Hi everyone!...Ok...So when I brought Lola to the Vet's @ 5months I was told she is great and very healthy by my Veterinarian. I was so pleased, and I called her breeder to praise her. I was so pleased to know that I have another happy and healthy pup in the family. Lola is now 9 months, and just had her first heat. I brought her again to the Vet's and we noticed that she has a slight underbite and the Vet believes she may be developing a roachback, but that he is not sure yet. I am to bring her again Fri to run some tests etc, if I decide. Now the underbite issue, is it a 100% genetic thing? Or could it be that her palates are still growing and forming and that the bottom has grown and the top hasn't yet? Because @ 5 months she had a beautiful scissor bite. I am not sure, so I did call her breeder. She says she never heard of the term Roachback but that she will fully support Lola's condition if in fact she does stay with an underbite and does develop a roachback. Which I am glad to hear. Also, the Vet said I should bring her back after she turns a year because by this point she is considered to have reached her adult structure. May she need some teeth pulled? Has anyone experienced this? Anything at all. I have done research and I have found these are genetic defects, if in fact they appear to be Lola's final structure. If this is the case, the breeder has agreed to refund me money because she is no longer "breeder quality" and is now "pet quality." and that she will pay for her to be spayed. Either way I love Lola and will not be getting rid of her or giving her back to the breeder and she will be spayed if this is the issue. Please reply with any helpful, friendly, and considerate information. Any suggestions, help, similar experiences???? Thanks alot!
No don't pull teeth for any non health reason. The bite may or may not correct itself. As for the roachback, what do you mean? the roachback I'm familiar with is a conformation issue, where the back is the opposite of a swayback. Not the worse thing, but it does count off in a class. what breed is your dog?
Hi eddy...is this one of the Min Pins, or another one? Yes, they are genetic issues. In general though, since the pup developed the underbite later in its puppy life, it will likely be staying undershot if not get worse yet. Usually a puppy can start a bit undershot, but will end up with a proper bite as it grows. Since it is developing opposite of the norm, expect it to remain, IMO. What is he seeing that makes him think she is going roach backed? (surprised as well that a breeder is unfamiliar with this general term for structure). Is this something you see in her as well? If you had pics of her then and now, maybe we could try to see if any of us see it developing as well.
I had a similar experiance with my male he was neutered at 2 after I showed him to his Ch, but I did it I felt it was better to do it then have the chance to pass on the problem. His isn't that bad, slight epilesy, his breeder had both parents checked and never repeated the breeding either. She offered to pay to have him neutered and to give me a new pet dog, and keep him too. Or pay the pet price and have a new show dog, breedings to my female, I never took any of them, the fact that she was wiling was good enough for me.
Hi...Thanks everyone so far for the advice, comments, and opinions. Lola is a Yorkie. By Roachback I mean she has a slight hump towards her rear. Her front legs seem to be slightly shorter than her hind legs. If you know what I mean. I hope these issues do correct themselves, and are just phases of her growth. Not that I would like to show her but I wanted her to have a litter before her getting her spayed. Of course, breeding for pet quality and not for show quality at all. Also, I am EXTREMELY shocked that her breeder is not familiar with roachback. (LPN and otheres) She says she has heard of it in Bulldogs or something like that but not too familiar with it. I searched long and hard for a reputable Yorkie breeder in my area, and I felt I did find one. For her to be willing to work something out and refund me money and pay for her spaying (if necessary and decided on), I do believe she stands behind what she produces but still has alot of learning to do. Well, I will keep you all updated and would appreciate more comments, opinions, feedback etc etc. I really do. So again, I will keep you updated. And hoping that Penny (Min Pin) will be having some puppies soon (LPN), so that is a good note. Talk later
In response to the underbite issue. I had an English Setter with bite problems and had several veterinarians advise me to pull teeth. Instead I found and veterinary dentist. They are trained in dealing with these issues. Sometimes things can be corrected without pulling teeth. If you start pulling canines you will have your dogs tongue hanging out the side of her mouth (not attractive!) I would definately consult a doggy dentist if at all possible.
YES!!! Yorkiemalt that is me...I posted this same type of thread on another site...I am trying to get the MOST insight, I can get possible....She is on the bigger side I guess, or normal size you can call it... Thanks again!!!
Oh also...Thanks, I will be bringing her to the Vet's this Friday...It is a very slight underbite, and I am hoping it will correct itself...I was told that it could also be a result of me not having any of her teeth pulled around 6 months. However, the Vet check and she had a nice scissor bite at this time or I would have. I am hoping there is a reason for this other than genetics. Either way thanks for the help and I am hoping for Lola's best interest...
Thanks Icyhound....She just turned 9 months, and at 5 months she had a nice scissor bite. I clearly remember the Vet telling me that. I am bringing her Friday to the Vets, like I have said, Sure hoping for the best. Either way she is beautiful and healthy. I heard a slight under/overbite does not affect their health so that is great. I was just hoping to breed her once before spaying her, but who knows I may spay her if this underbite is still evident after she reaches her full growth and structure. Plus, Lola's breeder stands behind what she produces and is fully supporting us, both financially and emotionally, which is great! Keeping my fingers crossed. Pray and hope for us! Thanks!