Hi All Well, those of you who know my situation know that I adopted a Beagle last year from the MSPCA. We didn't know at the time but he was severely abused.
Fast forward to now (1 year later) Bagel (the Beagle) has bitten my son twice, me a few times and has gotten my husband a few times.
Well this morning as I was going to get his collar on he just freaked on me and bit my knee, got my hand and when my husband went to get him, he nailed my husband good - even drawing blood.
My little boy freaked and then Bagel took off outside. Hubby eventually found him and he was back to normal.
I do think it may be time to euthanize Bagel because his behavior now is so unpredictable. Please help me with my decision. I tried to help this little soul for a year and now he's just getting worse :(
That's a tough one and a very hard decision to make.
What have you tried so far? Have you seen an animal behaviorist? My oldest beagle had been abused as well - but after spending a lot of time teaching him to trust again - I can honestly say he's the best dog that I've ever had... he's 11 now.
That being said - he only bit my son once... and that was a warning bite... if he were snapping at my son - it would be time for him to go.
Only you can make the decision of what needs to be done. Ask yourself: Have I done everything I can? Have I done everything that I'm willing to do? Is the dog enjoying life or is she in fear all the time? Is my family enjoying this dog - or are they always worried that she will bite?
Whatever the decision - you have to trust that you are making the right decision.
I have tried everything with this little guy, and we've even altered our lives around him to avoid being bitten b/c he was so abused. You can't even lift anything up around him he cowers in fear and screams. I have never seen an animal like this....breaks my heart.
That is the major reason why we have tried to help this guy because he has never known real love. We love him and my children love him but the dog is so fearful and very rarely shows any confidence despite our best efforts. He even has a doggie playmate that is his buddy - but that doesn't prevent the biting incidents.
There is no rhyme or reason to the incidents. He was biting us when we first got him. I figured it was b/c he was unsure of the house and fearful and those were warning bites.
Then he bit my son b/c he was on my son's blanket. I was really upset then but realized that this dog was abused and tried to work around it.
Since that incident he has just become so unpredictable that I fear one bite will send one of my children to the hospital and I can't have that.....
So I guess the answer to the question is - yes, I feel I have tried everything for this little man and it's probably the most humane thing for him to put him to sleep.....
That being said... it may seem like there is no rhyme or reason as to why he's biting - but remember, in his mind there is. He feels threatened.
You might look into Beagle rescues - perhaps there is someone who doesn't have kids who has time, energy and expertise in rehabbing abused animals.
There is no guilt in putting your child above a dog. There is no guilt in saying, "I'm not qualified to deal with a dog that has severe issues like this". The only thing anyone can ask is that you make the most humane, the kindest most caring decision that you can. And that if you do indeed decide to put your dog down, you stand beside him all the way so that he doesn't feel more afraid than he needs to be.
I'd never abandon this little guy. He deserves the world and has known nothing but love and affection this past year so I at least know that. He's had a warm soft place to snooze and a buddy to play with, great food to eat and cuddles when he wanted them.....
I just wish that there was more that I could do for him but in reality I am a mom first and dog owner second....my children's safety is my priority and if this little guy can't thrive in my home, then I will do the humane thing and hold him while he goes to heaven.
I don't believe putting him in another home will help him. We are his 3rd home already....sad but true....he has just been through trauma that I can't even imagine. It's times like these where you wish that they could talk....
I'm glad to see you are still looking for alternative ways to help Bagel.........you had me crying earlier. I once had to give up an Old English Sheepdog because she bit my son in the face, and he almost lost his eye. Once she was with a family without children she was fine. Best wishes!
#1 you said BEAGLE bit me again. Not "my dog..", not "our dog..."just, beagle. So, I am not sure if you are aware of it, but it sounds like you are already emotionally unattached. In my opinion, you need to start looking around for a rescue for everyones peace of mind. Including, Bagle.
And 2nd thing is, if you are afraid of your dog...they can sense it. Especially if you are anxious or nervous. It makes them anxious and nervous. So if you are approaching him and you are unsure, he will react to that and very well might freak out because of the vibes he is picking up.
I think surrendering him to a place that knows how best to handle a dog like him. If and when they decide that they can't help him, at least you know you have done everything that you could for this guy.
does he look like that all the time? Because he looks real mad about something.
