I've been wanting a kitten or a cat for awhile..and I'm wondering if it's the right time. I already have a dog, two bunnies and turtles, hermit crabs and fish..the bunnies/turtles/fish all live outside. I'm wondering if adding a kitten to my home would be a big adjustment..Delilah, (German Shepherd), has never been around cats..but she is fine with the other animals. Plus, I've been having a little mice problem in the basement..grr..so besides having a new family member, the cat/kitten would help out too. My sister's cat just had kittens, and she told me I could have one if I wanted..but I'm still thinking about it. I've asked other family members/friends what they thought..just for the input...and it seems like some of them think I am just starting to hoard animals because they think I'm lonely..I don't think that is the case, I love all of my pets and I take great care of them IMO. My yard is completely fenced in, so if the cat would be an inside/outside cat..I don't think it would run away. Another option would be to adopt an adult kitten from a shelter. What do you all think? Opinions greatly appreciated.
***Edited By: sandysmommie on 8/3/2006 9:16:11 PM*** Reason: add
Unless you get the cat declawed, he will be able to get out, and most likely will. I had cats growing up. Toby and Shadrach could both climb up the side of my stucco house, to get to my second story window and cry to let them in. If they are going to be outside at all, it is not a good idea to get them declawed, as its their only line of defense. I would bring one of your sisters kittens home to see how the GSD reacts to her before you commit to it.
Well if you have the time, patience, and money go ahead, I don't agree with the indoor/ outdoor thing, but that is my opinion, I don't like declawing either. My cats are indoor only, they have plenty of things to do in the house, we also have siberian huskies, they all get along fine. Here are their catster pages.
I also don't agree with the indoor/outdoor, my cat Doodles(yup that was his name) died from antifreeze poisoning. Since that day, none of my cats will go outside without a leash. And if you do decide to let it out, it will need claws to defend itself. My cats go on a leash/harness outside, but the only problem is constant crying at the door to be let out. Its you decision, but I think a cat would be fun for you. They have such different personalities from any other animals. Good Luck.
I think the idea of you getting a kitten is great! They are cute, playful, and they don't need to go outside just yet. They're really fun to have around too. My friend just found an abandoned kitten in the woods, and whenever I went to her house, the kitten would climb up on my knees if I was sitting and would sleep on my lap. Just keep in mind that if you declaw her or him, the mice problem will be harder to get rid of...
***Edited By: I-love-labs on 8/4/2006 5:37:58 AM*** Reason: I meant to put a slash inbetween him and her
The first thing I would recommend is politely suggesting to your sister that she spay her cat so no more unwanted kittens are born. Second, if you think you're ready for a cat, you really have to be ready. This means doing a lot of research.
Cats are phenomenal jumpers and climbers, so they can escape from practically anything. Indoor/outdoor cats are BAD ideas. Your neighbors will not appreciate it and if you don't get your cat spayed/neutered, you'll contribute to the pet overpopulation and end up shelling out major money in vet bills. Fleas anyone? Dead wildlife? Oh yes, and cats outside are prone to all sorts of accidents and tragedies. I've seen more than my fair share of dead cats run over by cars and neighborhood bullies throwing rocks and sicking their dogs on the poor cats. Raccoons, oppossums, and feral cats/dogs are also dangerous (rabies, FIV, FeLV, etc). And what is your cat eating? Poisonous plants, substances, or even meat from your irate neighbors?
Lastly, remember that kittens quickly become big cats before you know it and they're not going to be cute and cuddly anymore. Cats will be cats and they were born with claws and should keep them. If you get a kitten, start right away clipping its nails, grooming it, and brushing its teeth, and cleaning its ears as often as necessary. If you're worried about furniture--don't get a cat!!! Declawing (De-toeing) is extremely cruel and unnecessary. Buy a tall (3.5 ft), solid wood or sisal post and put it right in the middle of your house where the cat will spend most of its time. Praise it when it uses it and redirect any lapses. Rub catnip on it. Buy two. The basement broom closet is not a good place for a scratching post, not with your couch so close at hand...
