaner (I don't have to take them in to have them cleaned), they shed less (saves the vacuum cleaner), and I've been able to take everyone off of supplements (I was using skin & coat supplements and had a couple of glucosamine for joints). So it works out that I'm saving quite a bit.
I was right with all of you a little over a year ago. I didn't want to admit that I wasn't feeding a good food, because I was afraid to switch.
You don't know the grass is greener on the other side until you GET to the other side...
And I do think Riley knows A LOT about dog food. I've also done a lot of research over the last year and she's dead on about a lot of things.
And I've said it before - I have a unique perspective on this. If we really want to get down to it, the Sheltie I grew up with ate Gravy Train... Looking back, I can pretty much tell you that he had a slow death by Gravy Train. We didn't realize how much of his problems in his later years could be traced back to a cruddy food...
And I don't think I'm shoving anything down anyone's throat. You're a big person, you can make your own choices. If you feel guilty about feeding your dogs food that is close to garbage, that's not my problem. But I'm entitled to share my experiences (which is what my opinion is based on).
***Edited By: abbylynne on 5/31/2006 9:17:55 AM*** Reason: add
Well, Riley honestly believes what she is saying just like every one else and I respect that. She feeds herself better than I feed my family. Nutrition and additives are something she feels strongly about.
I will let every one in on a little secret. I know people on here may think I don't care for my pets as well as others, because I don't feed holistic food, and I don't go to the vet every time they sneeze or have diareah.
I AM CHEAP. Not just with my pets though. I am cheap with MYSELF, with my husband and kids. Just because I am frugile (sp) doesn't mean that I don't love something any more or less than any one else. I haven't been to the damned doctor in 3 years. My dogs and kids have probably been 100 time in 3 years.
I bought $150 worth of clothes for myself at Kohls LAST YEAR. I went to the movies maybe 3 times in the last YEAR and once was free through my husbands work.
I eat hot dogs, processed this and that, pop, and WHITE BREAD. I don't buy food for my FAMILY unless it is on sale, or I need 1 final ingredient to make a meal (and that kills me when I have to buy it full price).
I buy my dog toys for the YEAR the week after x-mas. I go to walmart and buy up all the left over dog toy stockins for 80% off and spend $100 and probably get 500 toys and brushes. The dogs don't care that they are chewing the squeeky out of a reindeer or a hedgehog. My treats are old roy beef flavor-- but I buy about 30 pounds a month and then I always have them on hand and I am not a treat nazi when the kids a giving them out all the time.
I truely do what I feel is best, and I choose to buy a less expensive food and suppliment each dog as needed. Millions of pet owners just feed the green bag of Purina dry and call it good. That doesn't mean they love their dog any less. I feel Purina OK for most dogs-- is it the best, probably not, will it due for the level of activity of most pets? Yes.