sienna....actuality IS a word, but not sure why you thought that is was necesarry to attempt to piont out a word you thought was incorrect....
Cute picture.....I like all the dane colors myself. But in many breeds, some colors are harder to place than others because they arent the 'well known' color, or not as flashy as others, and many people want colors that they think are unusual or unique.
Huh. If I was to get a GD, I would want black, blue or brindle. I don't care for the Harlequins. The fawns are what I usually see. Saw a Boston marked Harlequin once. Did that color ever get approved for show?
Harlequins and mantles aren't rare, at all. They are just harder to produce, sometimes. Usually harlequin x harlequin breedings will get white pups, which are usually deaf or blind or both. So, people will breed a mantle to a harlequin, reducing the chance of getting deaf/blind pups, but that also reduces the chances of getting harlequins.
Just thought I'd say that, so when someone is trying to sell "rare" colored Danes, it's a scam. When people have "brindlequins" or "fawnequins" it's not a rare color. Those are unaccepted colors and are USUALLY the product of someone not knowing how to read pedigrees, or just in it for the money. There is no rare color in Great Danes.
Mantles ( boston-marked Danes ) are accepted by the AKC now, and can be shown. Merle still isn't accepted as a show color, but merles can be in other AKC events.
I think all colors of Danes are the same height, none are taller than others. It depends on the dogs though, some lines have bigger Danes with the big droopy lips, and those are usually bigger, I guess you could call them Europeon looking Danes. Some lines have Danes that are slightly smaller, and don't have big lips. Some people call them "American" Danes. I think? Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
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Our Dane, Laredo, has A LOT of European Dane in him. His grandpa on his mom's side was a direct import from Germany. He's from Von Meistersinger lines. Have you heard of Ransom De Von Meistersinger? That's his grandpa..
Laredo's lips seem to be getting bigger by the day!
Blacks ofany breed are the last dogs to be adopted from shelters. They often just aren't as popular coming from a breeder either. I've found blacks out of a black x black breeding often tend to be smaller. And merles aren't that popular right now. A breeder I think very lowly of but know a few people who keep going back to her just got 13 merles and 2 harls in a litter. Harls were gone from day one. There's still something like 12 merles to place, so she often sells them at a very reduced price since they aren't showable and some people do think less of the. Though my first dane will be a merle or a brindle.
The Euro-danes in America are much cheaper. The Danes that I am referring to are generally in Russia. The only reason that I would have a dog shipped from there is to get some pure bloodlines, not the ones mixed with American danes. There really is a big difference. Yes wet-mouth does refer to the big, long lips and lots of drool! I have 3 dry-mouths and 1-wet-mouth that is part Euro-Dane.
I think it is by specific breed on the color poularity. In the Min Pins, the balck/tans are more popular than your traditional red. Pugs the fawn is more popular, but still many folks want the blacks since not alot of show breeders breed them.
It reminds me of our local shelter here. It is full of black labs. The yellows and chocolates always get adopted, but for some reason no one ever wants the blacks. I'm guessing it is because they are so common.
A black thrown from blacks often creates a smaller more americanized dog. Smaller frame, smaller head. Lower end of the weight scale, smaller jowels.
Thrown fro ma harl often gets a larger frame, higher weight class, and more commonly the bigger jowels. Doesn't 100% hold true or anything, but depending upon what you'd hope to have your dane look like it's something to keep in mind.
Not to sound stupid, but I don't understand that. There are usually harls in a black's pedigree. I don't see why the black babies would be any smaller than the harl babies? Especially if the black was mis-marked, with too much white on it.
I've seen blacks bred to ONLY blacks for many generations that are huge. Some people will breed the blacks to a fawn or brindle. I saw that today on a very reputable breeder's website. A gorgeous pup from a black x black breeding ( I think..? ) that was 38" at the shoulder. I know you said that it's not 100% true in all cases, but every black I've seen was as big, if not bigger than a harlequin.
I'm not a breeder, at all. So, if I'm completely wrong in my thinking, I'm sorry.
It's just something I've noticed lately. You don't sound stupid. I've been finding black to black breeding creating dogs that are looking more like overszed labs than danes anymore. I assume it's crappy lines than colour or anything, but it's something I'm more wary on. I would never want a dane with that not jowley head. You know? And it seems more common from a black x black breedign than anythign else.
On a dane board we were talking about in keeping colour groupings how it's isolating the gene pools. That might have something to do with it.