We just got our Siberian Husky on Saturday and are sooo in love with her. Except at night!
I admit that we did not do a good enough job introducing Casey to her crate on the first night and as a result she cried, howled, clawed and threw herself into the cage door for four hours straight.We had the ticking clock covered in a blanket and all that. We tried ignoring her, then sleeping on the floor with one hand in her cage and she just kept flipping out. I was really afraid she would hurt herself. We eventually took her out and I slept on the floor with her.
The second night it was the same thing. My finace and I were so sleep deprived that on Monday we kept her out in our bedroom and she did fine. No messes or things chewed. She cries now just when she sees the crate.
I am thinking about bringing the crate into the family room, where we spend the most time, and trying to have her spend more time around it, put a treat in it and have her toys in it so she has to go in whenever she wants one.
Invest in ear plugs. How old is the pup? Stryder cried from day one in it. Would put him in it anyways. Would have another crate by bed and one in living area. Got used to being in there and still being around people. Gave him treats and stuff.
Every time you let her out of the crate for making a ruckus, you are teaching her that if she makes enough of a fuss, you will give in. She's training you well :P This is *not* a good way to start the first steps of your training with your dog. PUt her in there and leave her. Never let her out when she is making a fuss.. This is a HUGE no-no. I'm sorry but the noise and yelping is just part of owning a puppy and you've got to make it 'over the hump' so to speak.
During the day, put the pup's food and water in the crate so she has to go in if she wants to eat or drink, so she has favorable experiences. Do not give her any treats at all unless she is in the ccrate, and even then don't give her a treat unless she is sitting quietly and calmly. At night take out the food/water, you can leave a chew toy or something in there to distract her.
As another option, youc an put her in the crate, and every time she screams or cries, you say "Quiet" firmly and can squirt her with the stream from a water spray bottle in the muzzle. For dogs that love water (like my lab) an option is to add vinegar to the water and squirt them directly in the mouth (again when you say quiet) when it's open yelping, the taste and smell is high offensive to dogs.
***Edited By: Minniyar on 6/28/2006 2:17:33 PM*** Reason: add
OMG that would drive me crazy. Thankfully my pup has never given me a hard time about being in her crate. It's portable and I take it everywhere with me, including to bed, so she is next to me mostly all the time. Every now and then she will bark and whine a little when I first put her in there, but when she does I just ignore her and after a few minutes she will stop. I know your husky pup is alot bigger than my yorkiepoo, but if you can I would get a portable crate and take her in your bedroom at night with you. Whatever you do, don't give into her and take her out when she cries. Eventually she will stop and if you keep her close to you she'll feel at ease. I'm sure you don't want to lug around a crate all the time, but I don't think you want to sleep on the floor forever either... :) good luck!
they have to adjust to not having a pile of puppies and warmth to sleep with and be with. they really are quite scared, but you can't give in as others have said. i have also given the crate a bang to make a loud noise to get quiet. puppy yell *bang* puppy yell *bang*; not too hard but enough to be unpleasant. and, on some nights with my lab i had to put her in the basement and me sleep upstairs with a fan on so i could get some sleep, even if a short night.
Casy 26 you have to outlast your pup's will to run loose in the house. I agree with the others. Don't give in. The tantrums will pass and she will begin to realize that the crate is her very own place. She'll actually begin to spend time in there because she likes it if you leave the door open during times she's allowed out of it. Giving her treats and toys in it is a big help. One of our dogs actually had to be stopped from pulling the sofa cushions in his cage. He put his little cushion on the sofa and thought I wouldn't notice :)
Having tried to crate train a Siberian Husky, I know what you're going through. Riki is 20 months now and still not crate trained, but we have no problems with her. She has slept on the bed with us since she was 9 weeks old. She trained us well the first week we had her. lol She has always whined to let us know if she needs to go out, and other than the occasional odd sock, hasn't chewed up anything. Raja (my white sibe) has chewed herself out of an airline crate and collapsed a wire crate to get out. We had to get a heavy duty one for our houdini because she gets out of our dog run.
You really just have to ignore it. When I first got my puppy Penny, she barked and whimpered a cried too. It's heartbreaking and I just want to go down there and hold her or let her sleep with me but I know her training will be ruined if I did that. Eventually she gets the idea that at night, she's going to be alone. Just don't make you leaving such a big deal and leave her in the crate for a littel bit and ignore her for a while before you actually leave and turn off the lights. Give her tons of affection during the day and try to wear her out so she'll want to sleep!
Hi Casey, Ok here's my opinion and what I have to say about crates,kennel whatever to keep your animal from being free.
