I have heard of them... and seen two of them. The woman I met at a agility trial has 2 rescue White pugs, she adores them but would NEVER buy one. she says they are plagues with health problems as are white Great Danes and Dobermans.
Yes, i have seen that particular site before. The woman has e-mailed me before and she is very misinformed on the color issues, standard, etc. I would personally never purchase one for many reasons including, disqualifying color, health issues, skin issues, etc. As mentioned above it is simialr to the white dobe problem.
The only colors Pugs are to be are black, or fawn...which comes in different shades of (silver, apricot, etc)
Thanks LPN and Wandering! I thought it wasn't the best route to go with a Pug. It was hard to read that font, but from what I could make out of it, these were the colors before they were bred down. Hmm.
If I were getting a Pug, I would get a fawn baby! They are just the cutest :)
aww its a cute white pug, but i dont know if i am correct at all to say this since i do not breed pugs,but the white one looks very different then the fawn and black one in the same pic, like a different body structure, maybe something was crossed in several generations ago? just a thought
Pugs breed very very true becuase their colors can be restricted.
The white pug in that photo does have pigment, so it may not be an albino, but I'd bet money its not a pure pug. Its lacking serious type.
Breeders do not run around and slaughter all of the puppies of the wrong color in a litter. It is very easy to remove color form a breeding program and white is one of those colors. most white dogs are caused by a pibald or white spotting gene, and others are caused by albinoisem. White spotting genetics don't just occure randomly you know if you have them and if you don't. A line may only have the occasional suprise popping up but a line can be complelty free as well.
Pugs are one of those breeds bred down to simple colors.
Black and fawn/sable. Although they do have a non sable fawn as well that is not seen as often. However since most breeds the fawns are actually sables anyway with coats not long enough to show the banding it is moot.
Icy, you have me curious. Do you mean my fawn pug might actually have sable under her top coat? I tried to look but I couldn't tell, lol. How do you know? Or do you just not know. It doesn't make any difference to me, I'm just curious since you mentioned it. I've never seen a sable.
I forgot the other part of the op's question. Male vs Female. Obviously I have a female and don't know much about the males, but the one's I've seen aren't behaved any differently from Bailey.
I dont think you can show a white pug. It's not the akc standard of the breed. I wonder how they got a white pug? Is it albino? I have never seen them except on a few sites. I think the fawn and blacks are waaaaay cute. Can't wait to get mine
Yes, I have a fawn. She wasn't especially hard to train, but she is very smart and can be stubborn and sneaky. She doesn't have a mean bone in her body though. She was very easy to train. I think Rusty helped on that one though. I think he thinks he is her mother, lol.
Hello,I am new here but have been reading this forum on white pugs.I am sure that I am the person/breeder who you speak about.I am sorry that the font on our site was hard to read,I did go in and change it so the new font should be easier to read.When I talk about the white,and silver colors being culled down ,I am not saying that that any white or silver pups are harmed or killed out of these standard colors,only that because they are not viewed as commonly seen standard colors that are exceptable in the show ring,that they and are looked down upon and spayed and nuetered as a result.Yes this is mainly done by the show breeders as they feel strongly that they must go by the breed standard,which I will also agree with that there needs to be a breed standard to go by,however I do not feel that they should be so rigid as to leave out two naturally occuring legitamate pug colors. I will assure you that every AKC pug that I own and breed is 100% pure pug and of superior quality.With there being NO EXCEPTIONS to the white pugs.The quality is not only there but it shines through in photos and in person. I do not condone breed mixing and have never bred anything other than 100% pure akc pugs.The color silver/grey and white have been in the genetics since the beginning of the breed,and will continue to be seen in this breed throughout time,but will remain rare if many breeders continue to weed them out.Which is why it has taken us many years with great investment to breed these colors right. Yes I do agree if the quality is not there then the dog should be fixed and never reproduce. In fact it is well documented that Queen Victoria also owned silver/grey pugs and I hardly think anyone would question that they were indeed pure bred pugs. I think if you continue to see tunnel vision with regards the color that is a personal choice,but I receive email after email from those who not only own but love these two pug colors and are pushing for them to be added to the standard colors so that they may be shown along side the commonly seen fawns,& blacks in the the ring.Yes they are registered AKC ,but as of yet I have not seen one in the show ring as the Pug Dog Club Of America is still debating the issue,they know that they can not stop these legitatmate naturally occurring pug colors from being registered but they have been trying to keep them out of the ring for the time being.I beleive that this will change as there are many reputable breeders and owners out there who are pushing for it.With regards to our responsibility as breeders ,it is RARE that we allow any of our pug puppies to go to a show/breeding home with full breeding rights ~this is a huge responsibility that we do not take lightly,and if we do we choose to allow it ,it is ONLY to those breeders & pugs kids that we feel will represent us and our breeding program well.Our reputation speaks for itself,by those who admire quality, and see it in each and every litter that we carefully plan,& choose to have.I do feel that knowledge is power so I am choosing to share my knowledge and experience with those who are interested and I am choosing to respond with educational purposes in mind,not to be argumentitive.I also understand that we live in America ,and we are each entitled to our own oppinion that is what makes this country great.I only ask that you keep an open mind because you might just learn something in the process,like I have from many others on my journey to where I am now as a Pug lover,& breeder.
***Edited By: puglady1 on 8/2/2006 5:35:20 AM*** Reason: Corrected some spelling errors.
I am unsure if you were the specific breeder referred to as links to anyones website and anything similar to advertising is strictly prohibited here. The link that was provided, did indeed breed 'white' pugs, and as a show breeder myself, I do love the silver fawns. The white that was displayed on that particular site was a bad representation of the breed. Far from standard and lacked type. I do not personally foresee the whites being permitted in the show ring in my lfetime, but who knows. Though AKC when contacted dnies that these 'white' pugs actually are registered as 'white' being the color listed on their papers. When checking the akc site and looking up even alternate colors allowed for pugs, several fawn type shades including silver are listed, but white is not even an option. I am curious since I have never seen one in person or sen the reg papers for one, if maybe the actual color they are reg under is indeed silver fawn? Just curious.
Though I must say, a proper white would be a beautiful color...just getting it accepted would be the key.
***Edited By: lpn169 on 8/2/2006 5:40:47 AM*** Reason: add
Here is an AKC registry # for a white female pug,yes she is absolutely registered WHITE by the AKC,if you have any doubts look it up.I am not sure who you spoke with at the American kennel Club,but I will assure you that they are most certainly registering our white pugs as AKC White.Funny Farm Molly Mae Reg # TR24845802.Molly represents the pug breed very well and in my oppinion as well as most others I have heard from she is very typey,but could be bred for a shorter back crossed to the right male.We are very proud to have her in our breeding program representing the pug breed.We have bred her with a more cobbier type male that is silver/grey for a litter that is due this month,so it will be interesting to see just how the color genetics play out here. Here is a picture of Molly,and in my oppinion this pug has more type than most that I have come across. Here are some pictures of Molly as well as one of our silver/greys,and our traditional colored pugs.All are AKC registered http://w110.photobucket.com/widgets/dynamicflash.php?featuretype=bucketstrip&featurename=strip_01&pa=/n92/lisagallegos/ .
***Edited By: puglady1 on 8/12/2006 11:10:30 PM*** Reason: Edited