hybrid /'haybrid/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hahy-brid] Pronunciation Key
–noun 1. the offspring of two animals or plants of different breeds, varieties, species, or genera, esp. as produced through human manipulation for specific genetic characteristics. 2. a person or group of persons produced by the interaction or crossbreeding of two unlike cultures, traditions, etc. 3.anything derived from heterogeneous sources, or composed of elements of different or incongruous kinds: a hybrid of the academic and business worlds. 4.a word composed of elements originally drawn from different languages, as television, whose components come from Greek and Latin.
–adjective 5.bred from two distinct races, breeds, varieties, species, or genera. 6.composite; formed or composed of heterogeneous elements. 7.composed of elements originally drawn from different languages, as a word.
[Origin: 1595–1605; < L hybrida, hibrida a crossbred animal]
—Synonyms 5. Hybrid, mongrel refer to animals or plants of mixed origin. Hybrid is the scientific term: hybrid corn; a hybrid variety of sheep. Mongrel, used originally of dogs to denote the offspring of crossings of different breeds, is now extended to other animals and to plants; it is usually deprecatory, as denoting mixed, nondescript, or degenerate breed or character: a mongrel pup. —Antonyms 5. purebred, thoroughbred.
Latin hibrida, hybrida, mongrel.] hybrid·ism n. hybrid·ist n. hy·bridi·ty (h-brd-t) n.
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law - Cite This Source Main Entry: hy·brid Pronunciation: 'hI-brid Function: adjective : consisting of diverse components: as a : of, relating to, or being a lawsuit brought by an employee under the Labor Management Relations Act against both the employer for breach of contract and the union for breach of the duty of fair representation b : of, relating to, or being representation of a criminal defendant in which the defendant represents himself or herself with the assistance of a lawyer
adj : produced by crossbreeding [syn: crossed, interbred, intercrossed] n 1: a word that is composed of parts from different languages (e.g., `monolingual' has a Greek prefix and a Latin root) [syn: loanblend, loan-blend] 2: a composite of mixed origin; "the vice-presidency is a hybrid of administrative and legislative offices" 3: an organism that is the offspring of genetically dissimilar parents or stock; especially offspring produced by breeding plants or animals of different varieties or breeds or species; "a mule is a cross between a horse and a donkey" [syn: crossbreed, cross]
In another thread, Joquelle stated the Dachshunds/Bostons are not a hybrid but rather just a mutt. I wrote that she was wrong and that a mix IS a hybrid. She tried to prove me wrong but IMO only proved herself wrong in trying. This is not the first time someone has quoted the dictionary on what Hybrid means.
I'd have to agree that the dictionary proves you right then...a hybrid as defined below is the same as a mongrel: —Synonyms 5. Hybrid, mongrel refer to animals or plants of mixed origin. Hybrid is the scientific term: hybrid corn; a hybrid variety of sheep. Mongrel, used originally of dogs to denote the offspring of crossings of different breeds, is now extended to other animals and to plants; it is usually deprecatory, as denoting mixed, nondescript, or degenerate breed or character: a mongrel pup. —Antonyms 5. purebred, thoroughbred.
My question is this... why does it matter? If someone is in love with their "hybrid", "mixed breed", "Mutt", "mongrel", "designer dog", doodle-butt - whatever... why does it matter?
The definition itself says that the term "Mongrel" is used in a deprecatory manner - which means "disapproval" - why should anyone "disapprove" of someone elses mutt?
Here's the thing - I don't agree with the breeders that are intentionally breeding puggles and doodlebutts and designer breeds... BUT - I'm a firm believer that in order to educate someone you have to meet they where they are.... starting by telling someone that they're puppy that they are in love with and just paid boo-koo bucks for is a "mongrel" is not going to open their ears to learn from you. Nobody wants to be called a fool - and that's what many of the posts seem...
Analogy: When I was single and pregnant -many people wanted to talk to me about the "Morality" of my situation...
Some people approached me and congratulated me for making the decision to be a single mom - then talked me about how I came to be in that situation...
Others - asked me why I would want to put myself in the position of having a "b*stard child"... I refused to talk to these people...
Both types of people wanted to say the same basic thing - and both were right - I was going to be a single mom and yes, my son was without a father and therefore, a b*stard... but I didn't like the derogatory connotation involved in the 2nd scenario...
Read somewhere in the last month that they were reclassifying wolf x dog offspring. Since it was from the same genius, they were considering no longer having it classed as a hybrid.. which would make a stronger case for 2 separate dog breeds offspring just being a mutt, and not a 'hybrid'.
