Once again, that term, "Purebred snob" is being tossed about like spit in a storm.
Speaking as one who would fall into that category, I'd like to say this... I LOVE my dogs. I did about a year of research on both the breed AND the breeder before I brought my 1st Pyr into my home. I wanted a Pyr, because I wanted the physical and temperamental attributes that have been bred true into this breed of dog. I didn't want SOME of it's attributes combined with those of another breed.
I also loved my purebred Lab, Sheba, who was a wonderful part of our family for 17 years.
Now, having said that...I have also loved more than a fair share of mixed breeds/mutts/Heinz 57s in my life. These were dogs, not BREEDS that had (and still have) their own special place in my heart.
Bottom line is that in the case of the mixed breeds that have shared my life over the past 55 years, they were rescues, pound puppies, shelter dogs or those wandering the street that found a home with us.
We loved the DOG, breeding didn't matter as they were first, last and always COMPANIONS. They were NOT sought after because of the mix in their breeding, nor were they purchased or brought into our home as a status symbol, for breeding or for any reason other than companionship.
I don't think ANY of us can criticize someone for loving ANY dog, no matter the breeding that did or didn't go into that pup.
What the majority of poster on here are trying to do is inform the unwary and educate and tell you that when you pay upwards of $1,000.00 for a mixed breed pup, you would be better served (as would the animal world) if you looked at rescue.
The health issues are going to be about the same, the blood lines and guarantees of temperament as well (although shelter and rescue DO temperament test before sending a pup out into the world).
So, at the end of the day we "Purebred Snobs" can say, while we may have paid the same amount for our pup as you did for your mixed breed, we KNOW what we paid for , while only time will tell with your little designer pooch.
IS there anything wrong with loving your dog, no matter the pedigree? heck no! There'd be something wrong if you DIDN'T, but just because you've chosen to pay top dollar for a Lexus and got a Benz chassis with a VW engine, don't get testy when someone points it out to you.
Love 'em, mutts or purebred, just realize the difference and understand that when it comes to mixes, why pay for a purebred when rescue charges a nominal fee for just as much love in that little package?
So speaks one Purebred Snob.
***Edited By: pyrmom on 10/30/2006 5:54:40 AM*** Reason: *
A comment from yet another purebred snob. When I first got Kiba, being that she would have been my first dog and me being the sole person responsible for her, I want to 100% know what I was getting into: behaviors, temperment, etc. I didnt want to have a list of what could have gone wrong, how she couldve acted, etc.
Now that I consider myself a well-season dog owner, I am ready to get a mix breed. I feel that I am educated enough to deal what a mixed breed could throw at me.
And for those people that have mixed breeds, mutts, mongrels, designer dogs, etc.... Do you really feel the need to tell us that we just condemned one dog from the pound to death because we chose a purebred? Not everyone wants to just goto a shelter, pick any dog (even if you dont like how it looks, temperment, etc) just because???
I LOVE all dogs, whether big or small. NO dog is ugly. That doesnt say I wouldnt own one over the other.
I don't even like the vast majority of purebreds enough to own. I am a real snobby snob. I 'like' all dogs, I wish them no ill will or harm, yet..... there are so few dogs that I would want in my home.
When I was young, besides a beagle, Shih Tzu, and Chihuahua, we had at least 5 mixes, they were good dogs too. I loved them, but the mixes were generally big hairy dogs that were outside-- except one, and he was a chow/boxer mix and he was such a good dog, after he died that is why I decided to purchase and raise boxers.
So it was from the beginnings of a mix that brought my love of a purebred breed. I do want consistancy. The things that are important in my house are 1)Good with kids 2)Obedient 3)Short hair, low shedder 4)Look I like (and Boxer muzzles don't really occur in nature)
Again, I am not against any dog, I am glad people like their mixes. I would never tell any one what type of dog they should or shouldn't have, just as I wouldn't want any one telling me what was right for my home. Carry on!
Pyr - Who called you a snob? Let me at em, let me at em! That's got to be the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard!
Look, I'm not a purebred dog owner... I have my 2 beagles mixes that fill my heart with joy and love. I can't say that I'll NEVER be a purebred dog owner again (I once had a shih tzu), but for me, at THIS point in my life.... I enjoy the companionship of my dogs, I enjoy the love and snuggles and honestly? I really enjoy the fact that they're mutts... because there are very few dogs that look like them... Furthermore - I'll be honest, at this point in time - I need to save money for my sons education and I can't justify spending a couple thousand dollars on a purebred dog - not when our mutts are just fine with us...
