I found these two little cuties on petfinder.com I can't believe they want $400 a pup. They say the reason is to pay for other dog's vet bill they have in rescue. Do you guys think this is fair? I was interested, but not at that price!
the rescues I have seen will charge what it costs to take care of that dog (not including food and time spent taking care of them) but i dont think i have every herd of one charging a set high price so they can ake care of others
Wow! That is high. That kind of price on rescues really irks me. Yes I understand there are vet bills to pay and mouths to feed but when you are placing rescues you cannot sit down and try and figure what your expenses are and try and have your adoption fees cover them. That's not what rescue is all about. And what about the tax deductions that rescues get? Humm, kind of makes you wonder. Aren't they supposed to be non profit? When I was doing rescue work, out of my own pocket at that, with dog food donations now and then from a larger rescue agency, we would provide all the medical care needed etc... and when the time came to adopt the dog out we never said, well we spent $500 on this one so... We just wanted a good home, the amount to be donated was not the first issue. There was no set amount either.
Hello- I was very interested in one of your pups, however I think your price is a little steep. Isn’t the point of rescues to find the dog a good home? I understand needing money to feed other mouths, and vet bills you have to pay for other dogs, but isn’t that a little unfair to charge that kind of price to someone trying to adopt a dog to give it a good home? You can get puppies out of the paper cheaper than that. Just because you spend so much on one dog, doesn’t mean you should charge unfair prices to cover expense. I have never heard of any other rescues charging this kind of adoption fee to cover expenses on other dogs they have. I know a girl who works for a rescue and she says just because they spend say $500 on a dog’s vet bills doesn’t mean they charge that price to cover expenses. Don’t you get tax deductions? Non profit organization? This price or having set prices on adoption fees doesn’t sound right to me and it doesn’t sound like you are looking for the best interest in the puppy, just whoever has the money first.
The Pugapoo is not a purebred dog. It is a cross between the Pug and the Poodle. The best way to determine the temperament of a mixed breed is to look up all breeds in the cross and know you can get any combination of any of the characteristics found in either breed. Not all of these designer hybrid dogs being bred are 50% purebred to 50% purebred. It is very common for breeders to breed multi-generation crosses.
Yeah I just got a pug. I was just looking, and saw these cute lil guys. I thought the price was outrageous for a rescue though. LPN did you ever decide on a name for your new Min Pin? Sorry if I missed it in your other thread.
***Edited By: poppyryce on 9/13/2006 3:04:09 PM*** Reason: add
I know of a rescue near me that charges very high fees also. I avoid them. They sometimes have really wonderful looking dogs, but I just don't trust them. I know, it can really go either way, and I understand paying for the vet bills... but... I stay away from them just because it makes me uncomfortable. The dogs do find homes, so it all works out.
Lol, here is an outline of what it costs to keep one small to medium healthy dog in rescue for 1 week.
now tell me that the adoption fee is to high and they are making a fortune... and if you can do that please point out where they are making the money.
The cost of housing a pet in rescue. If the animal has NO health problems, and only stays a week.
Vet Visit, health check, vaccinations $100 Spay/Neuter anything from $150 to $300 Worming $ 8.00 Flea meds $ 12.00 Food Per week $ 7.00
Minimum Total $277.00 to $427 max
This does not include Gas for home checks, vets visits, paper, ink for printing, cost of maintaining a phone line, internet connection, upkeep of the shelter, dog/cat beds, toys treats, crates, collars, leashes, id tags, microchips, phone calls. Vehicle maintenance. Cleaning supplies etc
***Edited By: flip195 on 9/13/2006 3:20:32 PM*** Reason: sp
Flip- where do you get that information from? Not all vet visits including health check and shots cost $100.00. My vet charges 35 for yearly shots and health check. So it all depends I guess who the vet is. Also same for neutoring and spay, the cost isn't always that high. Cost 40-80 to spay or neuter at my vet
***Edited By: poppyryce on 9/13/2006 3:56:18 PM*** Reason: add
Look!!! Since I emailed her, she changed the add. The adoption fee is not on there anymore!! She put adoption fee will apply. Wonder if she changed the price. She did not respond to my email. So what does that tell you?
***Edited By: poppyryce on 9/13/2006 3:58:19 PM*** Reason: add
Worming $ 8.00 (Same as my vet but most rescues receive discounted prices if not they need to look around and ask.) Flea meds $ 12.00 Food Per week $ 7.00 (This price is too much. There are many high quality foods at lower prices because the company does not advertise. Rescues also receive donations from people and stores. I know a grocery store who donates ripped/opened bags.)
