Why should one death cause jealousy over unexposure of another? Why should anyone question the way he reacted when something like that happened?
I can tell you that I know you are not supposed to move anybody after a car accident until they can be stablized, but if it was someone I cared about and adrenaline and panic had taken over...I can't say that I could answer 100% that I would definately know to sit there and calmly remind myself "Now what does "The book" say I should do?.."
If you have a problem with the war and soldiers dying or anyone else in the world dying, find a way to fix it. Get more involved. don't sit here and complain about a freak accident that people will naturally be curious about considering the man was famous. And, I don't see the big deal about this getting pubilicty. It's not like it's been a non stop week of media attention. I just found out yesterday like the rest of the world did.
The guy just wanted to be as close as possible so he could experience and try to save animals while educating people. He didn't care what the nay sayers thought. He had the guts to live his life his own way and if you notice he was a happy, well balanced man.
His family had the most incredible life and frankly, I think that intimidates alot of people.
Now, if you are all done with your own little agendas, complaining and hating what you don't or can't understand... there are more important things to be done. Like living your own life, instead of complaining about how others lived and died while living their own.
I think The Crocodile Hunters thread has been hijacked quite enough.
***Edited By: pope1982 on 9/5/2006 3:25:38 PM*** Reason: ...
Not only you Traumma because I respect and admire what people like your son do for this country.
It seems this thread is turning towards our country. First of all, there are already threads about that. Second of all, Steve Irwin is not american so I am not even sure why we are talking about what is going on with our contry and how patriotic we are, or not not because we are mourning his death.
It just seems as though his death is full of hostility being that he is judged for how he raised his children, how he died, down to how he lived his life and people saying the he deserved it. That is a nasty, ugly thing to say.
I recently lost my grandmother and I can tell you right now that if someone told me to my face that she deserved to die, I would be going to jail for a very long time.
I'm only saying that he is dead plain and simple and noone deserves to be judged when they die. That is between him and his maker.
We are all well aware that his life, and his death have a purpose. The purpose is awareness and education.
Steve Irwin dedicated his live to animals. He fought for their rights. He help children become very aware of the world around them, and the plight of many endangered animals. He helped them learn how one person can make a huge difference.
cockerbocker, are you a Mod??? I don't think so. If the mods have a problem, they will deal with it, they don't need you monitoring our every move. Don't you have better things to do with your time??? You seriously annoy me.
you remind me of my highschool english teacher. "Are you discussing Hamlet?????, I didn't think so. Don't get off topic now, or you'll be staying after class" Geez
***Edited By: bogle lover on 9/5/2006 4:45:51 PM*** Reason: add
This may not have anything to with pets but it has a lot to do with animals, I see there is a couple of topics on here that has nothing to do with pets or animals its about percings and tatoos, I admired the man , my son had learned a lot about animals that he will probably never see and some they will not teach in school, I know after watching his shows my son would pretend to be steve and he would come up on one of our dogs and explaine things the way steve would and at the end my son would say its she a beauty. I would have trusted my children with that man and i am a very over protective mom.
I will address Pope since I was the one that first posed the morel dilemma question.
First-- CRICKY! Get your knickers out of a bunch! I never said anything other than I missed the man and it was upsetting.
Second-- I will NEVER apologize for making people think about the larger world around them. It is sad loss and a tragedy that Steve died-- but there are a lot worse atrocities going on all the time--for animals too. Think about it. Put it in perspective.
Third-- I am not jealous of anything. I just want to point out that it is a little sickening how much attention that the media is giving this and how numb we are to other terrible things that are not 'on the front page'.
I think he deserves respect and tributes BUT isn't the media kind of blowing it out of proportion JUST as they did the whole 'baby incident'? After the way the media tried to crucify him in life they are now making nearly a circus out of his death.
Don't like my opinion? Good, at least you heard a different side and thought about it. We can't all think alike you know.
I agree. It is about the bigger picture, think globally act locally. I loved Steve and his work, he was a wonderful man.
I just wonder what he would think of all this media frenzy-the way they treated him before? All the speculating. I truly hope that the film of his death is never leaked. To me that would be the ultimate violation of respect.
I know I don't post on here much anymore. But finding out that he had passed away I felt the need to come here and post among fellow animal lovers. The man wasn't perfect as none of us are. But he was a true animal lover and I was a fan. He did such great things for the animals and for humans as well. I got part of his tribute last night and it showed how he stopped filming to search for two lost scuba divers in the sea. He found one but unfortunately the other had passed away the night before.
No, the man didn't use the best judgement when he had baby Bob in the show with him and near the croc pen. However, I always imagine what it would be like for me to live my whole live in front of the media. We all use poor judgement at times, but are blessed to have a smaller audience than those we judge. Either way, he will be missed and my heart goes out to his family.
I would like to say thank you to TM. I didn't know the information she posted although I guess it's a little bit of common sense when you think about it. This was a complete freak accident, but that information can help others in more common situations such as a car accident. I was also a little puzzled as to how he died from a stingray. I've known others who have been sting and it's not really a big deal. Painful yes, but just not deadly. That does explain a lot.
Alicat, I don't think Steve Irwin would mind the media coverage. He used the media all the time to bring awareness, especially locally in his own area. Besides, the coverage is an outpouring showing that he made an impact, a difference.
***Edited By: blackqueen8 on 9/5/2006 10:52:06 PM*** Reason: added
Blackqueen, sorry if spelt wrong Where did you see a tribute I searched all night last night. I thought Animal Planet was supposed to have one and when I checked it appeared to be a episode of him in the Anartic. . I watched Animal Planet all night last night. I saw some of the tribute clips (little comerial like things) but not a whole show. Bummer I was hoping to catch that.
Oh and don't be too shocked if the video of his death leaks out. I was talking to my Hubby yesterday who is a video producer/editor and he said with out a doubt they will find a way to get that video out. But then I thought about it.... not to sound sick or anything, but think of Steve. his whole life was spent trying to educate everyone, he always showed the episodes when he got bitten or hurt in any way. I won't be too shocked if his family decides eventually not right away but in the future to release the final tape. Like I said not to sound morbid, but it was he last means of educating people. (please don't take that out of context)
***Edited By: Dannitrimber on 9/6/2006 8:49:29 AM*** Reason: miss spelled name
Thanks, Blackqueen, I guess that is all I was trying to say, in that, I was trying to explain how he died, and why he died so quick.
I have mixed feelings about the video.....if it were just him swimming with the stingray and getting poked, that would be ok....if for no other reason, than to show how NOT to swim with one! if they are gonna show him taking the barb out and passing out before our eyes, to me, that is disrespectful.....
I have been with my share of people who have passed away and I have always considered that a sacred event...its not fun to watch someone die, especially when they realize they are and if they are not ready to go, as Steve was....
Dunno. Its the families decision, so our opinions dont matter, nor should they!
And I will hardly be in a suicidal anything, any time soon. Although, I am sure you or someone in your close personal "circle of friends" can recommend some good ones :)
I just happen to get a kick out of those demotivators as they suit my sense of humor. People like you hardly understand my dry wit... I'm sorry for you :( That is an odd interpritation you silly goose! I am happy and comfortable with who I am.
Unlikely that you can say the same as a first time poster who decides to make "his" very first post, looking like an idiot on a post about someones death.
dandydan, are you my number one fan?! You're a drag.
I just wanted to comment on what some of you posted about him holding a croc with his infant son. There were two diffent camera angles, one angle(the most popular one shown on tv) shows him very close to the croc. The other angle he was at least 5-6 feet away. So it was blown out of proportion. He was a great man and loved animals. May he rest in peace.