That doesn't mean that I judge anyone who owns a purebred. Shoot... when I'm driving my Pontiac G6 down the street - heck yeah, I look at the Benz driving by and think.. "hey, nice car"... but at the end of the day I'm just thankful that I have a car with all the working parts to get me from point A to point B. I can certainly admire your purebred dogs and be perfectly content and in love with my mutts.
That all being said - I can see why some people who have "designer breeds" get insulted not by WHAT someone on the board is telling them - but by HOW it's being said. Ya don't walk up to a new mom and tell her that her baby has a face that only a mother could love... same goes with dogs..
There is a way to educate without insulting. MOST people on here do a very good job of doing just that - but there are some that are rude in the name of being blunt... and that's unfortunate because it's hard to listen to what someone else is saying when you feel you're being attacked.
Just my $.02. But seriously, anyone who calls purebred dog owners snobs need to step back and think a little before speaking.
***Edited By: sonjavon on 10/30/2006 9:35:19 AM*** Reason: typo
Wandering - because they were uneducated til they came here... they bought into the hype of a a doodle-butt and TRULY believe that they have the "1st of a brand new breed"... I think too - many people just think the name is "cute" - and let's face it "labradoodle" sounds MUCH cuter than "mutt"... and most everyone knows what the dog is a mix of....
I guess the bottom line is that we ALL our our furkids, no matter what breeding did or didn't go into them.
It's just that I get just as tired of the designer breed lovers claiming everyone who loves and owns a purebred is a snob who has no comprehension of how anyone could love a pet that isn't purebred. We DO understand how someone can love a cute, cuddly puppy, no matter how many breeds went into the mix. It's the paying big bucks when the SAME quality is available through rescue/she;ters that tend to astonish (me at least). Prejudice is a two way street in all aspects of life.
Seems to me the designer breed lovers are more than a little snobby when it comes to anyone who researches a specific breed and decidedes to purchase that dog from a reputable breeder. What matters is NOT the breed or breeds of dogs, but where they came from.
Doesn't anyone believe in fate and destiny? Maybe you give yourselves too much credit seeking and finding that perfect dog, purebred, designer, mix-breed, whatever.
Maybe it just so happens that compatable dogs and dog owners are destined to come together and we pay what ever is needed to have the dog that is meant for us. All the ridicule and insults in the world is not going to convince someone that they shouldn't have bought that puppy in the pet store or from the backyard breeder or that they're going to get a lemon of a dog from the pound.
If you want to spend thousands of dollars on the dog that's for you and you can afford it, GOOD FOR YOU!! If it just so happens to be in a pet store, SO WHAT!! Puppy mills ad backyard breeders will not feel the effect of you passing up that puppy in the window. That will have to come from something bigger than we are.
My dogs may be only a V,W. but I really don't like Mercedes Benz anyway and I wouldn't trade them in for one. Maybe someday when they're gone, I'll get a Lexus. Or I might just end up with an old Pinto station wagon.But if I find dog that's meant for me no matter where it is and or where it came from, I'm going to pay for it and I'm going to get it.
***Edited By: pitpat2az on 10/30/2006 10:54:07 AM*** Reason: ###
PitPat2AZ, my analogy wasn't meant to criticize ANY breed, simply state that when you PAY for a mixed breed and KNOW it for what it is, peachy..
You want a VW, you buy a VW and KNOW it's a VW, you want a Lexus, you buy a Lexus.. you DON"T pay top dollar for what's touted as a Lexus only to find it has a VW engine. Love mixed breeds, by all means, I know I do. Just DON'T delude yourself into believing that the "oodles..doodles, noodles and schnoodles" are in FACT a speific breed.
They are mixed breeds. No cutsie name is going to change that fact. If you'd (generalized, not anyone in particular) rather pay thousands for a mill pup, rather than under $100.00 for a rescue or shelter dog and you have the money to burn and don't mind supporting mills, hey go for it. No skin off my nose, I'm not paying your vet bils or purchase fees.
I don't live next door to a puppy mill, don't drive past them. I can say with a clear conscious that I don't support them in any way, shape or form, although I have had a hand in adopting a few of the "results" of their "breeding program" from the local shelter over the years.