Minimum Total $277.00 to $427 max
(If the rescue workers do their homework you can spend $122 or less and a max of $180 for a healthy dog.)
My maximum is $300 for a rescue dog. Remember that the purchase/adoption price is probably the cheapest expense. I know I have spent thousands on my dog's health issues. Not to mention I spend a lot of money on food since he can eat like a 300 lb man.
My tally was based on a small rescue that is not yet 501c3 registered. No donations of food, very few donations of anything else. Rare break from the vet as no 501c3 status. Vets in this area do not accept spay/neuter certs. The first vets visit includes heartworm check, 4 way vacs, rabies vac, fecal float, and general health check.
$35 for walkiing in th door ( sometimes waved) $25 health exam $30 for 4 way Vaccs $12 rabies They round it down to $100.
Pediatric spay/neuters cost more but the average works out about $150, large breeds over $65 upto $300.
Food averages $1.00 per day of premium food.
1 months onespot frontline treatment works out on average $12.
Then there are all the other things that i mentioned that were not addressed.
if an animal needs heartworm treatment it can cost upto $350 for that alone.
Flip~ So your vet charges 35$ to walk in plus another 25$ to examine the dog? That seems odd. Why have you not yet learned how to do some things yourself in order to save $$? First of all, you need to learn how to do your own vaccinating. If you have rabies clinics in your area then you need to take advantage of those too. Usually your local animal shelter can advise you when and where they are to take place. Order wormer meds and worm them yourself. Topical flea treatment- order the 6 pack of the Frontline for the largest size dog (89 pounds up I think) dump them into a glass test tube with cork stopper (got mine at craft supply store) and use a syringe to draw up the amount you need for each dog. Microchipping yourself- about $10 per dog. As far as the rest-
"This does not include Gas for home checks, vets visits, paper, ink for printing, cost of maintaining a phone line, internet connection, upkeep of the shelter, dog/cat beds, toys treats, crates, collars, leashes, id tags, microchips, phone calls. Vehicle maintenance. Cleaning supplies etc " Is some of this stuff not tax deductable?
Did you not already have a phone line? Would you not have internet if you did not do rescue? Beds- go to Wal-Mart and buy the cheap arcylic/polyester blankets they sell, twin for $4.44. They make fantastic bedding. Cut them up for smaller dogs and cats. Bleach- cheapest disinfectant. Just a few suggestions.
***Edited By: luvmydoxys on 9/13/2006 11:02:05 PM*** Reason: fx
Yes the new min pin girl was name Lexi. We got our black pug puppy in as well (wasnt ready for her, but they surprised me with a visit and brought her, lol) her name is Gbew (gu-boo) long story on that one, lol. But I'm sure no one else will have one by that name.
Lpn you must post pics of your pug. Well this morning guys I got a pretty rude email from the shelter. Here it is:
Ok let me explain a little something to you about rescues and adoption fees. First off we're "Private' which means we can set the adoption fees at whatever price we feel is necessary. Tax deductions? Yes we get some but that doesn't mean we have the money year round to tend to the animals medical needs and average care. We rescue Horses too and they are never cheap or affordable. We have two wolves in rescue that need to be sent off to a sanctuary. They can't be flown because it's illegal to ship cargo so we have to PAY someone to transport all the way to Nevada. We have a heartworm positive dog in rescue so we have to PAY $400.00 for treatment. We have a horse that was horribly neglected and immaciated . he has two swolen hocks, navicular and white line disease. We have two pregnant dogs in care that were neglected and abandoned. We have to worry about c-section or another common illness such as piametria uterus infection when it comes time for labor and post partum. How about the mangy immaciated demodectic Blue doberman that needs treatment. You see people think money grows on trees or the goverment says "here you go...take anything you need" to us rescues but the world isn't that kind or generous. Do you think the vets care about the stray that gets hit by the car and the good semaritan brings it in for treatment. Are they going to sit there and treat it for free because you were "trying" to do the right thing. No. They'll charge you full price. The economy goes up. The gas prices goes up...The milk goes up...dog food goes up...vets prices esculate and all of a sudden guess what ....adoption fees go up. Yes the pug mix pups have a high adoption fee for a few reasons...another we are trying to raise enough money to purchase an 8 acre sanctuary in Dublin GA because Dublin has no shelter.