Put your self in your puppies shoes, would you like to be locked up? When you sleep on your bed, do you have gates around you keeping you from moving around? or even getting up if you want? Are you in prison, in your own home? I know these are things to think about.
Anyways, I know allot of you will have something against me saying this, but this is what I think.
If your puppy or dog, goes to sleep at night and don't boather you, why put them in crates, kennel or basically in prisin? It makes no sense, think about it. Why can't they go sleep on their bed with out being inpricinment. Dogs and other animals are already in pricin to begine with, we take over their lives, weather we keep them as our pets or kill them. They are not the owners of their own lives, why make it worse.
If you love your puppy and want them to feel free, then train them properly.
They way I see it, if they do something bad, then put them in the kennel, that would be a way of punishing them for doing something bad. Then they won't do it again, but it they do it again, punish them again, it's like when we punish our kids for doing wrong things, we take away their favorit toy, put them in the room.
Why not train your pet to do the same thing, and yes they are not humans, but come on, why take the easy way out. You wanted to own a pet, so now comes the hard part, training them to be good without having to put them in kennels.
I have a Timneh Congo African Grey and I have a cage for her, but I do not close her door, it is constantly open and that is her haven, because it is OPEN, not LOCKED UP. She is a free bird, and does what ever she wants, all she does that I don't like is poop all over she where ever she goes, but I have no problem cleaning it up. The point is she is free. When she does something wrong and she knows it I put her in the cage and close the door for a little bit, then I take her back out and she stops.
I just can't bear the thought that a puppy had to endore kennelsf, when they don't even do wrong things, please, that is punishment to them, weather some people believe it or not, that's the way I see it. And I know there are other's out there that see's it the same way. I have spoke to a few of them who agree with me.
bekahsa has already made up her mind without ever using a crate. Her loss. Informed people, who have both used crates and not used them, are wiser and know better, instead of speaking about info they've 'heard' from others instead of experiencing first hand.
If you've ever come home to find half your wall chewed away, or a table that suddenly has no legs, or your bathroom door has a hole in it big enough to drive a tractor through because your beloved pet has chewed on it. while you were away from home... Explain to me how this is cheaper and safer (especially if you are renting!) than just putting the dog in a wire crate with a few favorite toys and keeping him there while you are away from home and thus are unable to supervise him?
You can't control what your dog does when it roams free in the house when you aren't there. Thus, you can't prevent it from doing dangerous things, like eating the surge protector or chewing through the cord for the microwave oven or chocking on a table leg... explain to me again how this is safer? What do you say to someone who's had this happen? Oh well, gee, sorry he died whle you were gone and you left him loose in the house, but it's still great that you didn't crate him becuase that's unnatural even though it's been proven otherwise.
I just wanted to comment on crate training in general. It was the best thing we ever did for Mason, and it helped amazingly with potty training. He now knows to "go to his room" and does it happily. He sleeps in his crate through the night and he is in there when we're not home. I know he's safe when he's in his crate.
He's not a husky and I am unfamiliar with the breed, but crate training worked for us personally and Mason.
I do have a question though and I will apologize in advance for my ignorance on the topic, but from all of the books I have read it says that dogs see the crate as their "den" and a safe place. So, why is it hard to crate train some dogs? Just curious.
Putting a puppy in a crate is no different than putting a baby in a crib. Until they are capable of behaving in a way where they are not a danger to themselves, the only responsible thing to do is to confine them. Keeping them safe is not imprisoning them at all. For most dogs this is the only way to ensure their safety.
Casey26 - You have to decide whether the crate is right for you and your puppy. Are you going to be leaving the pup home alone inside? If so you need the crate. My white, Raja, took right to the crate but kept chewing out. Once we got a wire crate she couldn't collapse, she's fine. She doesn't like to have it covered and likes the openness. She hated the airline type crate. I wasn't able to train Riki to the crate. See prior post. And I never even tried with Romi. In cold weather they all curl up together, unless they can sneak on the bed. lol
Sibes are very pack oriented. You are the pups new pack. If everything goes well, you will be the new alpha. That is what you want to happen. Your pup probably wants to sleep in the den with the rest of the pack. You have to make the decision about that. Once the behavior is allowed, it's hard to stop or change. Huskys are very hard headed, but smart. That pup of yours will train YOU to the best of his/her ability. ;) lol
I might give into a crate if I have too. I will end up with one puppy and if I go out and can't take her with me, then I'll put her in a crate possibly, but that day hasn't come yet. But I'll make sure I don't leave her there for long period of hours. I'm going to have to train her one way or the next, so the crate might be a good thing to invest in one day.
But I still don't agree a pet being in a crate for over 4 hours though, this is my opinion.