TraumaMamma, luvmypits, can you imagine how much better the pit bull image would be if people realized what you do; that they *aren't* dogs for everyone? They do require lots of socializing, engaging physical activity and mentally stimulation. They are also prone to dog-on-dog aggression. Contrast your remarks as very knowledgeable, experienced pit bull owners with the cavalier attitude of people on here with the "a dog is a dog." attitude.
I love malamutes, but I would never, ever recommend one as a pet for anyone with kids under the age of 12.
***Edited By: kiyote on 8/14/2006 3:57:10 PM*** Reason: Typo
I have a few things to add to this discussion. Some have been said, but some need to be repeated:
1. 92% of all fatal dog attacks since 1965 have been caused by male dogs. 94% of those males were unnuetered, the other 6% were unaccounted for. This statistic speaks for itself. This is the number one contributing factor in FATAL dog attacks, above breed, chaining, raising, etc. Not all unaltered dogs attack, but most attacks are by unaltered dogs.
2. Dogs can be born with genetic defects affecting temperment just like children can. Nurture plays a huge part in a dog's behavior, but nature cannot be dismissed. As any other parent with a child with a disability can attest to, emotional disabilities are real, and present from birth. For example, a parent with ADHD is much more likely to produce offsping with ADHD. The same rules apply to dogs, just without the fancy names. To put this in perspective, the "breed" that my husband and I produced and all generations that follow are more likely to have emotional disabilities. The same applies for dogs. This is not a guarantee, or a reason not to reproduce, but a risk that we take. Some breeds are more prone to certain genetic disabilites than others.
I am sure that this sounds like a bunch of rambling. I apologize for that. I believe strongly in my opinionson discrimination, no matter what species is involved.
I have always believed with any breed it is 40% genetics and 60% environment.
If the dog (any breed) comes from a bad gene pool even if it is in the most loving home and is socialized daily you have a good chance of having an aggressive dog. The same is to be said for a dog with good genes and in a bad living environment.
With that said, this is why I would never get certain breeds from a rescue or shelter. My breed of choice is dobermans and I want to know history on the dog, I need to know their parents, grand parents and other siblings are all stable. It may upset some here but I have to live with what I have and I have to be comfortable for the safety of my family that my dogs are stable. If I was talking about a toy dog an attack would not bee so bad, but with breeds that can do as much damage as a doberman, pit, rotti or any other large breed my piece of mind that the dog will become part of the family and not try to work his way to the top of the pecking order is most important.
You may argue that it can happen to any dog no matter what the genentics are and I agree, but I want the odds in my favor.
I'm embarrassed to say that I do get nervous when I see a Pit Bull. I don't actually know any, and it's horrible of me to judge a book by it's cover, but I know it's from anything you hear about the pit bull is that they are aggressive. I read some very interesting points and I totally agree that it's not fair to judge like that. I completely believe that it is in the raising of the dog that will make all the difference in the World. I will try my best to never judge a pit bull again without at least getting to know it.
Ok, confession time....I used to be like that too. What I heard in the news/paper about the pits,,,then my hubby wanted one. I said he** no,,,
Well, I caved, we bought a 9 weeks old pit bull puppy. She was absolutely wonderful! I mean with my kids, cats, and other dogs. (and yes, she still is) she changed my mind so much we now have 4 pit bulls and of course my rottweiler.They all get along just fine. (1 we had to re-home due to dog agression, but only to the other pits,,,guess the rott was just too big for her,,,LOL)
Anyways,,,all of them are big babies! They come inside at night, have a covered patio, dog house (and for the older ones, a doggie door) during the day. You can usually find 1 pit on the couch next to my 4 yr olf, 1 pit on my bed or my 12 yr olds bed, 1 on which ever lap is available, 1 on the other lap/couch/bed whereever there is room, and my rottie on the tile by the front door. (he's the odd ball)
I forgot what my point was...LOL,,anyways they changed my mind, and they are one of the best breeds I have had the pleasure of owning. Agressive,,,PLEASE,,,they'll open the door/gate for you if they could!!
I am guilt for being careful around pits, but not because I think they are raving loonies. but because I know a pitbull has over 200lbs per square inch of jaw power. labrador has about 90 lbs. I do not think they are evil.
back to the OPS ? "it's all in how they are raised" how I wish that nieve statement were true. If that were true I could take any dog and make it a world champion. But sadly genetics play apart, as does enviormental stimulation u cannot control. Some dogs are braver, some are sweeter, some shy, sone fearful, some bouncy, and some are mean. I think a more accurate statement is. "A big part of it is, how you raise them".
and some pits are Just mean, as are some labs. Another fact is pits are not breed to be human aggressive.
I do think that pitbulls should not be banned...but the argument it's all on how they are raised is full of holes.
***Edited By: gunny on 8/14/2006 7:25:36 PM*** Reason: q