Countless strays being forgotten. So we want to be their angels. Their guardians. We can't do this without donations . So please continue to put those rescues down for the adoption fees you can't afford or just don't care to pay . we know on our end why we do what we do from time to time. You're average adoption fees are from $75.00 all the way up to $250.00 . Your averae puppy adoption fee is $150.00 - $250.00. If you don't care to pay that then please go to your local animal control where there's plenty of dogs and puppies to your choosing that are in desperate needs of homes. But be sure to know that you will bring home kennel cough , pnemonia or some rotten disease. So don't expect your adoption fee will be the only thing you'll be spitting out of your pocket the first two weeks. See we can't just GIVE you a dog because you "MIGHT" be a good home . How do we know if you're a good home. You can fabricate your life and home to the greatest extent and still be lying through your teeth. First come first serve as long as you don't come out and say the pet will be an outside pet. Or you'll be walking it off leash. or something drastic. See we have adoption contracts that specifically state that YOU MUST BRING THE PET back to us if you can NO LONGER keep. Which secures the animals future. We're a safe haven ...we're not gods. We're the hands of the lord that give these animals a second chance at life and if some absalutely desirably adorable puppies come in that can contribute to the lives of saving others by getting a larger adoption fee then by all means. ANYTHING for those whom might not get a second chance. ANYTHING to be the savour of the dog nobody wants. Tell me if you want to give a dog a home and don't want to pay a large adoption fee we have Dixie whom is 30 pounds 1 yr old and up for adoption for $25.00. Abandoned at a Truck stop and desperately needing a home. Would you want her??? I bet you your answer is no. You would rather that cute adorable innocent puppy that never seen a rotten moment in it's life. Hense another reason why puppy adoption are higher. Gives the unwanted a better chance at finding a home. Anyways. My fingers are tired and so is my soul for having to waste my time on the ignorant and uneducated. But since I have just educated you on the world of rescue I would hope that you would apologize to my fellow friend and rescue partenr Prancingpaws and forever in your future just be "greatful" that there are people like us that open our doors to the unwanted and homeless. Tell me would you do what we do??? and if you would why aren't you doing it?
My email back to her sorry so long. I just couldn't believe she had the nerve to go off like that.
First off Melissa did I strike a nerve? I think so. There is no reason for you to go off in your email the way you do. I do know how much rescues costs. I have volunteered for rescue centers. I have rescued two animals myself, a cat and a pug. So don’t pretend that I am ignorant and uneducated. You pretty much stated what I had said before, whoever has the money first, and whoever “seems like a good home” will get the dog.
Don’t sit there and type away about how I don’t know anything, and just want a “cute puppy for free” I was just browsing your site and could not believe the price you were asking. Excuse me for trying to help an animal in need. The only reason I saw the puppies was because they were pug mixed, and since I own a pug I felt I might be able to help, NOT because it was a puppy. I got my pug a year and a half old. You are very judgemental and rude. I understand the work you do, and I think it is great, but listing a fee that high turns others away from, because they do no know what your efforts behind that fee are. Doesn’t make me or anyone else questioning the adoption fee uneducated or ignorant. If you looked at my email, I never once called you guys names or accused you of anything. I asked why such a high fee. You are placing a high fee on the puppies to pay for other expenses, but not everyone would know you are trying to open a new center, not everyone would think that is what you are using the money for. Being a pet owner I know what it costs to take care of my pets. It all depends on what may happen to them and the price of the vet. I will not apologize to anyone, for I did nothing wrong. You must feel guilty about something if you felt the need to go off in your email the way you did. If you feel your price is just, why did you change the add? It no longer list the adoption price. I am sure you changed it because I am NOT the only one who commented on it. If anyone owes anyone an apology, you owe me one. You don’t go off on someone calling them ignorant and uneducated for questioning your prices, not very friendly, and not very professional. You say the average price is 150.00-250.00 a puppy, yet you are charging 400.00 to take care of other expenses, and believe it or not that scares people off regardless what you use the money for. You say I may be a liar when I say I have a good home, you may be one too. Well like I said before I wasn’t aiming to offend anyone, I questioned your prices, and get this long email on how I know nothing. If I could devote all my time I would, but I do volunteer. I wish you and the shelter the best of luck, next time though think before you TYPE, your email is way out of line!!