De-toeing a cat is serious business. Its illegal in Great Britain and many other industrialized, progressive countries. Cats are digitigrade--they walk on their toes--so if you surgically remove them, they loose balance and have to relearn how to walk, which puts pressure on their joints and leads to arthritis. Cats de-toed are more likely to bite and have litterbox problems. They can't defend themselves or gain purchase enough to escape. Is all this torture really worth it? If you're still having problems with scratching, try SoftPaws vivyl sheaths, frequent nail clipping, or a different scratching post. Try deterents like a squirt gun or penny can.
Just don't declaw!! Spay or neuter, and finally--don't let your cat outside without a leash!
I have had my 4 cats going on 13 years. We keep them indoors unless they are on a leash with me. I think the indoor way of life is the only way to go. It keeps them from being more susceptible to outdoor diseases. We trim our cats nails about every 2 weeks and they do fine. We also make sure they have lots of things to scratch on.
kittens are no the so called easy pets.cats are great dont get me wrong.i have 6 cats so i love them but dont think you can just bring it home and be done.they are going to climb on EVERYTHING.they will probably break things.the outside thing in my opionion is a horrible idea.it can get diseases that indoor cats wont.all 6 of my cats are indoors so might think im crazy for having that many but they were dumped so i took them in.please if you get a kitten spay/neuter it to prevent more unwonted litters.
You guys are right, I don't know what I was thinking about the indoor/outdoor thing...but..If I get one of the kittens...it will not be de-clawed, IMO its cruel..its a cat..they need their claws. I've already yelled at my sis about not spaying her cat after the FIRST unwanted litter! She is going to have her male neutered first, her cats never go outside..and the spca reccommended they get the male neutered first. My sis lives about 15/20 minutes from me, she could bring one to my house and see if there were any problems with my dog. I have seen the kittens, incredibly cute of course, they are mitten-toed? (6 toes on each paw) I still haven't decided for sure yet, but thanks for the opinions!
I don't agree with having a cat declawed being cruel. I just had my cat declawed and she is a lot more loving, she still uses her litter box, and she still tries to scratch at things, but it doesn't hurt our furniture or children now if she does paw them. I had a cat when I was 14 that was declawed and she was indoor and outdoor cat, and she NEVER had a problem, and always came home when she roamed our small neighborhood. Absolutely no problems being inside and outside and declawed. She lived until she was 12 years old. My cat now that just got declawed has been a lot more loveable. But to each his own
***Edited By: poppyryce on 8/4/2006 4:29:12 PM*** Reason: add
Way to go Sandy! I think if you decide to get a kitten you'll be a great mom. However, Poppy, I have to disagree with your conclusion. Just because you've had two cats declawed and didn't notice any problems, doesn't mean that that's the rule. More like the exception. Your cat may seem more loving, etc., but that doesn't mean she's happy or that she'd rather not have her claws. I'm confused that you think mutilating your cat is the best thing for her.
I can't say I've ever understood the claim some people make that cats are better off de-toed than in a shelter or euthanized, because why would a cat want to be in a home that values the furniture more than a living, feeling being? It's an extremely painful and tramatic surgery. The fact that your cat still scratches should be proof enough on how much cats need their claws psychologically as well as physically. Claws are natural.
Oh, and cats with more than five claws on their front paws and four on their back are called polydactyl. They can have as many as 32 claws!!!
***Edited By: avezwia on 8/4/2006 6:43:41 PM*** Reason: Add for reference
I wouldn't go as far to say that declawing a cat is mutilating it. That is a little extreme. And I didn't say that just because I have known two cat declawed, doesn't mean it is best for everyone. I believe I said to each his own. My cat is very happy and is very much loved. Her paws are fine, and she does have her back claws. She still plays with all her cat toys and a predator of lizards, (she shows them no mercy lol) So don't put words in my mouth, or make something EXTREME, when someone adopts a pet, takes very good care of it, and saying I love my furniture more is ridiculous also. But anyway it depends on what is best for the owner, my cat is still the same, and a lot more loving. Still hunts, still climbs, just doesn't get holes in my furniture or scatch us now, since her front claws are removed. Oh and my cat went to sleep purring before the surgery and woke up purring after. She had not problems when I brought her home, so traumatic is another dramatic word you used.
***Edited By: poppyryce on 8/7/2006 8:25:27 AM*** Reason: Add
People will always see what they want to see. I apologize if I put words in your mouth (reply :) ) but I can't imagine what de-toeing is if not mutilation?
