Good Morning All, First let me finally introduce myself (since I forgot that part back on the 13th). I am the proud new puppymom of a 12 wk old Irish bred Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier who I absolutely adore. I spent a lot of time searching out this pup, as I am spending a lot of time loving and training her, some days better than others, haha. My post today is not whether I should or shouldn't get a dog fence, but rather which one is preferred and why. I have read the information from both companies, but I think users have the best knowlege; pros and cons. For those of you that think I am unfair for considering using a system, I know all to well the heartache of losing a wonderful energetic pet to being hit by a car. Not only was he hit, but left on the side of the road; not to be found until springtime only to make me grieve again. So 21 years later I have decided to welcome a new family member and to be a better pet owner by providing her with the necessities. A loving family, warm shelter;food, medical care and most importanly safety. I want for her to be free and not attached to a leash. I don't intend to use it as a pet sitter, but for those days I can't run fast enough to catch her (she is a young terrier, I am aging..haha) I want to allow her to be off her leash, and know she won't be chasing those cars that I already see her paying too much attention to and already chasing from her leash.
I have an invisible fence to keep my 11 year old Rott/Lab mix from going over the fence. I absolutely love it. I had never heard of dog watch before this forum. I think Dog Watch is cheaper but I don't the specific differences.
The things I liked when I chose Invisible Fence were the guarantee on the collar. It is guaranteed for life. If it is broken for any reason they will replace it free. There is no beeping to warn the dog of the boundry they are shocked when they hit it. I liked this because dogs are not dumb and have actually been known to hit the beep until it wears down the battery and then go through the fence. Batteries for invisible fence need to be changed every 90 days. They put you on a plan and send them so you don't forget. (I think it was like $60 for the year) If after one year the fence is not keeping your dog in (they will come out and retrain for free) you can get your money back.
No offense intended, PCL, but you should get your system checked out. The warning should come before the correction, otherwise it doesn't make sense. What good is a warning if it happens while what it's warning you about is already happening?
Our invisible fencing system was owner-programmable to start the warning chirps at 5,10,15,20 feet before the boundary was reached and a correction was delivered. You could also choose how wide the correction area should be. The corrections could be applied for 10,15,20 feet on either side of the wire. You could also choose the frequency of the correction, from a constant correction to corrections every 1,2,3 seconds.
In all honesty, though, we had this system 10 years ago, maybe it's not as flexible now as it was then.
I've had mine for two years. I like the fact that it does not chirp before the correction. My dog knows where the boundry is. While training there are covers on the prongs that deliver the correction so that the dog just hears the chirp but no shock. Once the dog learns where the boundry is the plastic covers are removed. I researched the kind you put in yourself and all of those deliver the chirp before the correction. I talked to several people who put them in themselves (not invisible fence) and they had to stop using the fence because their dog learned to let it chirp until the battery went dead and no more shock.
I think LifeofRiley has Dog Watch. She can probably give you her perspective on that brand.
I'm glad you're happy with the way yours works, PCL. Is it the actual Invisible Fence brand? Out of all the options that were available with ours (the original Invisible Fence, purchased from Invisible Fence, installed by us), not having a warning at all wasn't one of them. Can you have a warning if you so choose?
I guess our dogs were stupes 'cause once trained, hearing that warning chirp made them back off instantly. They never figured out that they could wear down the batteries. Maybe having two acres invisibly fenced in gave them enough room to roam that they never felt the need to go elsewhere.
***Edited By: gbroxon on 10/21/2006 3:49:03 PM*** Reason: Add.
I have the original invisible fence installed by invisible fence. They did not give me an option of having the beep be a warning before the shock. I would not have wanted it as I live on 1/3 acre. It would have restricted her area to much. As I recall that was one of the selling points to their system over the ones you get from Home Depot.
I have the Dog Watch system and I love it. The batteries only need to be replaced once every 2 years.They send you a notice to let you know when they need to be replaced, the receivers they'll replace the old ones with the new ones as they update them ,everything is warrenteed. If a receiver breaks ,they'll replace it free of charge , if something is going on with your fence they'll come out and take a look at it ,I think the best of all is if you move you can have the fence moved and reinstalled for a small fee. The Dog Watch system also has the beeps before the shock , and strength of the shock can be set to your dogs personality. Tigger is on high where as Piper is set middle of the road.
