My 9 month old puppy used to be house-broken and recently has started to rebell and goes on the carpet in the basement. (I know he is rebelling against something as he only goes in my house - if we are on our boat, or at my boyfriend' he is absolutely fine and has zero accidents.)
Luckily, I work from home and can keep an eye on him most of the time. When I have to leave the house, I either take him in the car, or leave him in his crate - no accidents in the crate as of yet. So far the longest he has stayed in the crate is about 90 minutes.
My boyfriend is very annoyed with me for leaving the dog in the crate - he thinks it is very cruel - my vet says crating is the right thing to do.
My question is how long can the puppy stay in his crate without it being cruel? In the mid-term future, I will need to spend some time in the office.
I hate to say this but since the time has changed my dogs go into there crate at 7:30 pm and right now it is 6 Am and I haven't heard a sound yet. I have a baby monitor on them.
I have never done this before. It more is like 8 to 5:30.They also didn't have any naps yesterday so that makes a difference also.
They just got up and I'm back!
What they say is if the pup is 2 months old they are good for 2 hours + 1 hour = 3 hours. If the pup is 6 months old + 1 = 7 hours. All the way up to 9 hours.
It is not cruel and they think of this as there den or room. Mine put themselves to bed most of the time. During the day he should be good in there for 3 to 4 hours if not more. If sleeping great if not give him a kong or sometype of chew toy to keep him happy.
***Edited By: WileyBlaze on 10/31/2006 8:24:22 AM*** Reason: *
a 9 month old dog is plenty old to be in the crate for an 8 or 9 hour workday. he'll be fine. explain to your bf that the crate is a den not a punishment. men can be such neanderthals, my idiot ex bf thought the crate was mean too.
I have always crated my dogs and do it for many reasons. But it may not be for some people.
I crate my 2 pups during the day while I work and either my husband or I come home and let them out at lunch. But they have been known to go all day.
My late pomeranian absolutely loved her crate. She thought of it as a safe place. When she was feeling ill she would all by herself go and rest in her kennel.
My new 6 month old papillon puppy is taking on the same feeling towards her crate and actually knows when it is time for me to go to work and goes running to her kennel. I always put a toy or 2 in there to keep them occupuied. I always make sure there is fresh water but not everyone agrees with water in the crate.
My ShihTzu on the other hand is not quite as fond of the crate probably because he is a total daddy's boy and would be perfectly happy on his daddy's pillow all day. But he also walks right into his kennel when it is time.
I am one of those people who let our pups sleep with us so they are only in there crates during the day.
I like to think the crate is for their safety. If they were to get into something in the house while I wasn't home and got sick I wouldn't know what to do. This way I know they are somewhat protected. Plus no potty accidents in the house...
***Edited By: sophiebelle on 10/31/2006 9:16:05 AM*** Reason: *
Oh my God, I can totally relate. My beagle is 9 months old and has to spend all day in the crate but recently he seems teriffied to go in there, he cries and tries to bite and claw his way out. I've tried making it comfortable for him by putting a pillow, a towel, his toys, but nothing works and now he has started to pee in there. He absolutely loves being around us and sleeps in the bed with us. I don't know what else to do, I can't let him roam free around the house because he will chew everything up. I come home from work to find his pillow and towel torn to pieces. and he was wet with pee. Help!!
I used to feed my dogs in their crates. That way they saw them as positive places to be.
Once they hit a year or so, they were allowed more freedom - depending on the damage they left behind in the house ;-)
My English Bully now has the run of the house. He spent the first 16 mths in a crate. 8-9hrs a day (normal work day) - first 6 mths I was available to come home at lunch and let him out for a quick pee.....