Point is...these dogs don't need to be called hybrids, because it's just a fancy name to make the buyers and sellers feel better. If someone walked into a shelter 10-20 years ago, they'd say they had a mutt, or mixed breed..not a hybrid.
Marketing ploys reach the animal world too, and they obviously have an effect on people.
Shelters need what ever marketing ploy they can get to place as many animals as they can-- or they will die. It is silly that they don't get a little 'creative' with maybe some at least cute names for some maybe not so cute dogs.
Shelters already tend to change breed names in hopes of getting them adopted out faster. Buying into marketing ploys by backyard breeders like that will only make people think it is okay to buy from those people.
Husky - I totally see your point... why call them something "fancy" if what they really are is a mutt?
You said that it's a way to make buyers and sellers "feel better"
Why would you want to make a buyer "feel bad"? ESPECIALLY - if they've already bought the dog. Educate them so that they make a better choice later... but you can only educate someone if you can get them to hear you out. You will not get them to hear you out if they feel that you are insulting them...
We can all stand behind... being right, being blunt, being matter of fact... it doesn't change the fact that all we succeed in doing is ticking someone off who could stand to learn something from our knowledge.
It's called diplomacy and tact - and it doesn't make you wrong... it just allows you to be heard.
BTW - I'm not saying you (Husky) don't have tact - I've seen many of your posts and you're generally pretty good at getting your point across without being insulting.
Would love to take credit for that name... but alas I can't. One of the dad's of one of the kids on my sons football team has a dog...
He brought him to the field one day and I said... "Aww... what a sweet dog... what kind of dog is this?" And he said, with a completely straight face... "He's a not-so rare but very expensive doodle-butt". I burst out laughing and said "A What???"
So he explained that he and his wife had fallen for the "designer dog thing". They went looking for a "labradoodle" - and they found someone who bred them... so he paid $1500 for a "labradoodle".
He said several weeks after they brought him home he was walking his pup and saw another "labradoodle"... so he stopped to talk to the owner and asked the guy where he got his dog... and the owner answered that he got his dog for free in the mall parking lot... his dog had been a "mistake"...
He realized that he had been taken in by the hype... but he still loves his dog. So instead of saying it's a mutt or a "labradoodle" (which he feels stupid using now) - he calls it the "not-so rare but very expensive doodle-butt"....
I've always tried my best, reasoning with people who are trying to find designer breeds, AND people who are unknowingly buying from puppy mills, etc. Some people do not want to listen. They really believe that supporting people (though they dont think it's supporting, it's 'saving') will help to end this problem.
Overpopulation is nothing to them. It's better to save one life compared to hundreds more following. This type of breeding, being irresponsible and really just egotistical, has always hit me close. Even I am branded sometimes for being a designer dog breeder, because there has been such a fine created between designer, and purpose. I'm not one to fly off the handle about things, but I appreciate when someone listens to reason, and get heated when someone who has owned one or two dogs in their life tries and tells me or anyone else who has much more experience that they do not know what they're talking about.
Education seems to be the least of anyone's concern these days when purchasing a life, and ultimately, one of the biggest responsibilities there is. I can't see how that's even possible, with so much offered at the click of a button these days. I guess, even with millions of voices of reason, and countless educated explinations, the thick-headed person will not cave-in to admit they are wrong, or change their ways.
HH - When we can get people to stop having kids and abandoning them.... we might have a chance of getting people to research dogs before they buy them - until then, sometimes we have to educate after they've already bought them...
I just thought of something in the car. Why is it ok for Burpee to take 2 different varieties (breeds) of sweet corn, make something more desirable (a super-sweet strain, like 'Kandy-corn') and sell it as a hybrid?
They are not mixing corn and peas to make what they call hybrids. It has been accepted for years. No one fusses.
I don't think it is the name or the fact that it is or isn't a hybrid-- this thread proves it is just about the fact that people are intentionally making money on dogs.
People do it all the time with purebreds, but to create a mix that people desire is a taboo. People will always try to fill the demand.
Some of the cute tiny 'mixes' that they are advertising are cuter puppies than most any purebred puppy I have seen. They look 'strange' and different.
If it is going to be a pet anyway, I don't see what the darned difference is if some one buys a 'mixed, hybrid, whatever' PET or a purebred 'PET'.
Hopefully both would be altered and NOT end up in the shelter, because HOPEFULLY the BUYERS that make these purchases don't put them there.