Anyone out there have experience with a goldendoodle? We see all of the darling puppy pics on the internet but not so many pics of them as grown dogs. I am not entirely sold on the whole idea of this particular hybrid..a golden retriever and a standard Poodle but my husband is interested in them because the coats are low to non shedding. I like Goldens and everything about them. I don't like the Standard poodles long nose, long legs and poodley coat. If a full grown "doodles" coat looks like Standard Poodles i won't like it. Regardless of how cute the puppies are!
You may not want to hear this but when mixing 2 pure bred dogs it is a crap shoot. The dog could have curly nonshedding hair, a full golden coat that sheds like crazy or something in between. You will probably not know until the dog is grown what kind of hair it will end up having.
from what i've seen the goldendoodles have a weird looking coat. It's kind of wavy but (to me) poodle-ish too. The looks vary. I don't know anything about them.You never know what your gonna get with the designer breeds. This is a designer dog test; there is 2 pictures of a goldendoodle on there.
Hey, thanks everyone. I agree that you never know what you may get with a hybrid puppy. The breeders all gush about how great the temperments are and that IS very important of course. i just feel weird spending $ on one of these designer dogs if you aren't exactly sure what it will look like.
If it's called a golden doodle it's by someone breeding for money not someone breeding to better their dogs or because they care. Likely they didn't test for anything. So you then pay more money than I would pay for a championed parented purebred dog on a crap shoot from a backyard breeder.
They also then aren't breeding for temperment. It's been discussed on here and other forums before as to goldendoodles peopel have met.. Were they intelligent stable animals? Generally not. That could be a giant issue in the long run.
to mafiaprincess: Hmm, well, I wouldn't want to make any blanket statements about hybrid breeders being in it only for the money.Yes, some are probably jumping in on the "craze" and procucing batches of Goldendoodles for cash. Those are the people who cannot answer my questions when I call to enquire. But some breeders are working at it more scientifically I think.
I have come across several goldendoodle breeders (via the web) who DO test for genetic diseases in their breeding dogs for hip, eye problems etc. and provide papers clearing their parents of these and other hereditary defetcts.
Actually, the hybrid idea isn't new. I think that ALL AKC recognized purebred dogs were once hybrids themselves.Somewhere along the line in history, breeders selectively matched certain types together, repeatedly and voila...a purebred was created.The day may come when the goldendoodle gets its recognition as a true breed.
I am probably not going to be first in line to pay big bucks for one right now.
We have had luck with a shelter mutt and a shelter kitty over the years AND have also paid big money for purebred dogs...the mutts outlived the pures!
***Edited By: hollygirl on 10/18/2006 9:31:53 PM*** Reason: part of message for one poster
huskyhauler, thanks for those suggestions. The Wheatons are similiar looking to some of the "doodles", yes. I have only met two wheatons and both were very hard to housetrain, which scareds me a little. could be a weird coincidence.
They were hybrids but they were bred for a purpose. All of the designer breeds just showed up all of a sudden. I mean, I don't think that the purebreds of today were all created at once. People are just breeding all these designer dogs just because it's the craze.
If you are looking into so called hybrids, maybe you need to do a heck of a lot more research. If it has a cutsie designer mutt name, than 99.9% of the breeders out there are yes, doing it for MONEY. There are a tiny tiny amount of breeders out there trying to do it right, in all the ways a great purebred breeder would to get their dogs to actually breed true. Those are the only ones who aren't doing it for the money.
Majority of everyone else fits in the big book of backyard breeders excuses. There's nothing to better if you aren't trying to get even tempered dogs that are the best of the best and breeding hopefully in your future true.. to get some sort of standard goign on.
And all those AKC, CKC and UKC breeds breed true. They long long ago stopped being a hybrid. If you are looking at breeders selling at high prices for what is still a mutt, those aren't the ones who will be ending up with dogs with any recognition in the next 50 or more years.
If all your mutts outlived your pures, I'd be questioning from what stock of pures you got yours out of.
And about all pures being mixed once... yes. That's true. But they were mixed to prove a certain purpose... or task. Not cuz everyone has one, or everyone else is breeding them.
To genetically test a mixed breed, you'd have to be doing ALL tests for either breed. You have no idea what certain genetics will play in each pup. Some could look more golden, more poodle, some can shed, some cannot.
As a vet tech we have several goldendoodles in the clinic and each and everyone has health issues. Hips, eyes, and ear issues but most of all bad alligeries to food and most everything air born. They still shed since they are part golden and goldens shed. Most of them have a rough hair coat.
The ones in our clinic look like wolfhounds and kind of feel like them too.
I don't think much of the temperment, half the doodles we see we have to muzzle to work on the owner's are asking about behavior problems.
I wouldn't jump on the bandwagon just yet on any of theses so called designer breeds. There are millions of wonderful pets put in shelters and put down every year, we don't need more, we need to find homes for the homeless.
merico...After our beloved dogs died, we DID question the breeders in both cases and found them very unwilling to listen! It was heartbreaking and maddenning. Before we purchased our purebred puppies we did the research:travelled miles and miles, chose breeders with great references and interviewed owners of past llitters, met both parent dogs, got all of the official AKC papers, health clearances etc and still, two dogs died of cancer.
"Before we purchased our purebred puppies we did the research:travelled miles and miles, chose breeders with great references and interviewed owners of past llitters, met both parent dogs, got all of the official AKC papers, health clearances etc and still, two dogs died of cancer."
Please understand that 'health clearences' can mean a number of things. And just because your dogs are OFA excellent in everything they can be, does not mean that every single puppy will be graced with that good luck.
Maywoos story is about as real as it gets; my own vet has had issues with the poos/doodles and crossbreeds coming in from breeders who didn't do their research. They only wanted to see the cute puppies. Not deal with the consequences of what comes from cute puppies.
You did your research, do even more. You traveled many miles, you might have to travel many more. AKC papers aren't going to mean much at all, I hope you know that. That will just tell you your dog is registered, and give you an idea of what it's coming from by mere namesake mostly.
If you think SCWT's would be a difficult breed for you, then I highly suggest you steer clear of any mixed breed being sold by a breeder, and do buckets more research on low-shedding breeds. Having a dog is going to hit hard times, no breed trains in a snap, they all have their qwerks. Then, you have the individual dog, and trust me, I have 15, they DONT always do what you want. I spend hours a day working with my dogs, and even my 9 year old Alaskan Husky still chooses to disobey sometimes. Things happen...that's part of the joy of owning a dog.
Why not look into Airedales, if Wheaties really do scare you with your experiences? Or a Laekenois, Bouvier...there are a good number of breeds that meet your low-shed requirements. However, you can't narrow it down but so much.