I have no clue what to do. I was bit by a yorkie the other day and someone said they had a yorkie bite them and instead of pulling there hand back they shoved it in farther ad the dog stoped biting. though in your case I dont know if that would work seeing as he was abused.
Maby hes trying to keep from liking you. Kinda like when a Kid is moved from foster home to foster home they start pulling away from people because they dont want to get hurt agin. maby its something like that. I dont know if a dog is capable of that but i wouldnt dought it.
maby a little tough love would help. Give him tons of love but also be tough with him let him know there is no way hes gonna get away with chewing on people. Try timeouts every time he bites he has to sit in his room, we do it to rocky when he brings food to the living room he has to go sit in his room and he gets all sad and he has not done it for almost a month now. A crate would probly work better the a bed room though.
maby have the kids help you teach him some fun tricks Like jumping through a hoop for treats crawling across the floor for treats things like that It may help build a bond and the kids will just love it.
dont give up on the little guy. I agree that finding him a new home probly wont help concerding he has been moved around so much and I think that may have soemthing to do with it. as long as you think there is some hope dont give up on him.
does he usualy bite hard or are they more like warning bites. I know you said he got hubby to bleed but was that a warning bite gone wrong or a real bite? The yorkie that attacked my leg snagged my leg and it almost started to bleed, It had a dent and there was blood under the skin but it was because his tooth snagged my leg he had ahold of my pants.
Given the fact that he is biting adults and children alike and his extreme unpredictabilty, you are probably going to have a lot of trouble finding a rescue willing to take on a known biter. He'd be a legal liability.
As sonjavan said, it is only your decision but I think humane euthanization is what I'd do in a similar situation, mostly because I'd feel horrible if I released the dog into someone elses care and he did seroius damage to them, even if they knew his biting history.
I have a friend with an incrediable dog, except he is aggressive and it's unpredicatable. This dog is not a slouch either. His handler, who is a dear friend, cannot see the horror that lurks. We have tried everything, we have given each method more than enough time to take effect and the dog is just going to have it his way. I am one who will give every dog more than thier fair chance. I do not take ending a life lightly. It is a hard choice. With my friends dog it is a choice that should have been made months ago. Now, sitting on the sidelines. I am waiting for the inevitable. The dog whom, has bitten people that have been than more understanding and willing to help. That is the blessing. The curse is when the dog bites someone else whom could give a crap about him or the dog. Or worse someone who cannot defend themseves against this dog, which I believe this dog could kill a grown 200 lbs man. They will have every right to do what they must. Some dogs are not saveable, or training has not evolved far enough to figure out how to. The man who owns this dog...is a dog trainer, through and through. He holds esteem in the dog training world with the best. And this one is not saveable. So the answer you must find, are you able to save this dog. can you change the behavior, and then can you trust it to never to come back. Some dogs are so damaged thier is no coming back, they are scared for life. I think you know the answer to your question you are just looking for reassurance it's the right one. If it were me and my dog repeatdly bit my kid. I would have the dog put down, not as punishment, not because I am over protective and dramatic. But because my rational thought tells me, this dog thinks biting is an option, and I know that dogs do not think in terms of Bad or Good. He is not Evil, He just thinks biting is a means to get things to go his way, or to get something to stop. Once that ball gets rolling, it is very hard, and sometimes impossible to stop.
And sometimes...for good of the pack...one dog must go. sacrifice one to save many.
***Edited By: gunny on 10/24/2006 9:57:48 PM*** Reason: q
I don't think that the dog looks angry... I think he looks... like a Beagle.
Well, like I said yesterday - only you know what you are comfortable doing. You will have to make that decision and stand proud in the fact that you are making the best decision for all involved.
However, please be careful about letting your son lay on Bagle like he is in that picture. It would just break my heart to log on to TP and see a post... "Bagle bit my sons face..."
You said that Bagle has been with you a year... it took my Beagle about twice that time to learn to trust again - but he never was a biter - he would cowher. It may take some more time... and again, the question is, can you afford another 6 months to a year of worrying about whether or not your dog is going to bite your family? Can you be hyper-vigilant in making sure that Bagle isn't left alone with your kids - that he's not given the opportunity to bite. Watch for warning signsl... does he get a look in his eye when he's about to bite? What triggers it? Is he tired? Learn those signs and teach your kids to watch for them...