im having troubles to with crate training... i never crate trained bentley hes just about 11 months old now i felt bad for him to be in a cage all day, so i didnt do it. he sleeps with me and hubby and has run of the house- hes done ok with house breaking but still has accidents here and there. now i just got a new pup her name is daisy, and after reading about crate training more on this forum i decided to try it with her, she at first loved her crate and ran in there and would sleep and hide- for the first few days she did this ( i got her last friday so i havent even had her a week yet) but now she doesnt want to go in and sleep. she just plops down where ever. at night i was putting her crate in this puppy play pen thingie i got at petsmart, with the door open so she could sleep in her crate and then come out to pee on a potty pad, but after a few nights of that she started crying all night. so the past few nights i just put her doggie bed in the play pen she seemed to do alittle better. when i go to work i put her crate in this xpen i have so she can come out and play and eat and go potty and play its good sized for a little 2 pound pup she is. im sure she does cry but when i get home shes sleeping or playing . she doesnt hold her pee long at all i would say every 15 minutes she goes and after she eats shes pooping. she is 10 weeks old . but i havnet really started with the training part of it all because she is sick- i took her to the vet that monday knowing something was wrong with her, she has some sort of eye infection and also cocidia (sp) and also malnurished and is on special food from the vet. so ive been cutting her some slack till she gets better and then i will start with the potty training. shes all bones and no meat on her little body so i feel bad for her and she isnt social so im trying to bond with her and get her to trust us and come to us instead of running from us whne we walk by. should i give her more time and then do the crate thing? im kinda doing what ever makes her happy right now because i feel bad for her. she hasnt peed in her crate tho so thats good. she just walks outside and pees on the floor..
Buddy is in the crate about 9 hours 3 days a week once in a while I use my lunch hour to go home and take him out but its a 30 min drive each way. My husband is off on Wednesday and Thursday so he is home with him and I am off on weekends so it's just on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Fridays. How long is too long for him? Or does it depend on age, breed, etc.?
Yesh tapettyjohn Im sorry you're having such an ordeal with your pup. I almost hate to say it, but we did try to warn you about getting this puppy. Obviously your new breeder was a BAD one, as your puppy has clear signs of illness and is malnourished and extremely poor socialization. I have to wonder why you would encourage this bad breeder to breed even more sick puppies by buying her :P Anyway. To crate training..
I think that you're actually setting yourself up for failure with the cratetraining doing what you are doing now, which is removing her from the crate when she cries? That is what it sounds like you are doing, if I'm wrong I apologize. You never want to remove her from teh crate when she is crying (especially in the middle of hte night) unless it is to take her outside to go potty and then bring her back in to return her to the crate.
If she's going as soon as she is let out of the crate, instead of lettiing her walk out of the crate on her own, pick her up immediatlye after taking her out of the crate then take her straight outside. So she doesnt' have a chacne to walk a few steps and squat to urinate.
The fact that she's willing to sleep anywhere instead of only in her crate is actually a good thing, in that it shows she is more trusting of her environment, instead of only seeing the crate as a safe place, as it seemed like she did initially. With dogs that are so poorly socialized, all you can do is the best you can do. Try not to reassure her when she is showing signs of extreme fear and hesitation, as you may actually be encouraging her behavior. If she'll take them, keep treats handy. Try to spend sme personal time, with just you and her playing (no bentley) to help bond with her.
Oh and regardding buddy the beagle... 9 hours is a pretty long time for a dog to hold it, even one that is otherwise housetrained. Some dogs can go that long... some can't. Sounds like your pup may be one that can't go that long, so you may want to make more of an effort to come home and let him out at lunchtime.. (does he go potty in there the days you let him out at lunch?)
If he's tearing up stuff you put into the crate, don't put aything into the crate other than safe toys, like knog toys or something like that. He'll be fine sleeping just on the surface of the crate.
wow. Tappetty.... Sounds like your new unsocialized pup isn't such a dream. I am having a hard time believing that because, I was almost positive that you knew exactly what you were doing and exactly what you wanted!
You researched the mix of these two breeds and found your ethical, backyard malnourishing breeder for what, about a week?..
A puppy giving someone a hard time, go figure. Puppies demand patience and a routine.
minniyar, thank you for your advice believe me im going to stick with it i hope it works...
pope. every time i post your right there with some smart remark. get over it, shes here and she is perfect . i dont know why you hold this resentment or something twards me or my posting but this is just crazy that even now just because you dont approve of where i buy my pups from your going to constantly put me down and the choices i choose ? the things she has is common puppy things the vet siad, but yes she was under fed and again the vet said it could be many things, she had a large liter and they all probably had to fight for the food so some didnt get as much as others. i wanted this breed of dog and i did research temperments and other things i should know about a maltese and a bichon. there are a few differnt mixes ive wanted for awhile now, they are just so hard to find where i live or when you do find them they are 900+ and i wont spend that on a mixed dog or even a pure bred.