Mutilation: To deprive of a limb or an essential part; cripple (www.dictionary.com)
Cats walk on their toes (digitigrade). They use their claws for almost everything--from walking to climbing to eating. If that isn't essential I don't know what is. I'm sure your cat is doing fine and you're thrilled to have them. But you're saying that its great because they don't put holes in your hand or furniture. Wouldn't clipping their nails be less extreme? This isn't a routine surgery like spaying/neutering. It's the removal of an essential part of a cat's physic.
Try imagining someone deciding one day to remove the first bone in all of your fingers. How easy would it be for you to get things done? Humans have long, thin hands versus short, rounded paws like cats. They walk on their "hands." The discomfort walking, jumping, and balancing is not good for cats: their joints or their posture.
De-toeing just isn't necessary. What's wrong with the alternatives?
Cats de-toed are more likely to bite and have litterbox problems. They can't defend themselves
this is absolutely NOT true. declawed cats are no more likely to have litterbox or biting issues then a clawed cat. it is just a bunch of lies thought up by people who are against declawing to scare off the public from having their cats declawed. it also scares off people from adoipting already declawed older cats because they think they are going to adopt an animal with existing problems. it doesnt do these cats any service to spread lies about declawing.
and the surgery is called DECLAWING not DE-TOEING> you are not removing the cats toes. you are removing the claw that is inside the toe. cats walk JUST FINE after being declawed and they do not have to re learn how to walk. good grief.
as far as indoor VS outdoor. yes there are a lot more dangers outdoors present to cats who are allowed outdoors. no disagreement there. some cats are content to stay indoors and never go out. some cats, like one of mine, loves to sneak out periodically. keeping the kitten indoors right from the start will hopefully deter it from wanting to go out but it is no guarantee. cats are pretty good at defending themselves with or without claws. i have seen far too many cats come in to work shaken and torn to death that had their claws intact. no one told the dogs who did this to them that the cats had their claws.
***Edited By: scout1 on 8/7/2006 9:01:14 PM*** Reason: x
To put the declawing issue to rest. You can go to the vet or Petsmart and buy fake nails for your cat, they come in different colors (i'm not joking) and they have rounded edges so no scratching furniture. Plus your kittie could have pink nails! They come off when their claws grow, and you just glue them on. Its safe and the vet even reccomends it.
Avezwia, As much as I have to appriciate your opinion, I cant say I agree. Many cats through the years(let me rephrase) I am 43, and I have had many cats that I never had to declaw but there have been a few I have. Here are my two house cats Sable is the Siamese and Midnight is the black one these two would rip my house to shreds! BUT After declawing they are the best cats I have ever owned! Well addapted and very much well loved! Yes for a few weeks they were a little sore BUT.. Look at the TOTAL outcome they are spoiled rotten!, When we built our house we added a half wood half screened in porch JUST so they had the enjoyment of being in or out. They have everything life can offer them and also the sweetest I have ever known!
They give me total enjoyment BECAUSE of being declawed they dont scratch my new log home!! BUT!!! In return They also have the lives of total QUEENS! every toy that life can bring, There own beds, excellent food and treats when needed, AND most important all the love they can possibly have!!!!
If you go on some of my responses on this forum you will notice I dont normally write this long of a response BUT... This is one I am Passionate about!!! Some people not only declawing , BUT in other areas too respond on how cruel certain things are.... If an animal is abused or suffering I am right there to defend!!!!!! BUT.. In some cases would you want, Nevermind this would take to long..
Let me phrase it like this.... DO YOU WANT THE PET TO HAVE A GOOD HOME, WITH A LOVING FAMILY OR... NOT DO WHAT IS NECCESARY TO MAKE THIS PET ADDAPT AND FIND ITS ON THE STREETS OR PUT TO SLEEP!
(sorry mods for the caps delete if you want)
I am sorry if I have offende anyone, BUT.. I do feel that certain things May be need to happen IF the end result is TOTAL LOVE!!!!
Thanks scout. I didn't get the de-toeing either. My cat was just declawed. She has all her toes and walks just fine. So I wasn't sure what the other person was saying by mutilation, because my cats toes were not removed just her claws in her front paws only, she still has her back claws.