Ah, maybe that's the reason for the difference then, PCL. The total area to be fenced in. Makes sense. I'm glad it's working for you. I loved it (as did my dogs...two acres of freedom). I was unhappy to hear from my dog's breeder that it's not a good idea for hounds (I have a Basenji).
I went with neither the dog watch or invisible fence brands. But I also installed it myself. I used the petsafe brand invisible fence system. Had great luck with it, bout one used for 5 years, moved and used it until we added a visible fence to the yard.
There are two strengths of collars one for small dogs another for the stubborn large dogs. Even come in nano technology now. You can set the warning distance as close or as far as you want it. with the warning tone first then the shock if they continue
I did find that people are ignorant and don't understand how the fence works even after telling them until your blue in the face.
One last thing to be aware of is that none of the invisible fencing brands are to be used on a pup under 6 months old as a safety precaution.
Thanks for the input. I am planning ahead an wont use it until she is older, but want to get it in before snowfall. and the ground freezes, gotta love those New England winters. And what better christmas present could i ask for.
MaryJane, this was my original post I am not sure you read it entirely.....
My post today is not whether I should or shouldn't get a dog fence, but rather which one is preferred and why. I have read the information from both companies, but I think users have the best knowledge; pros and cons. For those of you that think I am unfair for considering using a system, I know all to well the heartache of losing a wonderful energetic pet to being hit by a car. Not only was he hit, but left on the side of the road; not to be found until springtime only to make me grieve again.
My response to you is my pet is a Wheaten if you have any knowledge about Wheatens you’ll know they love to jump and I don’t mean hop and skip. Second I live in the country where the scenery is beautiful and don't feel that because I would like to protect my dog I have to put up a ten foot fence and o block the view to keep her safe. I think it is more inhumane to allow her outside to be boxed in, or to do nothing and lose another beautiful pet. Lastly, why is it your posts seem to be so negative? Clearly your post would have been sufficient suggesting a good old fashioned fence and not be so offensive as though I am treating my pet inhumanely. Or at least include why you feel this way with your wisdom and knowledge why a dog fence in your opinion is inhumane and please don’t cut and paste. I too have done the research and wanted to hear from other owners’ experiences. I can make a more informed decision based on others actual experiences. Not solely on what is written, but what I have no experience with.
***Edited By: Quinnsmom on 10/24/2006 8:49:02 PM*** Reason: :(
Okay Maryjane now you have really.....made me mad! How dare you suggest that I would do something to my dogs that is inhumane? I guess allowing her to jump the fence, run out into the street and get hit by a car would be more humane. You seem to have an opinion on every topic yet most of what you say is just plain bullcrap!
I will have you know that I treat my animals as good, if not better, than most people in my life (except my children and don't you dare go there). They have the best of everything. The best food I can find, the best veterinary care and the love of my family. I would never, ever do something to harm them.
Bring it on Maryjane because from what I have read....I can take you!
We're having an invisible fence installed in a few places around our property.
I have 14 sled dogs, they can jump higher than my husband stands, when they really want to. I too have beautiful scenery, and will not put up a 12 froot privacy fence (because I'm sure they could scale that too).
MaryJane, I doubt you have any real experience with this type of equipment, and I'm sure you're one of those people who hates certain types of collars too because you THINK it hurts the dog...but I assure you, that I'm probably a lot older than you, and have had more dogs in my life than you have seen, and that goes for quite a few people on this board...and we would never treat our animals any kind of inhumane.
I have to agree with MaryJane, the best fence is a traditional fence. A wood or chain link fence will keep the dog on your property and it will also keep the outside world out. It works when the power is out and when someone forgets to put the collar on the dog.
I have a back up power pack for when the power goes out. Traditional fences my dogs would dig under or climb over. Believe me when I say I know Tigger all to well and she's capable of doing.This fence keeps them in. If she wants something with her prey drive ,she'll dig. With the invisible fence she wont do it.I have my piece of mind and it's extremely humane.It's better then seeing her cut herself on a fence ,maybe hang herself , or get out and get hurt or hurt another animal in trying to get out.